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you are obviously not caring to pay attention -- ID laws do more than just require IDs moondog Send a noteboard - 06/11/2014 09:37:32 PM

so let's recap what these ID laws do in various states, since you are unwilling to do the research yourself:

-- eliminate early voting, especially on Sundays: Black churches typically rent vans and buses and bring their congregations to the early voting polls on Sundays. other churches and similar religious groups do not. therefore, restricting early voting to non-Sundays limits the ability of Black churches to participate. yes, the alternative is to try to get people together to vote on any of the other early days, but some states like Ohio and North Carolina have eliminated all but one weekend of early voting.

-- restrict the types of ID which are valid: in Texas, your concealed carry permit is a valid ID for voting, but your student photo ID is not, even if it was issued by a TX school. not only that, but if you don't have the correct ID when you vote, you are limited to a three day window to return to the county clerk office to prove you had the correct ID on election day, otherwise your vote doesn't count.

-- restrict the ways you can get a valid ID: in Wisconsin, you have to provide an official copy of your birth certificate and Social Security card to be issued a new ID. if you don't live in Milwaukee or Madison, your DMV options are open only once per week for a maximum of four hours.

in Texas, some married women are required to put their maiden name as their middle name on their driver's license. when they bring their ID to vote, if their name does not match the voter list because of this, they are not allowed to vote.

All of this is beside the point the real takeaway from all of these restrictions on voting is that republicans know they can't win on their ideas because they don't have any. their only chance to keep winning is to prevent people who might vote democrat from being able to vote in any election. but don't take my word for it, listen to your own people say why these laws are worth pursuing:

“If it hurts a bunch of lazy blacks… so be it,” Yelton said. “The law is going to kick the Democrats in the butt.” -- Don Yelton, republican activist http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/10/24/north-carolina-yelton-resigns/3184993/

"Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done,” [Mike] Turzai said to a republican state committee meeting http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77811.html

Franklin County (Columbus) GOP Chair Doug Preisse: “I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban—read African-American—voter-turnout machine.” http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/08/19/fight-over-poll-hours-isnt-just-political.html

"There is only one motivation for imposing burdens on voting that are ostensibly designed to discourage voter-impersonation fraud, and that is to discourage voting by persons likely to vote against the party responsible for imposing the burdens." Judge Richard Posner http://bradblog.com/Docs/JudgePosnerDissent_PhotoID_WI_101014.pdf

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can you explain what that ad is about ? - 05/11/2014 06:25:09 AM 525 Views
it refers to voter registration and IDs - 05/11/2014 08:02:46 AM 544 Views
you summed it up quite nicely, thanks - 05/11/2014 05:15:39 PM 463 Views
Oh please. - 05/11/2014 09:51:32 PM 635 Views
only one party specifically mentions keeping "the wrong people" from voting, though - 05/11/2014 10:10:43 PM 494 Views
What a load of crap - 07/11/2014 04:20:38 AM 486 Views
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he is refering to all the political ads on tv *NM* - 05/11/2014 05:42:37 PM 223 Views
Who doesn't have to identify themselves? Totally serious. - 05/11/2014 09:40:41 PM 576 Views
the point of ID laws is solely to restrict the votes of specific groups - 05/11/2014 10:07:00 PM 476 Views
Rhode Island's voter ID law was sponsored by a black legislator - 06/11/2014 11:30:57 AM 474 Views
you are obviously not caring to pay attention -- ID laws do more than just require IDs - 06/11/2014 09:37:32 PM 483 Views
You cannot be this much of an idiot. - 07/11/2014 03:40:02 AM 524 Views
Rhode Island's voter ID law was sponsored by a black legislator - 06/11/2014 11:30:58 AM 462 Views
Black people don't have photo ID? Why? - 06/11/2014 05:09:39 PM 489 Views
North Carolina's law forbids student IDs as valid form of ID and does not recognize other state IDs - 06/11/2014 09:41:52 PM 464 Views
Why should out of state college students vote in local elections? - 06/11/2014 10:35:13 PM 481 Views
Re: Why should out of state college students vote in local elections? - 07/11/2014 03:41:36 AM 561 Views
Students are not residents, they are guest - 07/11/2014 04:14:11 AM 547 Views
Re: Students are not residents, they are guest - 07/11/2014 02:33:43 PM 595 Views
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Are you fucking stupid or what? - 20/11/2014 02:52:24 AM 599 Views
please stop with the stupid comparisons of student ID to gun permits - 07/11/2014 04:07:16 AM 500 Views
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mutiple surgries and dozen of trips to er. sounds like she is getting care *NM* - 05/11/2014 05:44:39 PM 233 Views
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