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no, simply stating the truth as given by the GOP legislators who enacted the laws moondog Send a noteboard - 13/11/2014 12:11:14 AM

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there is no question that specific demographics favor specific party ideologies,


But Republicans are Evil, so anything that favors their ideologies are automatically wrong and underhanded.

when it comes to denying the right to vote, yes you are 100% correct here.



but there is also no question that it's only republican politicians pushing voter ID laws designed to suppress the votes of democratic voters. there are absolutely zero democratic controlled states where similar ID laws are either proposed or enacted.

That's like saying there are exactly zero fraternities whose members worry about getting raped on campus. It's like saying, "Senator Neary could not be bothered to stick around for the hearings on Michael Corleone. Obviously this Mafia thing is just a myth... And, hey! The government's star witness refused to testify against Don Corleone, even with his brother there to watch him, from his place beside Don Corleone! Obviously they had no case! It was all just a scam to discriminate against Sicilians." (I'm sorry if that went over your head. I don't know enough Tyler Perry movies to find an example you might get)


actually, it's like saying republican controlled state houses are restricting the right to vote specifically to control the demographics which overwhelmingly vote democratic. if you want to equate real life with a Hollywood script, you are more than welcome to. i know that reality denial is part and parcel in today's conservative movement, so it's no surprise you would reach to fiction to try to pretend you understand what's happening.



All that suggests is that Democrats are unconcerned about possible voter fraud. It could mean they are stupid, it could mean they are naive, it could mean they are right, or it COULD mean, they rely on voter fraud to win elections. This fact you cite is an indictment of the Democratic party if anything, but you are so stupidly blinkered and incapable of rational assessment or objectivity, that all you can think is that if no Democrat supports it, it must not be valid, right or necessary.

i don't deny that both parties rely on some amount of vote fraud to win elections. the problem being that both parties typically rely on manipulating the vote count after the fact, but only the republicans believe that in-person voter fraud is a real thing. it could be that the republicans are naive, or it could mean they are stupid, or it COULD mean, they rely on voter suppression to win elections. the vitriol you spew is an indictment of your inability to acknowledge reality, but you are so stupidly blinkered and incapable of rational assessment or objectivity, that all you can think is that if republicans say the sky is green, then the sky must be green. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia. (i'm sorry if that went over your head, i don't know enough "Curious George" books to find an example you might get)



And you don't think there's something odd about one, and only one, party's "base voters" being so irresponsible, socially out of touch or of suspect behavior that requirement for a simple, basic identification is a hardship? For crap's sakes, I have not seen one thing in this thread that suggests voting is being made as difficult as buying a pack of cigarettes or a bottle of alcohol!

actually, the Texas law is so restrictive that a lot of republican voters gave up as well. good job, shooting yourself in the foot in order to spite the other side. and in fact, it's entirely easier to buy cigarettes and alcohol as many stores will accept any valid form of ID which proves your age, and not just a restricted list which favors one political ideology over another.

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