What guy wouldn't be weirded out by the notion of having his dick lopped off? Which to my mind just reinforces the notion that Jenner obviously really should do it because that's a high hurdle to overcome. If she still wants to it's her life and I think we should respect her choice. As I said, I think that legally there need to be limits on when she can use the ladies' room (after surgery only). However, just because you're weirded out by it doesn't mean you want to keep Jenner from being able to do it, does it?
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
This message last edited by Tom on 08/06/2015 at 10:37:55 PM
Can liberals all stop their posturing about adhering to science?
- 05/06/2015 12:04:13 AM
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It's not really a difficult concept to understand, man
- 05/06/2015 02:23:34 PM
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Some people feel like they are women, though born as men. So they take steps to live
- 05/06/2015 04:47:14 PM
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The issue is science, and you respond with ...feelings? The point called, and it misses you too.
- 05/06/2015 09:31:09 PM
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Are you seriously claiming your post is motivated by science?
- 05/06/2015 10:39:01 PM
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No, by hypocrites citing science as a trump card when it suits them & ignoring it on other issues
- 06/06/2015 12:33:53 AM
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If you want to accuse liberals of ignoring science there so many better examples
- 09/06/2015 04:35:58 PM
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I agree with you in theory
- 05/06/2015 09:43:43 PM
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I think it's okay to be weirded out by it
- 08/06/2015 10:28:02 PM
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gender issues aside the evidence of evolution is undeniable to the extreme
- 05/06/2015 08:37:37 PM
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Well then why do scientists feel the need to make up their own fake evidence?
- 05/06/2015 09:16:40 PM
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The specifics and our understanding always changes
- 05/06/2015 09:50:39 PM
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"A better fit" doesn't sound much like testable hypotheses and observable data
- 06/06/2015 12:38:49 AM
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Science and absolute, unquestioned fact...
- 06/06/2015 11:16:10 AM
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The theory is refined that is all
- 08/06/2015 07:11:40 PM
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Refined is probably a better word for it (though some can be overturned)
- 09/06/2015 08:47:22 AM
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We can find Naederthal DNA in modern humans
- 08/06/2015 07:01:01 PM
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We share 1/3 of the DNA of flowers. Where are those in our ancestral tree?
- 09/06/2015 02:20:46 PM
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Americas (Christian?!) "accepted religious standards" can and have been changed to vindicate robbers
- 15/06/2015 03:37:12 AM
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So? My point is that liberals would not allow you to teach that in a public school
- 15/06/2015 01:43:43 PM
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Liberals consistently teach that in schools, despite conservatives calling it “revisionist history”
- 17/06/2015 10:00:48 AM
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The problem with the "there can not spontanous life" argument is
- 15/06/2015 02:29:06 PM
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"when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"
- 17/06/2015 10:02:00 AM
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will since omnipotent beings are ut side the realm of the possible we can eliminate that
- 17/06/2015 05:45:36 PM
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Who says omnipotent beings are outside the realm of possibility?
- 20/06/2015 03:59:44 AM
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You can always find unaswered question in science but that gives no weight to religion
- 22/06/2015 01:52:25 PM
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...I'm confused, are you claiming that no real fossils have been found?
- 07/06/2015 02:41:12 PM
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And they prove what, exactly?
- 07/06/2015 11:24:43 PM
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Er, well yeah, that's the point- Scientific knowledge keeps growing and challenging itself
- 08/06/2015 02:58:26 PM
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It's not at all the same.
- 09/06/2015 02:53:06 PM
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Dude, you're monologuing like a supervillain and going off on insane tangents.
- 09/06/2015 03:27:37 PM
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In fact, fossils are not even necessary sometimes -- we can see it over the course of generations
- 08/06/2015 09:06:23 PM
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That's not evolution, idiot.
- 09/06/2015 02:31:27 PM
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um, that's actually EXACTLY how natural selection works, thanks for arguing my point so nicely
- 10/06/2015 12:19:32 AM
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They're not changing. Same species, same characteristics. We're just finding different proportions.
- 13/06/2015 05:35:09 PM
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"It's not like they are going to run into difficulties later in life"? Seriously?
- 15/06/2015 03:36:42 AM
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Re: "It's not like they are going to run into difficulties later in life"? Seriously?
- 15/06/2015 02:23:36 PM
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I would not have expected to see you adhere to a scientist position
- 07/06/2015 03:06:11 AM
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I am not; I am criticizing the people who apply it inconsistently
- 07/06/2015 11:14:05 PM
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You are confusing science and scientism
- 08/06/2015 10:15:57 PM
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For what it is worth, I have encountered many people who satisfy those stated "scientism" criteria
- 15/06/2015 03:37:36 AM
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can republicans stop their posturing about adhering to morality?
- 08/06/2015 09:17:16 PM
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My own homosexual inclinations would not constitute hypocrisy in opposing deviant behavior
- 09/06/2015 02:14:56 PM
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at least you're finally open about your homosexual attraction to the former Bruce Jenner... 
- 10/06/2015 12:05:10 AM
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- 10/06/2015 12:05:10 AM
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"… in the latter times some shall depart from the faith… speaking lies in hypocrisy…"
- 15/06/2015 03:36:08 AM
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Good luck with that; (at least) two beloved long time RAFOlk are post-medically transgendered
- 15/06/2015 03:34:33 AM
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I find this entire discussion absolutely hilarious.
- 15/06/2015 04:19:31 PM
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well I am sucb a died in the wool liberal I just cant help myself
- 15/06/2015 06:25:57 PM
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...what? Attacking points is pretty much what debate IS.
- 16/06/2015 04:29:05 AM
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No...
- 17/06/2015 08:00:57 PM
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OK?
- 18/06/2015 04:03:32 AM
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Oh, I'm sorry.
- 18/06/2015 09:05:42 PM
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A thesis delayed till the SECOND paragraph is, at best, misplaced
- 20/06/2015 09:37:36 AM
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Bah, damn you for good points!
- 21/06/2015 09:33:49 PM
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The really fun part is when grammatical gender doesn't match the sex even for humans.
- 22/06/2015 10:30:33 PM
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"Mädchen" was my initial reference, changed because I think Spanish more accessible to Americans 
- 24/06/2015 04:42:37 AM
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- 24/06/2015 04:42:37 AM
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Re: Oh, I'm sorry.
- 20/06/2015 04:44:24 PM
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You're missing my whole issue with labeling.
- 21/06/2015 09:32:36 PM
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Had this post been the thread-starter it would have drawn far fewer complaints
- 24/06/2015 04:41:06 AM
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The sheer brazenness of the "calling bigots 'bigots' is offensive" "defense" continually amazes me
- 20/06/2015 04:03:46 AM
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This might be a complete non-sequitur, but...
- 21/06/2015 10:38:19 PM
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