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Why on earth would you want to let Turkey in? Tom Send a noteboard - 03/10/2009 04:05:24 PM
Culturally, confessionally and politically it is not European. Not even remotely. Other than a tiny strip of land that should never have been left to Turkey in the first place (I'm talking at the end of World War I), it isn't even geographically IN Europe.

How the EU can even consider inviting in a nation that brutally kills Kurds, keeps them from being able to speak their own language and hasn't even admitted to killing millions of Armenians in the first genocide of the Twentieth Century is beyond me. The nation is a military dictatorship because it would be an Islamist theocracy if it weren't. Secularism is being eroded in society.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Ireland accepts Lisbon Treaty Legolas - 03/10/2009 02:09:29 PM 1292 Views
A sad sad day for europe Wibble - 03/10/2009 02:13:53 PM 749 Views
Please tell me you didn't vote UKIP at least. Legolas - 03/10/2009 02:21:38 PM 756 Views
I've voted for them before yes. Wibble - 03/10/2009 02:28:31 PM 785 Views
Sigh. Legolas - 03/10/2009 02:46:27 PM 829 Views
United States of Europe! Here we come. Rebekah - 03/10/2009 02:25:16 PM 796 Views
Let's hope you won't, because you most certainly would vote no. Legolas - 03/10/2009 02:27:48 PM 751 Views
We don't get a vote, because we would not say the right thing. So fuck democracy. Wibble - 03/10/2009 02:29:25 PM 683 Views
So I've just found out on Wikipedia. Craziness. *NM* Rebekah - 03/10/2009 02:31:04 PM 408 Views
Please explain this to me Danu - 03/10/2009 11:04:32 PM 635 Views
Yes, that's obviously it... Geoff - 04/10/2009 12:57:39 AM 1023 Views
Why does Tim think No is the right choice? Danu - 03/10/2009 11:02:53 PM 703 Views
She never said that Floffe - 03/10/2009 11:22:43 PM 793 Views
Okay, why? Danu - 04/10/2009 12:05:43 AM 651 Views
Hehe Rebekah - 04/10/2009 10:06:40 AM 691 Views
I'm not sure this is an entirely fair analysis. Werthead - 03/10/2009 09:18:31 PM 675 Views
Sort of. Inigo Montoya - 04/10/2009 02:19:56 AM 784 Views
What would you say is the most important effect and/or overall significance of the treaty? *NM* Burr - 03/10/2009 02:30:29 PM 306 Views
Mostly making the EU less unwieldy. Legolas - 03/10/2009 02:37:06 PM 704 Views
Thanks! *NM* Burr - 03/10/2009 02:42:04 PM 319 Views
Why on earth would you want to let Turkey in? Tom - 03/10/2009 04:05:24 PM 766 Views
Several reasons. Legolas - 03/10/2009 04:41:59 PM 842 Views
There are a few others. Werthead - 03/10/2009 09:03:40 PM 685 Views
I'm sorry, but I don't really see a lot of progress Tom - 04/10/2009 03:16:42 AM 663 Views
Then you aren't looking hard enough. Legolas - 04/10/2009 07:20:39 AM 857 Views
It's the old carrot-on-a-stick technique. Tim - 04/10/2009 12:34:08 PM 685 Views
AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *NM* ßelals Girl - 03/10/2009 06:15:56 PM 337 Views
What? You're a Eurosceptic American? *NM* Legolas - 03/10/2009 09:14:56 PM 314 Views
It also puts David Cameron in a difficult position Werthead - 03/10/2009 09:11:41 PM 741 Views
Good point. Legolas - 03/10/2009 09:28:03 PM 764 Views
Re: Good point. Werthead - 03/10/2009 09:47:58 PM 776 Views
I'm torn and I have some questions Danu - 03/10/2009 10:53:40 PM 871 Views
Re: I'm torn and I have some questions Legolas - 04/10/2009 07:45:35 AM 838 Views
hallelujah! Stephen - 04/10/2009 09:49:39 PM 773 Views
Indeed. Elaine - 05/10/2009 02:00:29 PM 733 Views
I am pleased by this. Here is hoping for an effective elected leader. The Shrike - 05/10/2009 03:20:36 PM 717 Views
Yeah, that's true... Legolas - 05/10/2009 03:42:29 PM 696 Views
So the European parliament will not elect the leader? The Shrike - 05/10/2009 05:08:25 PM 715 Views
Er, that's news to me... but let's look it up. Legolas - 05/10/2009 05:14:09 PM 684 Views
I would have rejected any treaty that would not let me elect a representative or The Shrike - 05/10/2009 06:14:46 PM 706 Views
Honestly, that would never be on the table. Legolas - 05/10/2009 06:37:25 PM 680 Views
So would most of europe. Wibble - 05/10/2009 07:22:41 PM 687 Views
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