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Why on earth would you want to let Turkey in? Tom Send a noteboard - 03/10/2009 04:05:24 PM
Culturally, confessionally and politically it is not European. Not even remotely. Other than a tiny strip of land that should never have been left to Turkey in the first place (I'm talking at the end of World War I), it isn't even geographically IN Europe.

How the EU can even consider inviting in a nation that brutally kills Kurds, keeps them from being able to speak their own language and hasn't even admitted to killing millions of Armenians in the first genocide of the Twentieth Century is beyond me. The nation is a military dictatorship because it would be an Islamist theocracy if it weren't. Secularism is being eroded in society.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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