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I somehow have my doubts about her gaining all that many Republican votes. Legolas Send a noteboard - 01/08/2016 11:11:20 PM

View original postWe have never run one candidate as disliked and distrusted as these two much less a pair so I have no idea what is going to happen. Trump keeps doing things that make the idea of him being POTUS seem like the worst idea ever then I listen to Hillary speak and look at her record and I can't see how she wins. Almost 70% of the country find her untrustworthy and about the same think his temperament is ill suited for the job and don't believe he says he can do.

Yeah, it's a pretty remarkable election that way... frankly I'm surprising Johnson is not getting more traction. He seems to get 5 or 10 percent in some state polls, that can be more than enough to be decisive, but still not as much as you'd expect. Perhaps in time.
View original postMost people I know are looking for who will do the least harm. The Supreme Court is the real prize and most conservatives are willing to bet Trump will be too ineffective to do real harm while Hillary keeps run to her left to win Bernie supporters. Her running to her left shows how inept the Clinton machine has become. Bernie supporters are not traditional liberals so she won't win them that way while pivoting to the right would make it easier for the never Trump people to hold their nose and vote for her.

In principle of course the game is always the same, swing out to the wing in the primaries and then back to the centre for the general election. But the generally low turn-out in American elections always complicates that a little, and definitely this time... Clinton absolutely does risk losing Bernie supporters to either a third party candidate or to not showing up at all, especially among young voters who overwhelmingly back Bernie but aren't as likely to vote for a candidate they don't much like. And she might figure, with some justification, that she'll get Never Trump votes even as it stands, while courting Republicans even more openly than she's already doing would hurt her even more on the left.

But it's a good point on the Supreme Court, that's just about the only thing on which I figure Trump would have a relatively straightforward conservative policy, since it's too boring and offers too little opportunities for self-aggrandizement for him to care much either way. And if on top of that you reckon that America is made fun of abroad even when electing a comparatively competent Republican president like GW Bush, I suppose you could ask yourself what the harm is in electing a complete buffoon without any principles apart from egoism. But still.

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