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Re: Oh. TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 20/10/2009 01:47:33 PM
I wasn't aware he was late and unprepared because he was giving birth at the time of the presentation.

Thats because you're a horrible sexist
Have you never seen the film Junior?
So his ego was more important to him than his obligation? But that same ego wouldn't prevent him from expecting/accepting that his company lower their expectations of him and hold him to a lower standard than the rest of their employees?

Most people (men in particular if you believe some of the vocal women who blame male bankers for the recession) are quite proud, and there is a difference between accepting and expecting to take a back seat during a stressful period. The company might well have offered him such a role, or he refused to take paternity leave, in which case it's clearly an unavoidable situation.
Of course all I was basing my comments on was what was written in the OP, if he's been taking holidays to the caribbean and stealing office supplies then thats another matter.

It could be if his "mistake" had consequences for the company beyond what they were willing to accept.

Then in my humble oppinion he shouldn't have been put in a position to make those mistakes, if he's there by his own choice then of course it's his fault, as I said, we dont know enough details to give a full analysis, I'm simply going on what was written.

Come to the dark side, We have candy!

I'm Israel, he's Palestine, its more fun when you pick sides.
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"coming down from ON high" is the proper expression Tom - 19/10/2009 09:46:41 PM 658 Views
Thank you. I did not know that. *NM* The Secret Lurker - 20/10/2009 01:38:46 AM 236 Views
...does that matter if he didn't do his job, and that had negative consequences for the company? *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 19/10/2009 06:28:03 PM 256 Views
As long as its ok for people to sack women who get pregnant TheCrownless - 19/10/2009 07:59:58 PM 612 Views
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Thats not at all what I'm saying TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 12:40:28 AM 615 Views
Lots of assumptions. Antigone - 20/10/2009 01:54:02 AM 565 Views
Like I said... assumptions TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 01:40:23 PM 670 Views
Can you work and give birth at the same time? TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 12:27:45 AM 639 Views
Oh. Sareitha Sedai - 20/10/2009 01:32:59 PM 628 Views
Re: Oh. TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 01:47:33 PM 643 Views
LOL Sareitha Sedai - 20/10/2009 01:51:34 PM 563 Views
I hadn't read that, it was posted after I commented TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 10:49:19 PM 575 Views
I agree. Companies aren't charities. Tom - 19/10/2009 09:47:43 PM 581 Views
So you're against maternity pay? TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 12:29:07 AM 630 Views
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Same with my job... Antigone - 20/10/2009 01:56:00 AM 580 Views
And nobody gets special treatment. *NM* Tashmere - 22/10/2009 01:16:13 AM 240 Views
Thats just one of the variations of maternity leave I was suggesting. TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 01:50:11 PM 594 Views
But that's what I was addressing when I talked about his choice. Sareitha Sedai - 20/10/2009 01:54:30 PM 581 Views
That's why it's an employer and not a social worker... Antigone - 20/10/2009 09:58:00 PM 632 Views
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Had that happen to me. TaskmasterJack - 19/10/2009 04:15:45 PM 623 Views
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