Greenland was much less icy back in the days when it was first settled.
Tom Send a noteboard - 24/11/2009 02:29:50 PM
Eirik the Red may have called it "Greenland" to fool people into going out there, but the evidence shows that it was warmer in the Mediaeval Warm Period than it is today.
In fact, I quote from Wikipedia:
What is verifiable is that the ice cores indicate Greenland has experienced dramatic temperature shifts many times over the past 100,000 years — which makes it possible to say that areas of Greenland may have been much warmer during the medieval period than they are now and that the ice sheet contracted significantly.
The fact that Greenland's ice sheet is in decline again is evidence that the world is warming, but the question is whether or not mankind is responsible for most or all of that warming and whether or not the trend is a fluctuating one or a linear progression.
In fact, I quote from Wikipedia:
What is verifiable is that the ice cores indicate Greenland has experienced dramatic temperature shifts many times over the past 100,000 years — which makes it possible to say that areas of Greenland may have been much warmer during the medieval period than they are now and that the ice sheet contracted significantly.
The fact that Greenland's ice sheet is in decline again is evidence that the world is warming, but the question is whether or not mankind is responsible for most or all of that warming and whether or not the trend is a fluctuating one or a linear progression.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
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ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
No, I am sure global warming is just a myth. </sarcasm>
24/11/2009 01:23:50 PM
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That ice is not melting - everyone knows temperatures aren't going up.
24/11/2009 01:30:12 PM
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While I believe that the climate is changing
24/11/2009 02:10:53 PM
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You never deviate from serious and exact wording in your private e-mails? *NM*
24/11/2009 02:21:22 PM
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Climategate is a big scandal.....very damaging to the AGW kool-aid drinkers.
24/11/2009 03:53:27 PM
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Greenland was much less icy back in the days when it was first settled.
24/11/2009 02:29:50 PM
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Bingo - global temp goes up and down via variables way too complicated to know.....
24/11/2009 03:44:38 PM
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No one seriously argues against climate change. The myth is called the greenhouse effect
24/11/2009 02:31:30 PM
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Yes they do. Well, depending how seriously you take trzaska2000 and others of his ilk...
24/11/2009 02:53:33 PM
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I believe copy-right was aiming a bit higher than a specific person. You're not supposed to do that
24/11/2009 03:17:31 PM
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But I was just using him as an example - to show that some people who think global warming a myth
24/11/2009 03:27:13 PM
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I am not as crazy as Joel!!!
24/11/2009 03:48:33 PM
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That may be the first time I've seen an ad hominem against someone not present.
24/11/2009 06:13:29 PM
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trzaska is way beyond joel on the madness-meter.
24/11/2009 03:53:09 PM
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Please explain.....
24/11/2009 03:56:51 PM
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bull you're middle of the road.
24/11/2009 06:11:52 PM
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Define "middle of the road" then..... *NM*
24/11/2009 06:25:59 PM
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About a hundred meters to the left of you. *NM*
24/11/2009 06:59:49 PM
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I'd agree that you're middle of the road as far as policy goes...
24/11/2009 08:10:59 PM
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I never said anyone is crazy. That is up to individual rafonauts' doctors. *NM*
24/11/2009 04:02:43 PM
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You did open a helluva can of worms though, deliberately or not.
24/11/2009 06:10:57 PM
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I was ridiculing myself for pointing to you at that earlier post a few days ago *NM*
24/11/2009 06:22:04 PM
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Re: You're not supposed to do that
24/11/2009 06:14:58 PM
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I submit myself to your punishment
24/11/2009 06:24:26 PM
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For the record, I'm sorry I got so huffy over something I was fairly sure you didn't mean seriously.
25/11/2009 12:28:46 PM
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The greenhouse effect without with the global average temperature would be in the ballpark of -15C?
24/11/2009 03:24:40 PM
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Re: No one seriously argues against climate change. The myth is called the greenhouse effect
24/11/2009 06:09:20 PM
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Temperature down while CO2 increases for 11 years and counting, no can't be true....
24/11/2009 03:41:41 PM
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Re: Temperature down while CO2 increases for 11 years and counting, no can't be true....
24/11/2009 03:51:46 PM
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This was already throughly rebutted in your prior post. and you are still trying it? Sheesh! *NM*
25/11/2009 05:12:19 PM
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Temp is down since 1998.....this is a fact.....sorry.
25/11/2009 05:19:07 PM
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Again, this was ALREADY ADDRESSED in your prior post. Saying it over and over won't make it true. *NM*
28/11/2009 04:18:30 AM
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Funny how when they get caught cooking the numbers you libbers just make jokes.
26/11/2009 06:37:26 PM
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