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Ah, snoopcester Send a noteboard - 29/01/2010 02:51:22 PM
but more about not providing enough information.

From what I know, the UK is better at this than most places.

But I also know that in many countries they don't tell women, for example, that they might feel guilty afterwards. They don't tell them the emotional consequences.

Full information should include this too.


I agree with that. To give well rounded advice, they should give that.

On a related topic, have you seen the fuss about Ireland? I haven't had time to read up on it more but if the accusations are true, then it is really shocking.
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Anti-Abortion CBS Super Bowl commercial lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:35:37 PM 2138 Views
I think that its a fantastic idea... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 05:46:17 PM 1576 Views
agreed... somewhat. lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM 1518 Views
See, that's the debate here... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:03:01 PM 1223 Views
depending on the developmental stage, an embryo might be nothign more than a clump of cells. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:18:25 PM 1230 Views
You make baby Allah cry. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 672 Views
was it the dog comparison? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:59:22 PM 1338 Views
Nah, Dog is God reversed, after all. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:29:12 PM 1223 Views
parasites! parasites i say!!! LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:37:53 PM 1267 Views
yeah except islam allows abortion in certain conditions Aisha - 28/01/2010 05:43:29 AM 1263 Views
Do those conditions include "I don't want a baby"? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:52:24 PM 1562 Views
some scholars say yes, some say no Aisha - 29/01/2010 05:51:18 AM 1381 Views
Shall we be technical.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:28:20 PM 1248 Views
And since when are you a trained eye? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:52:05 PM 1399 Views
A valid question Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:07:16 PM 1119 Views
Okay then, that's fair enough LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:48:10 PM 1257 Views
If there's a chance the mother might die... LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:30:54 PM 1232 Views
What if the "real" preson is an asshole? I'd gamble on the baby who has the potential to not be. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:44:57 PM 1307 Views
I wasn't commenting on the commercial, I did that further below. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:59:17 PM 1251 Views
Which is why I'm against elective abortion Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:33:59 PM 1336 Views
Then we are in accord. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:00:32 PM 1276 Views
That works.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:10:22 PM 1278 Views
And I think that is wonderful. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:33:05 PM 1388 Views
I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:21:02 PM 1401 Views
Re: I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad lil lady - 27/01/2010 06:35:30 PM 1436 Views
Go ahead and pay for one.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:37:18 PM 1468 Views
beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 07:01:59 PM 1403 Views
at your Jeordam - 27/01/2010 07:03:39 PM 1261 Views
how does atheism take anything away? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:20:49 PM 1299 Views
Exactly Brian - 27/01/2010 07:29:49 PM 1114 Views
Smiles.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:38:25 PM 1339 Views
just because you believe in god LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:57:39 PM 1183 Views
losing, not loosing *NM* Brian - 27/01/2010 10:22:51 PM 686 Views
Re: Smiles.... lyringlas - 29/01/2010 09:03:48 PM 1280 Views
LOL It only "takes away" mental enslavement. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:50:56 PM 1298 Views
Who says? Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:42:07 PM 1268 Views
You're not "open" to anything. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 10:02:03 PM 1381 Views
I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM 1374 Views
Personally speaking Brian - 27/01/2010 10:36:45 PM 1164 Views
Although off topic that's exactly how I see it too. *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 10:43:49 PM 681 Views
But notice your perspective Brian... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 11:08:52 PM 1414 Views
Your argument assumes in the existance of the Christian God. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:28:16 PM 1331 Views
Because we're His children beckstcw - 28/01/2010 01:08:20 AM 1360 Views
My perspective as someone who is for the most part an Atheist? Brian - 28/01/2010 01:13:02 AM 1197 Views
You have a very odd and self-serving notion of what "open" is. LiterateDog - 28/01/2010 12:12:06 AM 4615 Views
Tolerance much? snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:11:12 PM 1430 Views
I took care of that. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:33:18 PM 1361 Views
Don't read an emotion into that I didn't put into it. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:44:37 PM 1119 Views
Oh, well there are examples. Google those ads I mentioned beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 11:24:10 PM 1108 Views
all athesim means is not believing in deities 9_9 LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:30:37 PM 1151 Views
Your comment is rude and narrow minded. Regardless of what emotion you feel snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:20:11 PM 1198 Views
Fortunately, positivity doesn't appear to be the qualifying characteristic Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:26:28 PM 1318 Views
Well there is a difference between... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM 1498 Views
The fact is that it was a positive message, whether you agreed with it or not. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 1256 Views
Says the Protestant. Ghavrel - 27/01/2010 11:22:05 PM 1257 Views
What is the UCC? *NM* Tashmere - 29/01/2010 02:59:07 AM 697 Views
United Church of Christ Sareitha Sedai - 29/01/2010 02:24:11 PM 1166 Views
I don't think it is the same thing random thoughts - 27/01/2010 07:17:19 PM 1226 Views
I wasn't making an argument- just that it'd be interesting beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 08:11:57 PM 1120 Views
that I can agree with random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:27:30 PM 1131 Views
Re: I think that its a fantastic idea... callandor1000 - 28/01/2010 03:36:11 AM 1308 Views
Followed by an add of all the babies that should have been aborted? *NM* Helene - 29/01/2010 05:53:43 PM 664 Views
Hey whatever they want to pay for PhoenixReborn - 27/01/2010 05:52:11 PM 1342 Views
Hahahaha... I couldn't care less, but this line cracked me up beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:19:37 PM 1313 Views
wow...I didn't even think of that... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:39:04 PM 1327 Views
Heh. *NM* Tashmere - 28/01/2010 10:43:43 PM 687 Views
I think they need to treat all sides the same random thoughts - 27/01/2010 06:49:47 PM 1316 Views
agreed *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 07:15:48 PM 689 Views
this. *NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:33:01 AM 589 Views
whether you agree with Tebow or not... damookster - 27/01/2010 06:51:58 PM 1220 Views
I don't think there'd be a problem if it wasn't the Super Bowl LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:35:18 PM 1332 Views
The problem is the hyprocrisy of CBS. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:56:58 PM 1463 Views
Bingo. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 952 Views
And they claim this is the result of you liberal types pissing and moaning. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:40:57 PM 1289 Views
Yeah, I'm sure that's it. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:44:26 PM 1104 Views
"the buggery agenda" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:47:28 PM 1352 Views
I know, I loved it! I might start using that instead of Fagenda. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 09:03:53 PM 675 Views
You might need to rework titles too. "Most Buggered", "Her Buggerness" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:06:44 PM 1460 Views
this commercial is only a big deal to those Hobgoblin - 27/01/2010 07:59:27 PM 1329 Views
I really, really hope a pro-choice group buys the next ad space snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:09:16 PM 1237 Views
Replace Hitler with Ben Affleck and I'd help pay for it. Brian - 27/01/2010 08:12:25 PM 1190 Views
that's funny enough it'd pay for itself LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:13:31 PM 1281 Views
That would work also. The main thing is to pick someone who has committed crimes against humanity snoopcester - 28/01/2010 10:57:28 AM 1060 Views
But how would you folks argue on the internet then? I'd still have Stalin... *NM* Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:49:17 PM 660 Views
I'm sure people could think of something *NM* LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:00:23 PM 545 Views
LMAO! that would be awesome *NM* Aisha - 28/01/2010 12:02:25 AM 694 Views
The funny thing is Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:28:22 PM 1529 Views
Oh no you di'in't! Tigr - 27/01/2010 08:54:47 PM 1049 Views
I had a similar thought... TaskmasterJack - 27/01/2010 10:17:15 PM 1307 Views
*NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:12:46 AM 627 Views
*brain explodes* Joel - 27/01/2010 08:30:51 PM 1091 Views
are your sinuses clear now? *NM* random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:54:18 PM 639 Views
Oddly enough, they aren't. Joel - 27/01/2010 08:59:27 PM 1370 Views
thats what you get for living in the hill country random thoughts - 27/01/2010 09:10:09 PM 1054 Views
Not my idea, and I'm working on it. Joel - 28/01/2010 12:36:17 AM 1238 Views
the super bowl is no place for political messages, no matter how thinly veiled. moondog - 28/01/2010 05:15:13 AM 1154 Views
Are you saying that CBS should be required to run an opposing ad? *NM* beckstcw - 28/01/2010 05:19:39 AM 638 Views
if they are going to approve a political message, they should be required to air the opposite view moondog - 28/01/2010 05:27:33 AM 988 Views
I'm pretty strongly pro-choice and even I find that silly. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/01/2010 06:55:37 AM 705 Views
What kind of ad would they run in response? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:50:10 PM 1255 Views
more like.... moondog - 29/01/2010 03:20:24 AM 1460 Views
The problem with Pro-Choice is... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 02:12:13 PM 1224 Views
Not really a fair comment snoopcester - 28/01/2010 02:44:21 PM 1164 Views
Re: Not really a fair comment Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:27:03 PM 1204 Views
I can't see Youtube at work and am out the next couple of nights so I can't see it till the weekend snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:36:48 PM 1019 Views
I know you were going to tell me that it was slanted... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:57:37 PM 1277 Views
That is unfair on me snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:18:07 PM 1357 Views
Sorry...wasn't trying to be unfair.... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:34:18 PM 1225 Views
Apology accepted snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:52:39 PM 1071 Views
...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Floffe - 28/01/2010 03:46:25 PM 1218 Views
Re: ...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:03:46 PM 1326 Views
An unfortunate choice of words.... Jeordam - 28/01/2010 07:00:18 PM 1054 Views
I don't think it's so much a matter of supplying misleading information, Rebekah - 28/01/2010 11:07:24 PM 1251 Views
Ah, snoopcester - 29/01/2010 02:51:22 PM 1216 Views
No. Rebekah - 29/01/2010 06:10:47 PM 1220 Views
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