you prefer party -- republican party -- over principle pretty much in every political debate i've seen you chime in on. i think i've only seen one of your arguments that didn't come directly from republican talking points, including the current one we're having about how bill clinton was such a failure because the republicans supposedly did everything right during his presidency. clinton was a failure for other reasons, and blaming him for everything you think is wrong with the country is like saying you got in a car accident because the headlights on your car are a bit out of focus.

also, if all you have to debate is to call me a "looney" and "socialist" it's even more evidence that you have no clue what you're talking about.

[Tom] DeLay writes in his book No Retreat, No Surrender:

"[Newt Gingrich] told a room full of reporters that he forced the shutdown because Clinton had rudely made him and Bob Dole sit at the back of Air Force One...Newt had been careless to say such a thing, and now the whole moral tone of the shutdown had been lost. What had been a noble battle for fiscal sanity began to look like the tirade of a spoiled child. The revolution, I can tell you, was never the same."