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as always, i have to disagree moondog Send a noteboard - 18/03/2010 05:30:09 PM
If the majority of news agencies had a right wing bias I would complain about that. I don't listen Rush and about the only Fox News I watch is the Sunday show and sometimes times the pre-prime time stuff. The NYT does have a strong bias and should be challenged for doing so. As for the liberal comment I call a spade a spade. I don't the "I hate those damn conservative rightwingnuts putting labels on me" argument. Liberal is what we call the people in this country who are on the left side of the democratic party and I it is symptomatic of what is wrong with the mindset of liberals that they believe the word is the problem and that it is the conservatives who have given liberalism a bad name.


i never said conservatives gave liberalism a bad name, i said conservatives have made it a dirty word. in other words, calling someone a liberal when it comes from a right-winger is like using racial epithets at <insert minority race here>. you can't deny that conservatives, republicans, etc use it that way because you use it that way yourself. if the conservatives didn't make it that way, who did? i highly doubt the left is going to invent a word to denigrate themselves in the main stream, whatever your revisionist view of it may be.

also, whether or not the NYT has a bias (which every news source does) doesn't mean it's not a credible source of news. i read NYT, fox, WSJ, LA times and i consider all of them worthy news material WHEN THEY ARE ONLY REPORTING A STORY. of course each paper's editorial sections have their own bias but editorials are not news no matter how much some people may wish them to be so...

also also, i have a catch phrase i made up for people who claim to be militant moderates. feel free to use it if it suits you "not just maybe, but HELL MAYBE!"
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If you could ban some words from political discourse, which would you ban? - 13/03/2010 06:35:25 AM 1311 Views
Working Families, Red Hot Go, Silver Bullet - 13/03/2010 06:46:43 AM 535 Views
I'm not sure if you're against labels or just Bob Seger. *NM* - 13/03/2010 05:15:20 PM 281 Views
well, anything to do with the other side. - 13/03/2010 03:41:12 PM 520 Views
Especially concerning their youth and inexperience *NM* - 14/03/2010 11:22:13 AM 305 Views
all of them. - 13/03/2010 04:42:02 PM 553 Views
I'm sure the one-fingered salute would turn up more frequently, then. - 14/03/2010 02:31:34 PM 494 Views
nah, it would just require the radio people to be more creative - 14/03/2010 06:52:29 PM 583 Views
Two: Bipartisan and progressive. - 13/03/2010 05:14:36 PM 516 Views
"progressive" was created to get around the "liberal" label the right uses - 13/03/2010 06:00:40 PM 532 Views
Does the right really have the power to make a word dirty? - 13/03/2010 06:27:46 PM 547 Views
considering that "liberal" has taken the place of "communist" for "something bad" i'd say yes - 13/03/2010 07:07:21 PM 484 Views
There's a flawed premise in there though - 13/03/2010 10:43:58 PM 559 Views
Re: There's a flawed premise in there though - 14/03/2010 09:34:58 AM 596 Views
Re: There's a flawed premise in there though - 14/03/2010 02:56:45 PM 548 Views
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It probably will be down the road - 15/03/2010 04:59:58 PM 625 Views
Good...? - 15/03/2010 09:17:22 PM 670 Views
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Re: Good...? - 29/03/2010 04:15:16 PM 600 Views
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As long as I get top billing. - 03/04/2010 11:54:38 AM 684 Views
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Heh. It's not what you say, it's how you say it. *edit* - 14/03/2010 02:26:12 PM 486 Views
I know, but it's still a bad description. *NM* - 14/03/2010 05:14:26 PM 220 Views
Not CREATED for that purpose, just dusted off for it. - 15/03/2010 07:34:19 AM 489 Views
I woulkd say the left made the word liberal dirty - 15/03/2010 05:15:24 PM 480 Views
it must be a terrible terrible burden on you to have all the answers to everything... *NM* - 15/03/2010 11:08:04 PM 320 Views
just as being stupid must be a burden for you *NM* - 16/03/2010 02:06:43 PM 242 Views
what? no sandy vagina comment? you're slipping.... *NM* - 16/03/2010 02:51:19 PM 275 Views
but you are still boringly predictable - 16/03/2010 03:23:26 PM 455 Views
actually, no it's just you. *NM* - 16/03/2010 11:12:21 PM 256 Views
How's that paranoia treating you? - 16/03/2010 12:53:31 AM 517 Views
how is that head in sand treating you? - 16/03/2010 02:19:54 PM 522 Views
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if all of this is true.... - 16/03/2010 11:17:19 PM 523 Views
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as always, i have to disagree - 18/03/2010 05:30:09 PM 518 Views
unlike the way you use right-winger? - 18/03/2010 06:50:12 PM 1137 Views
*NM* - 14/03/2010 02:25:01 PM 305 Views
Pro-torture *NM* - 13/03/2010 06:27:10 PM 406 Views
I get your point, but it wouldn't work anyway - 13/03/2010 07:20:58 PM 548 Views
transparency - because english politics fricking isn't. *NM* - 13/03/2010 10:11:59 PM 221 Views
none are these days - 13/03/2010 10:23:03 PM 688 Views
hope and change *NM* - 14/03/2010 03:32:34 PM 390 Views
i hope you could change your mind about that *NM* - 14/03/2010 07:35:39 PM 238 Views
bah. - 15/03/2010 12:24:51 AM 738 Views
None, - 15/03/2010 11:08:11 AM 575 Views
Words/phrases that I would abolish: - 15/03/2010 02:41:51 PM 645 Views
Bah. - 15/03/2010 03:05:20 PM 573 Views
Re: Bah. - 15/03/2010 03:11:47 PM 561 Views
Save the puns for damookster! - 15/03/2010 03:15:24 PM 561 Views
ROFL *NM* - 15/03/2010 03:17:07 PM 292 Views
XD *NM* - 15/03/2010 05:51:13 PM 318 Views
Re: Words/phrases that I would abolish: - 15/03/2010 04:27:21 PM 626 Views
Re: Words/phrases that I would abolish: - 15/03/2010 04:48:48 PM 580 Views
Re: Words/phrases that I would abolish: - 15/03/2010 05:32:30 PM 628 Views
I thought we settled that issue long ago here (well, wotmania) - 15/03/2010 04:48:02 PM 467 Views
hahaha *NM* - 15/03/2010 04:50:29 PM 235 Views
leave to a liberal to want to ban words they don't like *NM* - 15/03/2010 05:10:19 PM 262 Views
Re: leave to a liberal to want to ban words they don't like - 15/03/2010 05:38:24 PM 500 Views
That was weak - 15/03/2010 05:48:34 PM 488 Views
at least it mirrored your original comment. *NM* - 15/03/2010 05:53:34 PM 284 Views
to bad it didn't mirror reality - 15/03/2010 08:33:18 PM 446 Views
sure, the right doesn't say "don't say that" - 15/03/2010 11:00:56 PM 462 Views
which terms that the left uses did he suggest removing? - 16/03/2010 03:20:21 PM 519 Views
you misspoke - 16/03/2010 12:36:23 AM 583 Views
that is often true but I don't think it is true now - 16/03/2010 04:12:18 PM 634 Views
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Al Franken is a joke right? - 16/03/2010 10:31:41 PM 485 Views
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Getting a bit excessive - 17/03/2010 05:49:42 PM 483 Views
Hear, hear. *NM* - 18/03/2010 03:30:33 AM 232 Views

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