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Agreed. Joel Send a noteboard - 23/03/2010 05:36:14 AM
In part because "black music" is an antiquated term at best and quite insulting in several contexts. The black paint would be construed by several as being related to blackface attire and that is very controversial here and has been for at least one generation, if not two.

Interesting how social mores differ from culture to culture, though.

I'm reminded of the recent kerfluffle over the Down Under minstrel show, how strongly Harry Connick Jr. reacted to it on the scene and how baffled everyone else was at the time. I can see how Connick, as a New Orleans musician and son of a LA Supreme Court Justice, would have a very visceral reaction to a 21st Century minstrel show (and I believe the American controversy over that is more than just a couple generations old. ) I can also see how people overseas would be completely at a loss to understand it (though, in all fairness, it shouldn't be as hard to grasp in Australia. ) The mere fact there's a version of the commercial with both a black and white radio host gives the lie to the idea of "black" music, but I can see how Europe wouldn't be as sensitive (or hypersensitive) to the concept as America because the legacy is very different.

I'd say it's "quasi-racist" because musical tastes and/or talent are not racially defined, though obviously cultural predispositions exist. It's all well to say Mozart was the first rock star, but while he might have picked up rock had he been exposed to it, he never was and thus never composed any.

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I'd say that's pretty racist. - 22/03/2010 01:53:59 PM 784 Views
I don't think it's racist at all - 22/03/2010 07:15:55 PM 839 Views
Uh. - 22/03/2010 09:36:35 PM 922 Views
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I'm not Dutch, but that was a pretty ignornant claim - 29/03/2010 07:20:09 PM 792 Views
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Not "higher" nor "lower," but "different" would be the word to use here - 29/03/2010 07:46:15 PM 722 Views
Re: Not "higher" nor "lower," but "different" would be the word to use here - 29/03/2010 07:53:56 PM 679 Views
An illustration of Larry's point... - 29/03/2010 08:14:55 PM 745 Views
This. ~points at Larry's post~ *NM* - 29/03/2010 07:42:35 PM 438 Views
Re: This. ~points at Larry's post~ - 29/03/2010 07:57:30 PM 769 Views
Um. - 29/03/2010 08:00:54 PM 917 Views
Re: Um. - 29/03/2010 08:44:31 PM 710 Views
My question for you was on that one line that Larry responded to. - 29/03/2010 08:46:26 PM 745 Views
I was thinking the same thing as Rebekah - 23/03/2010 07:15:51 AM 785 Views
I don't see it - 22/03/2010 08:19:31 PM 774 Views
+1 *NM* - 22/03/2010 08:30:01 PM 427 Views
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Re: +3 *NM* - 22/03/2010 10:00:55 PM 408 Views
i'd say the actions in the commercial are more racist than the words - 22/03/2010 10:00:02 PM 760 Views
It would not float here in the US - 22/03/2010 10:07:08 PM 776 Views
Agreed. - 23/03/2010 05:36:14 AM 929 Views
Could you please expand on one point in your reasoning? - 23/03/2010 07:20:31 AM 781 Views
It's not race specific music if it's enjoyed/performed/presented by various races. - 23/03/2010 07:32:33 AM 1020 Views
MOBO - 23/03/2010 10:20:22 AM 734 Views
Nice term, if a bit clumsy - 23/03/2010 11:10:34 AM 733 Views
The trouble lies in historical neuroses cooked in our melting pot, I think. - 23/03/2010 11:29:06 AM 777 Views
I suspect so as well - 23/03/2010 12:32:00 PM 873 Views
Well, the thing is, "American" is PURELY a culture, not a race. - 23/03/2010 01:55:59 PM 991 Views
That's part of what I was thinking - 23/03/2010 07:50:19 AM 1103 Views
Only if it's racist to mention the fact that different races exist. Which seems to be the US view. - 23/03/2010 09:24:23 AM 771 Views
Agreed - 23/03/2010 10:21:59 AM 803 Views
Not at all, the problem is when people seem to say something is exclusive to a given race. - 23/03/2010 11:51:06 AM 1018 Views
I agree with some of what you say, but I think you're assuming more than is warranted. - 23/03/2010 02:33:34 PM 728 Views
perhaps not as default... - 23/03/2010 03:08:19 PM 804 Views
The term encompasses listeners, performers and presenters. - 23/03/2010 04:42:55 PM 823 Views
So it's really not about skin color any more, right? - 23/03/2010 09:12:20 PM 855 Views
it's racist and unacceptable. - 23/03/2010 09:07:10 PM 889 Views

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