This whole topic is wild, it's something I sometimes think about.
LordPerrin Send a noteboard - 07/04/2010 01:17:50 AM
We'll never know how much was lost there, how many breakthroughs were forgotten and had to be rediscovered centuries later. That's before we even consider the impact on art and culture, on philosophy, on academics in general. How many ancient works only exist as fragments now, or even just allusions in other fragmentary works? Perhaps the greatest opportunity of our vaunted Information Age is to thoroughly and compactly preserve the sum of human learning in multiple durable forms. Obviously much of that is contingent on being able to access the data, but as long as there's a working piece of hardware with the data stored and a source of electricity it won't be lost. The downside, of course: Internet spam. 

But yes, we may have been much farther than we are now had the Library survived.
As does Constantinople not falling, which was my first choice in light of our discussion above, but the flip side is that without it there's no Renaissance and modern Western culture as we know it would not exist. Ironically, Muslim territorial expansion during the Golden Age of the caliphates set the stage for Western supremacy when the Mid-East became insular.
For example, my Grandpa (my Dad's dad) fought in the Korean War. My Dad was born in 1959, and the Korean War ended in 1953. If Grandpa was killed in the war (thank God he wasn't), my Dad wouldn't have been born, and I wouldn't have been born. Kinda wild.
I'm not strange. I'm normal. Everyone else is strange.
Oosta!
I know I just did a survey, but this was too good to pass up.
- 07/04/2010 12:44:15 AM
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Myself: World War I.
- 07/04/2010 12:45:57 AM
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I don't think it's that simple.
- 07/04/2010 12:57:16 AM
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I see your point.
- 07/04/2010 01:02:33 AM
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True, one might even say *adding* a war there would've improved things.
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Re: True, one might even say *adding* a war there would've improved things.
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I had a teacher with an interesting theory related to that
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Well, at this time, it was pretty well accepted that Russia wasn't exactly a techinical power.
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The Plague
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Re: The Plague
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He must be talking about a different plague, but I'm not sure which one, either. *NM*
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Maybe; there were episodic plague epidemics before and after that time.
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I am talking about one of the plagues not THE plague
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Re: I am talking about one of the plagues not THE plague
- 07/04/2010 08:45:26 PM
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I'm so glad you have the time and inclination to type up these replies.
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- 08/04/2010 07:09:22 AM
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*NM*
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...?
- 08/04/2010 07:51:14 PM
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Sounds like he was thanking you for saving him the effort of writing a similar reply. *NM*
- 08/04/2010 09:28:55 PM
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OK, think this one's been pretty thoroughly covered in my absence.
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The spread of Christianity
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Re: The spread of Christianity
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But wasn't Christianity the inspiration for a whole era of art? *NM*
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Re: But wasn't Christianity the inspiration for a whole era of art?
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The product of Christian inspiration was heavily Hellenistic in origin...
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The destruction of the Great Library.
- 07/04/2010 01:02:59 AM
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Internet spam sucks indeed.
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We'll never know; makes for fascinating speculative fiction.
- 07/04/2010 01:13:49 AM
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This whole topic is wild, it's something I sometimes think about.
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"Joel captures Alexandria! The Great Library is destroyed!" *NM*
- 07/04/2010 01:08:35 AM
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It's crazy to think that the human knowledge base doubles every 2 years...
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Literacy and communication have literally made a world of difference.
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if the giant meteor hadn't destroyed the dinosaurs...
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"FOR" global warming? Now there's a phrase I never thought I'd here!
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The spread of Islam
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oh aren't you clever. *NM*
- 07/04/2010 01:47:13 AM
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There's such a thing as being right for the wrong reasons, though I'm not sure he is.
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Wikipedia is of course not a scholarly source, but all the same...
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Fair enough.
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Re: The spread of Islam
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I...do not know.
- 07/04/2010 07:18:13 AM
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A lot of times, you change one thing, and everything changes- even the things you don't think about.
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Amusing that the underlying expectation seems to be more along political history lines
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Here's one that'll be more to your liking...
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Re: Here's one that'll be more to your liking...
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Uh...
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Re: Uh...
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The Devil is always in the details
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Re: The Devil is always in the details
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Not really
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Re: Not really
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Only to a degree
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Re: Only to a degree
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I was into cultural and religious history
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Re: I was into cultural and religious history
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Ha!
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Re: Ha!
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Since, surprisingly, no one's pointed it out yet, prehistory/=history.
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Re: I know I just did a survey, but this was too good to pass up.
- 07/04/2010 09:04:02 PM
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Science getting on the ball in the 40's and making superhumans *NM*
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The spread of peanut butter and jelly.
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I think two spreads that would be better to eliminate would be marmite and vegemite (sp).
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The head of [Roman Catholic] Christianity.
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You completely missed the "pick 1" part of the question, didn't you? *NM*
- 08/04/2010 09:26:23 AM
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Well, techinically, I never said that you couldn't make multible posts, each discussing 1 thing. *NM*
- 08/04/2010 05:36:37 PM
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I'm fairly sure he was just mocking someone's earlier post "just thought it would be interesting..." *NM*
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I'm pretty sure of that too. *NM*
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