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Ask yourself the question... Legolas Send a noteboard - 08/04/2010 09:33:33 PM
Most of what the Muslims "invented" were just simple rediscoveries they made from the Library in Alexandria, rediscoveries that were initially made by the Greeks and Romans. Without the Islamic invasions into Europe, the burning of Churches and Monasteries, that stuff would never have been lost in the first place.

Do you believe that because you have seriously investigated the matter and read enough scientific sources to base a judgement on, or do you believe it because you want to believe it? And then draw your conclusions. Which you don't have to share here or anything - I'm not so naive as to think this post would make you openly change your views.
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I know I just did a survey, but this was too good to pass up. LordPerrin - 07/04/2010 12:44:15 AM 862 Views
Myself: World War I. LordPerrin - 07/04/2010 12:45:57 AM 735 Views
I don't think it's that simple. Joel - 07/04/2010 12:57:16 AM 686 Views
I see your point. LordPerrin - 07/04/2010 01:02:33 AM 679 Views
Sometimes sooner is better than later. Joel - 07/04/2010 01:10:11 AM 659 Views
True. LordPerrin - 07/04/2010 01:14:45 AM 636 Views
True, one might even say *adding* a war there would've improved things. Legolas - 07/04/2010 01:36:07 AM 640 Views
*nods* A small war is usually preferable to a big war. Joel - 07/04/2010 01:49:06 AM 637 Views
Re: True, one might even say *adding* a war there would've improved things. snoopcester - 07/04/2010 10:48:49 AM 649 Views
I had a teacher with an interesting theory related to that LadyLorraine - 07/04/2010 12:57:49 AM 528 Views
Well, at this time, it was pretty well accepted that Russia wasn't exactly a techinical power. LordPerrin - 07/04/2010 01:04:35 AM 482 Views
The Plague MalkierKnight - 07/04/2010 12:52:33 AM 617 Views
Re: The Plague LordPerrin - 07/04/2010 01:05:35 AM 514 Views
He must be talking about a different plague, but I'm not sure which one, either. *NM* Legolas - 07/04/2010 01:37:32 AM 392 Views
Maybe; there were episodic plague epidemics before and after that time. Joel - 07/04/2010 02:05:18 AM 676 Views
I am talking about one of the plagues not THE plague MalkierKnight - 07/04/2010 02:50:25 AM 617 Views
Re: I am talking about one of the plagues not THE plague lyringlas - 07/04/2010 08:45:26 PM 610 Views
I'm so glad you have the time and inclination to type up these replies. *NM* Ghavrel - 08/04/2010 07:09:22 AM 390 Views
...? lyringlas - 08/04/2010 07:51:14 PM 526 Views
Sounds like he was thanking you for saving him the effort of writing a similar reply. *NM* Legolas - 08/04/2010 09:28:55 PM 410 Views
If that is the case, then great *NM* lyringlas - 08/04/2010 09:30:51 PM 363 Views
OK, think this one's been pretty thoroughly covered in my absence. Joel - 13/04/2010 11:51:16 AM 675 Views
The spread of Christianity LadyLorraine - 07/04/2010 12:55:29 AM 695 Views
Huh. Wild to think about. *NM* LordPerrin - 07/04/2010 01:06:44 AM 394 Views
Re: The spread of Christianity lyringlas - 07/04/2010 08:47:06 PM 513 Views
Re: The spread of Christianity Camilla - 08/04/2010 09:29:17 AM 532 Views
Why would that have an impact on Judaism? Kronin al'Sulc - 08/04/2010 01:40:47 PM 611 Views
Re: Why would that have an impact on Judaism? Camilla - 08/04/2010 01:42:25 PM 443 Views
But wasn't Christianity the inspiration for a whole era of art? *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 08/04/2010 01:41:34 PM 483 Views
Re: But wasn't Christianity the inspiration for a whole era of art? Camilla - 08/04/2010 01:44:36 PM 662 Views
precisely. LadyLorraine - 08/04/2010 05:37:26 PM 633 Views
sorry, didn't see that Lorraine already addressed this. *NM* lyringlas - 08/04/2010 07:55:00 PM 389 Views
The product of Christian inspiration was heavily Hellenistic in origin... lyringlas - 08/04/2010 07:54:12 PM 507 Views
The Partition of India, 1947... *NM* BlackAdder - 07/04/2010 12:59:32 AM 392 Views
Any paticular reason why? *NM* LordPerrin - 07/04/2010 01:34:54 AM 392 Views
Agreed. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 07/04/2010 01:59:02 AM 509 Views
The destruction of the Great Library. Joel - 07/04/2010 01:02:59 AM 588 Views
Internet spam sucks indeed. LordPerrin - 07/04/2010 01:08:23 AM 690 Views
We'll never know; makes for fascinating speculative fiction. Joel - 07/04/2010 01:13:49 AM 641 Views
This whole topic is wild, it's something I sometimes think about. LordPerrin - 07/04/2010 01:17:50 AM 625 Views
Ya, that's what makes history so gripping. Joel - 07/04/2010 01:19:54 AM 716 Views
I don't know if that's really true... Legolas - 07/04/2010 01:39:51 AM 636 Views
It wouldn't have been as sudden or extreme. Joel - 07/04/2010 01:58:39 AM 674 Views
"Joel captures Alexandria! The Great Library is destroyed!" *NM* moondog - 07/04/2010 01:08:35 AM 260 Views
NOOOO1111 Joel - 07/04/2010 01:11:33 AM 549 Views
A shame. It's one of the better ones, too. *NM* BlackAdder - 07/04/2010 01:14:20 AM 393 Views
Not in the first two Civs. Joel - 07/04/2010 01:22:43 AM 482 Views
Civ, i love that game... MalkierKnight - 07/04/2010 03:01:13 AM 588 Views
Yeah that's one of the small annoying things BlackAdder - 07/04/2010 07:34:52 AM 479 Views
An interesting point MalkierKnight - 07/04/2010 02:57:03 AM 643 Views
That's usually my reply to this question too *NM* ironclad - 07/04/2010 11:42:55 AM 362 Views
It's crazy to think that the human knowledge base doubles every 2 years... lyringlas - 07/04/2010 08:49:28 PM 485 Views
Literacy and communication have literally made a world of difference. Joel - 13/04/2010 09:25:45 AM 569 Views
if the giant meteor hadn't destroyed the dinosaurs... moondog - 07/04/2010 01:10:42 AM 552 Views
"FOR" global warming? Now there's a phrase I never thought I'd here! LordPerrin - 07/04/2010 01:16:04 AM 471 Views
The spread of Islam Dragonsoul - 07/04/2010 01:26:11 AM 651 Views
oh aren't you clever. *NM* LadyLorraine - 07/04/2010 01:47:13 AM 370 Views
There's such a thing as being right for the wrong reasons, though I'm not sure he is. Joel - 07/04/2010 02:12:14 AM 467 Views
Wikipedia is of course not a scholarly source, but all the same... Legolas - 07/04/2010 11:57:01 AM 620 Views
Fair enough. Joel - 07/04/2010 12:51:16 PM 610 Views
I read the Bernard Lewis article referred to at Wikipedia... Legolas - 07/04/2010 01:19:03 PM 597 Views
So it's borrowed propaganda. Joel - 13/04/2010 09:30:39 AM 581 Views
Re: The spread of Islam Camilla - 08/04/2010 09:24:31 AM 687 Views
Haha, are you kidding? Dragonsoul - 08/04/2010 07:59:39 PM 451 Views
Re: Haha, are you kidding? Camilla - 08/04/2010 08:50:33 PM 439 Views
Ask yourself the question... Legolas - 08/04/2010 09:33:33 PM 456 Views
I don't see the connection. BlackAdder - 08/04/2010 08:49:46 PM 632 Views
Re: I don't see the connection. Camilla - 08/04/2010 08:51:21 PM 495 Views
I'd better not touch this one ßelals Girl - 07/04/2010 03:12:00 AM 662 Views
The spread of Judaism. Great Lord of Chaos - 07/04/2010 04:30:37 AM 589 Views
Re: The spread of Judaism. BlackAdder - 07/04/2010 07:31:02 AM 530 Views
I...do not know. Spriteling - 07/04/2010 07:18:13 AM 523 Views
A lot of times, you change one thing, and everything changes- even the things you don't think about. LordPerrin - 07/04/2010 12:26:51 PM 483 Views
Amusing that the underlying expectation seems to be more along political history lines Larry - 07/04/2010 12:56:49 PM 706 Views
Considering the way history is taught, is it surprising? *NM* Ghavrel - 08/04/2010 07:11:03 AM 353 Views
Nope, not really Larry - 08/04/2010 10:24:54 AM 619 Views
Here's one that'll be more to your liking... Legolas - 08/04/2010 10:40:53 AM 457 Views
Yes Larry - 08/04/2010 10:52:11 AM 598 Views
Re: Here's one that'll be more to your liking... Camilla - 08/04/2010 11:58:27 AM 492 Views
Uh... Larry - 08/04/2010 12:11:14 PM 651 Views
Re: Uh... Camilla - 08/04/2010 12:15:20 PM 668 Views
The Devil is always in the details Larry - 08/04/2010 12:29:25 PM 612 Views
Re: The Devil is always in the details Camilla - 08/04/2010 12:32:34 PM 402 Views
Not really Larry - 08/04/2010 01:07:57 PM 570 Views
Re: Not really Camilla - 08/04/2010 01:10:16 PM 489 Views
Only to a degree Larry - 08/04/2010 01:27:22 PM 587 Views
Re: Only to a degree Camilla - 08/04/2010 01:30:12 PM 698 Views
I was into cultural and religious history Larry - 08/04/2010 01:38:24 PM 594 Views
Re: I was into cultural and religious history Camilla - 08/04/2010 01:41:31 PM 464 Views
Ha! Larry - 08/04/2010 01:49:23 PM 622 Views
Re: Ha! Camilla - 08/04/2010 01:51:28 PM 447 Views
I'm really sleep deprived... Larry - 08/04/2010 02:13:20 PM 745 Views
Re: I'm really sleep deprived... Camilla - 08/04/2010 02:19:07 PM 493 Views
Camilla - 08/04/2010 02:52:59 PM 595 Views
Interesting fact of the day for you two... Legolas - 08/04/2010 02:45:15 PM 486 Views
I know Camilla - 08/04/2010 02:46:41 PM 620 Views
It was nice being a "threadkiller" of a different sort Larry - 08/04/2010 10:08:34 PM 494 Views
Quote Pyramids of Destiny FTL *NM* BlackAdder - 08/04/2010 10:16:21 PM 382 Views
Since, surprisingly, no one's pointed it out yet, prehistory/=history. Joel - 13/04/2010 09:52:19 AM 592 Views
me being born mega rich *NM* random thoughts - 07/04/2010 02:15:34 PM 500 Views
Joanie Loves Chachi. Tigr - 07/04/2010 03:42:56 PM 545 Views
worse than "afterMASH"?? *NM* moondog - 07/04/2010 03:50:10 PM 347 Views
Worse than "Joey" ? *NM* TaskmasterJack - 07/04/2010 06:48:25 PM 368 Views
If you remember Joanie loves Chachi, you might be too old? StarrBecca - 08/04/2010 12:00:34 AM 473 Views
Re: I know I just did a survey, but this was too good to pass up. lyringlas - 07/04/2010 09:04:02 PM 494 Views
Science getting on the ball in the 40's and making superhumans *NM* fistofpainx - 08/04/2010 05:31:34 AM 421 Views
The spread of peanut butter and jelly. Ghavrel - 08/04/2010 07:12:21 AM 642 Views
I think two spreads that would be better to eliminate would be marmite and vegemite (sp). Avendesora - 08/04/2010 05:30:26 PM 607 Views
The Bread of Christianity. Ghavrel - 08/04/2010 07:12:51 AM 631 Views
The dead of Christianity. Ghavrel - 08/04/2010 07:13:34 AM 623 Views
The thread of Christianity. Ghavrel - 08/04/2010 07:14:15 AM 562 Views
The head of [Roman Catholic] Christianity. Ghavrel - 08/04/2010 07:15:21 AM 600 Views
You completely missed the "pick 1" part of the question, didn't you? *NM* Camilla - 08/04/2010 09:26:23 AM 377 Views
Well, techinically, I never said that you couldn't make multible posts, each discussing 1 thing. *NM* LordPerrin - 08/04/2010 05:36:37 PM 351 Views
I'm fairly sure he was just mocking someone's earlier post "just thought it would be interesting..." *NM* lyringlas - 08/04/2010 08:06:56 PM 354 Views
I'm pretty sure of that too. *NM* LordPerrin - 08/04/2010 08:33:46 PM 358 Views
...it's pretty interesting *NM* lyringlas - 08/04/2010 08:35:47 PM 418 Views
just as you thought it would be? *NM* BlackAdder - 08/04/2010 08:44:49 PM 353 Views
My parody. Ghavrel - 08/04/2010 10:41:29 PM 575 Views
Re: My parody. Camilla - 09/04/2010 07:29:19 AM 654 Views
The 1987 Rugby World Cup Final Colonel Logain - 13/04/2010 12:23:17 PM 654 Views
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