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Like SVU and NCIS are both crime dramas, stylistic differences can remain under one genre umbrella. Zalis Send a noteboard - 19/01/2011 03:11:41 PM
Or at least it sounds good in my head. To the world at large, they're the same category. More discerning/nerdy folk like us are more acquainted with their differences.

I almost clarified that in my previous post, but figured people wouldn't nitpick. :D JRPGs do seem to be "watch cinematic with androgynous teens, grind, drink potion, expose how little sense Japanese pop culture makes to Westerners, watch cinematic, win" whereas Westerns are more "pick skill tree, grind, drink potion, wax pseudo-philosophic while inserting modern thought into medieval settings, watch Tolkien-inspired ending cinematic, win." I generalize greatly here, but I think you're picking up what I'm putting down.

Despite loving them as a kid, I can't tolerate most JRPGs now. Both sub-genres are rife with same-y-ness, but I prefer what's coming out of the West. The Mass Effect series is really refreshing, for instance.
The sword might be grateful to the forge fire, but never fond of it.
This message last edited by Zalis on 19/01/2011 at 03:15:10 PM
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I need a good RPG. Ghavrel - 13/01/2011 06:49:32 PM 3275 Views
The Witcher Zalis - 13/01/2011 07:13:50 PM 1963 Views
I have the Witcher waiting at home for me to install next week Stephen - 13/01/2011 08:59:45 PM 1796 Views
Hm. I have it as a project to improve my French, but I found the gameplay pretty boring. Ghavrel - 14/01/2011 05:38:15 AM 1936 Views
If you find The Witcher boring, you'll likely feel the same about Baldur's Gate 2, IWD, etc. Zalis - 14/01/2011 03:07:12 PM 1884 Views
All right. I'll give it a shot, then. Thanks. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/01/2011 08:17:17 PM 1059 Views
Make sure you get the enhanced edition, or whatever it's called. Aemon - 14/01/2011 09:56:56 PM 1920 Views
It's funny, that, because it's based on a critically acclaimed book series. Legolas - 15/01/2011 01:13:39 PM 1908 Views
I've heard that, yeah. I just don't think enough of it made it into the game. (minor spoilers) Aemon - 15/01/2011 08:12:34 PM 1883 Views
The thing is, what works in a book doesn't necessarily work in a game. lord-of-shadow - 18/01/2011 06:15:10 PM 1954 Views
Wow, I guess you touched a nerve, Legolas. New pet peeve discovered! *NM* lord-of-shadow - 18/01/2011 06:22:37 PM 1081 Views
I don't have time to do this justice, but I'll make a brief comment. Aemon - 18/01/2011 09:30:20 PM 1921 Views
Did you read his post? lord-of-shadow - 18/01/2011 09:59:21 PM 1904 Views
Yeah, that was one of the things I didn't have time to respond to. Aemon - 18/01/2011 10:31:46 PM 1877 Views
Re: Yeah, that was one of the things I didn't have time to respond to. lord-of-shadow - 18/01/2011 10:43:20 PM 1956 Views
So I just realized I sparked a bit of a controversy here... I should check this board more often. Legolas - 25/01/2011 10:28:34 PM 1840 Views
Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn? Fanatic-Templar - 13/01/2011 08:00:21 PM 1838 Views
Try Divinity 2: Dragonknight Saga. Dan - 13/01/2011 10:38:45 PM 2093 Views
Do yourself a favor... A Deathwatch Guard - 13/01/2011 10:39:41 PM 1849 Views
Everything is the opposite of Morrowind, though. Ghavrel - 14/01/2011 05:37:42 AM 2015 Views
Just go ahead and shoot yourself now A Deathwatch Guard - 14/01/2011 07:51:06 PM 1866 Views
...you were so right. Fable is an MMORPG without the other people. Ghavrel - 15/01/2011 06:35:46 AM 1903 Views
...dislikes...Fallout...3....*dies* *NM* ironclad - 13/01/2011 11:34:10 PM 1069 Views
It was boring. Really, really boring. Ghavrel - 14/01/2011 05:36:41 AM 1918 Views
I'm with you, brother! beetnemesis - 14/01/2011 05:51:41 AM 1910 Views
awwww...I loved Fallout 3 Fox and Ravens - 14/01/2011 03:37:51 PM 1839 Views
No... Jacob - 14/01/2011 03:47:22 PM 2064 Views
It's minecraft with guns. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/01/2011 08:16:23 PM 1068 Views
And without a destructible environment. Ghavrel - 14/01/2011 08:16:52 PM 1830 Views
Yet... Jacob - 15/01/2011 01:27:28 AM 1826 Views
I enjoyed its gameplay more than Fallout. Ghavrel - 15/01/2011 01:40:06 AM 1904 Views
The best story I've ever seen... A Deathwatch Guard - 15/01/2011 05:01:47 AM 1897 Views
I never got to finish Xenogears... beetnemesis - 15/01/2011 09:37:36 AM 1959 Views
I never got to finish Xenogears... beetnemesis - 15/01/2011 09:37:36 AM 1775 Views
"It's minecraft with guns." Ouch. Come on. Fallout3 was better than that. *NM* ianski - 19/01/2011 04:09:30 AM 1037 Views
Coming from me, actually, that's higher praise than it deserves. Ghavrel - 19/01/2011 06:54:57 AM 1885 Views
I got it for like $25, I'd say that's about what Fallout 3 is worth beetnemesis - 19/01/2011 05:09:34 PM 2001 Views
You got Fallout 3 or New Vegas for $25 Jacob - 19/01/2011 06:12:26 PM 1811 Views
Fallout 3. Haven't played New Vegas. *NM* beetnemesis - 19/01/2011 07:41:24 PM 1049 Views
Jacob - 19/01/2011 09:01:18 PM 1885 Views
Wait. You haven't played it yet? ianski - 20/01/2011 03:46:17 AM 1902 Views
Well said ironclad - 20/01/2011 08:43:25 AM 1812 Views
Fallout 3 is more about the little stories than the big one... Jacob - 20/01/2011 01:55:24 PM 1947 Views
Precisely. *NM* ironclad - 20/01/2011 07:48:21 PM 1054 Views
Both games are great. Jacob - 20/01/2011 01:56:14 PM 1862 Views
Played Fallout 3, but not NV. Ghavrel - 20/01/2011 06:22:33 PM 1786 Views
I'm sure I'll be trying that new ianski - 21/01/2011 02:04:47 PM 1955 Views
Don't play Mass Effect 2 without playing Mass Effect 1. It's a much worse game. Ghavrel - 21/01/2011 06:43:16 PM 1900 Views
Yes, play ME1 first... but opinions vary about ME2. It did the most important things better, IMO. Zalis - 21/01/2011 11:57:26 PM 1962 Views
PC gaming is drying up. ianski - 22/01/2011 01:29:09 AM 1834 Views
That's true if gameplay is more important to you than story. Ghavrel - 22/01/2011 06:50:32 AM 1930 Views
ME1 wasn't even going to release on the PC initially, so I think we could be worse off. Zalis - 22/01/2011 03:27:05 PM 1786 Views
Fallout 3 was a post apocalyptic Oblivion. MightyYT - 14/01/2011 08:02:28 AM 1931 Views
If you want a GREAT story, I would go for... MightyYT - 14/01/2011 08:04:15 AM 1965 Views
I second the idea of Borderlands if you like loot-generating/diabloesque RPGs w/ others. Zalis - 14/01/2011 03:09:29 PM 1867 Views
Played it. It was good. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/01/2011 08:15:38 PM 1059 Views
the baldur's gate trilogy and the icewind dales *NM* Foxhead - 14/01/2011 09:32:32 AM 991 Views
Icewind Dale has no story. Fanatic-Templar - 14/01/2011 07:19:15 PM 1844 Views
I'm surprised you liked Oblivion. Dan - 15/01/2011 12:47:24 AM 1967 Views
I liked Oblivion because it was the sequel to Morrowind. Ghavrel - 15/01/2011 01:31:51 AM 1773 Views
Do you know about "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim"? It will be released Nov 2011 *NM* Roland00 - 15/01/2011 04:52:13 AM 1003 Views
The trailer to that is so awesome A Deathwatch Guard - 15/01/2011 04:58:04 AM 1818 Views
It is a good teaser... Jacob - 18/01/2011 04:21:15 PM 1867 Views
I do. But after Oblivion, I refuse to buy into hype. Ghavrel - 15/01/2011 06:34:49 AM 1852 Views
Final Fantasy 8. Nebhead - 18/01/2011 09:10:51 AM 2061 Views
That was the first FF I quit before even finishing, and consequently the last I played in the series Zalis - 18/01/2011 03:23:40 PM 1856 Views
I wouldn't even call JRPGs and Western RPGs the same genre, really. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 19/01/2011 02:45:17 PM 962 Views
Like SVU and NCIS are both crime dramas, stylistic differences can remain under one genre umbrella. Zalis - 19/01/2011 03:11:41 PM 1855 Views
Yeah, I think I'm running into WRPG burnout. Ghavrel - 19/01/2011 06:23:49 PM 1930 Views
Worth a shot. Thanks. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/01/2011 06:07:23 PM 1025 Views
If you're going the Final Fantasy route, I'd recommend Final Fantasy Tactics. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 20/01/2011 06:36:02 PM 983 Views
ianski - 21/01/2011 02:14:41 PM 1858 Views
The gameplay or the story? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 22/01/2011 06:24:06 AM 1028 Views
Gameplay is preventing me from playing this game. ianski - 23/01/2011 03:09:39 PM 1901 Views
Go SNES! FF6, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound... beetnemesis - 19/01/2011 07:42:23 PM 1773 Views
I can agree to that. Fanatic-Templar - 19/01/2011 08:03:59 PM 1923 Views
A suggestion we can all agree on. Zalis - 19/01/2011 08:07:54 PM 1939 Views
Holy. Fanatic-Templar - 21/01/2011 08:17:35 PM 1915 Views
What do you think of Strategy RPGs? *NM* Roland00 - 20/01/2011 03:59:52 PM 1000 Views
wat *NM* Ghavrel - 21/01/2011 04:13:07 AM 904 Views
Strat-RPG?? Are they doing a Jagged Alliance sequel?? ianski - 21/01/2011 02:06:05 PM 1764 Views
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