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Also, For the Record MrFarstrider Send a noteboard - 30/07/2017 08:02:58 AM

I am neither for nor against either the Obama or Trump policies as it would be wildly inappropriate for me to question the policy and orders of the civilian chain of command. I am merely providing incite to our enthusiastic elector overlords so that they can continue to make good, but mostly indifferent, decisions once it comes time for less than half of the population to elect my new boss in the White House.

There, that should cover me arse.

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Thoughts on the internet outrage over Trump's transgenders in the military announcement damookster - 26/07/2017 05:42:34 PM 908 Views
Maybe because.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 06:08:16 PM 495 Views
I get that damookster - 26/07/2017 06:12:35 PM 493 Views
I don't think that your reasoning is flawed.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 06:31:06 PM 558 Views
bottom line damookster - 26/07/2017 06:40:36 PM 527 Views
*shrug* Jeordam - 26/07/2017 07:05:17 PM 461 Views
I dare say a lot of the rhetoric is seriously over the top... Legolas - 26/07/2017 06:13:59 PM 507 Views
like I replied to Jeo, I don't see this as a betrayal of the LGBT cause damookster - 26/07/2017 06:19:01 PM 534 Views
LGB is not the same as T. We need to stop treating it all the same. Tom - 26/07/2017 06:58:05 PM 515 Views
No the least of which... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 07:06:21 PM 543 Views
Physical mutilation is a more appropriate word. Tom - 26/07/2017 07:07:33 PM 494 Views
You're correct.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 09:28:20 PM 476 Views
Not always, keep that in mind. Legolas - 26/07/2017 07:35:34 PM 504 Views
I would still consider that.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 09:02:36 PM 531 Views
John McCain is the Left's favorite RINO Tom - 26/07/2017 08:09:41 PM 550 Views
He's not a RINO. Just built his career on being independent-minded. Legolas - 26/07/2017 09:49:32 PM 543 Views
I really don't see the independence. Where is it? Tom - 27/07/2017 01:33:27 AM 499 Views
So which is it, is he a RINO or a faithful Republican foot soldier? Legolas - 27/07/2017 08:08:04 PM 541 Views
RINOs are a pack. Tom - 28/07/2017 12:46:44 AM 494 Views
Agreed with McCain The Shrike - 27/07/2017 03:35:06 PM 509 Views
It makes eminent sense why trannies shouldn't be allowed. Tom - 26/07/2017 06:57:00 PM 516 Views
I tried to keep my points to the logic of excluding an 18 yr old trans person damookster - 26/07/2017 07:16:37 PM 556 Views
I don't have any desire to stop people from doing it Tom - 26/07/2017 07:32:08 PM 486 Views
I agree damookster - 26/07/2017 07:59:18 PM 572 Views
Absolutely agree on all counts *NM* Cannoli - 27/07/2017 06:40:03 AM 270 Views
You don't need to be 'straight' to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight. Joel - 27/07/2017 10:14:11 PM 497 Views
You're an idiot. *NM* Tom - 28/07/2017 12:47:21 AM 277 Views
You also need to pass some sort of physical standards Cannoli - 28/07/2017 03:52:14 AM 526 Views
So I was reading.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 09:07:11 PM 511 Views
This is part of my point Tom - 26/07/2017 09:47:39 PM 519 Views
The rate goes down significantly after transition. Ghavrel - 26/07/2017 11:24:50 PM 497 Views
Bullshit. Tom - 27/07/2017 01:40:05 AM 588 Views
I also like that study because it uses correct terminology: transsexual, sex-reassigned. Tom - 27/07/2017 01:42:19 AM 533 Views
Gender has had a non-grammatical meaning since the 1950s, and you know it. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 03:05:09 AM 494 Views
And people misuse the subjunctive all the time. Your point? Tom - 27/07/2017 04:57:19 AM 496 Views
Re: And people misuse the subjunctive all the time. Your point? Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 02:13:57 PM 519 Views
That's not necessarily a biological difference Tom - 27/07/2017 05:03:30 PM 542 Views
or liposuction or laser fat removal too. *NM* damookster - 27/07/2017 05:06:56 PM 291 Views
Facelifts, tummy tucks, collagen implants, nose jobs... *NM* Tom - 27/07/2017 05:09:01 PM 270 Views
Not bullshit. The rate decreases. It is still elevated relative to the general population. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 03:00:15 AM 521 Views
"transition is the cure" Tom - 27/07/2017 04:50:11 AM 514 Views
Sloppy wording on my part. Transition is currently the most effective known cure. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 02:18:41 PM 516 Views
Yes, but that just argues against transsexuals in the military either way Tom - 27/07/2017 05:04:39 PM 468 Views
Yes, and I don't feel particularly strongly about the current fiasco for that reason. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 05:51:29 PM 504 Views
Yes, I am waiting for one of our veterans to weigh in with their thoughts. *NM* damookster - 27/07/2017 06:13:19 PM 266 Views
For what it's worth.... Jeordam - 28/07/2017 10:36:22 PM 543 Views
I have a friend who was an officer in the army who feels the same way. Ghavrel - 29/07/2017 12:37:48 AM 492 Views
which should then close the debate on the original question damookster - 27/07/2017 05:07:34 AM 536 Views
Exactly. *NM* Tom - 27/07/2017 01:26:48 PM 278 Views
Well, to the extent that it covers people with dysphoria, sure. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 02:26:26 PM 475 Views
As I said above, Viagra treats a dysfunction Tom - 27/07/2017 05:08:19 PM 509 Views
also, to a point you made earlier damookster - 27/07/2017 05:39:32 PM 467 Views
Well, that's an argument for not putting them in roles where they can be captured, sure. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 05:53:02 PM 480 Views
The argument is that transition corrects the dysfunction of gender dysphoria. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 05:49:24 PM 456 Views
So let me understand your position correctly via asking a few questions Roland00 - 28/07/2017 04:01:50 AM 533 Views
Too long Tom - 28/07/2017 01:54:11 PM 514 Views
The main reason for the post was the standard you created Roland00 - 28/07/2017 05:00:27 PM 473 Views
Reductio ad absurdum, Roland? damookster - 28/07/2017 05:29:23 PM 480 Views
I know Tom and Cannoli don't care, but on the off chance that you do... Ghavrel - 29/07/2017 12:39:16 AM 503 Views
I didn't realize that damookster - 29/07/2017 01:10:30 AM 451 Views
Also trivia Roland00 - 29/07/2017 01:22:37 AM 435 Views
No worries. I'm not offended. I just thought you might want to know. *NM* Ghavrel - 29/07/2017 02:32:01 AM 245 Views
Thanks damookster - 29/07/2017 03:25:08 AM 458 Views
I don't? *NM* Cannoli - 29/07/2017 08:23:14 AM 282 Views
Yeah, I really don't care. Though I use the term for a different reason. Tom - 29/07/2017 07:12:03 PM 506 Views
So right now let me share the joke that is happening in my mind Roland00 - 29/07/2017 07:28:22 PM 437 Views
Girlfriend Mookie, you are projecting onto me. Roland00 - 29/07/2017 01:17:47 AM 523 Views
I absolutely respect you, Roland/Matt damookster - 29/07/2017 01:40:28 AM 445 Views
We are cool Roland00 - 29/07/2017 02:36:00 AM 494 Views
Blah blah blah and now I am showing off like an asshole Roland00 - 29/07/2017 02:52:48 AM 473 Views
you're a nice guy, Roland00 damookster - 29/07/2017 03:22:15 AM 487 Views
OMG mookie gave me the Nice Guy speech / Good Guy speech Roland00 - 29/07/2017 07:41:23 PM 425 Views
I've never seen Newsroom damookster - 29/07/2017 08:00:38 PM 462 Views
Teases I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too! Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:13:30 PM 466 Views
Nah, I'm not that subtle. damookster - 29/07/2017 11:01:39 PM 433 Views
Edit: Double Posted due to bad wifi *NM* Roland00 - 28/07/2017 04:01:51 AM 247 Views
Serving its end: As long as everyone argues over this, no one talks about Trumpcare nor Russiagate Joel - 27/07/2017 10:05:00 PM 468 Views
What's horrible is the portmandu with -gate......Can we just let that one go yet? *NM* Jeordam - 27/07/2017 10:51:20 PM 241 Views
Joel, seriously damookster - 29/07/2017 08:33:14 PM 496 Views
No the real boogeymen are the ones we do not see with our eyes, but are still lurking in the shadows Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:16:34 PM 420 Views
And Rejoice Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:17:42 PM 468 Views
You are mixing up your metaphors, it is sleight of hand not sleight of mind Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:20:17 PM 466 Views
Everybody Is Missing The Mark Here MrFarstrider - 29/07/2017 10:25:04 PM 570 Views
Nice comments. Thanks for that explanation. *NM* damookster - 29/07/2017 11:15:29 PM 272 Views
Also, For the Record MrFarstrider - 30/07/2017 08:02:58 AM 549 Views
Incite or Insight *NM* Roland00 - 01/08/2017 06:30:28 AM 258 Views
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