Active Users:705 Time:28/08/2026 06:04:28 PM
Moderates need a better narrative Tom Send a noteboard - 24/08/2017 05:19:14 AM

I have to say that I think it's useful to go back to Sorel at a point like this. People need a myth to synthesize disparate ideas into a coherent narrative about reality in order to truly move mountains. The far Left has its victim narrative - the patriarchy, the cisnormativity, white supremacy, etc. are all conspiring against the oppressed. Now Trump has a different narrative - make America great again. While I understand that many don't think there's a coherent narrative, it is internally consistent in its tone and its underlying belief structure.

Moderates don't have a good narrative right now. Globalism makes sense in a statistical way, but try convincing people in Ohio that it wasn't the reason their factories closed and they're all on heroin. Trusting the system doesn't ring true, either, because dysfunctionality in Washington has reached epic proportions. Moderates need a myth, and fast.

I realize that many moderates won't even like the idea of validating Sorel, but regardless of his political persuasion he has a point.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

*MySmiley*
Reply to message
What Moderates Believe - 23/08/2017 01:14:34 PM 1375 Views
You can see Brooks' conservative roots in his analysis of governments - 23/08/2017 02:58:58 PM 773 Views
I call myself a radical moderate - 23/08/2017 03:53:18 PM 787 Views
Brooks is the person I usually agree with the most at the NYT. - 23/08/2017 04:33:11 PM 685 Views
It isn't a universal truth, though - it may be valid in liberal democracies, but not everywhere. - 23/08/2017 06:56:29 PM 716 Views
I view governments like referees in sports - 23/08/2017 07:06:47 PM 740 Views
Yeah. That's a better way of putting it. *NM* - 23/08/2017 08:09:11 PM 378 Views
Truth may be objective but reality isn't - 23/08/2017 03:59:18 PM 658 Views
Polarization of both the Left and the Right - 23/08/2017 04:35:24 PM 732 Views
If only we had a centrist media source - 23/08/2017 05:15:13 PM 635 Views
No incentive in that - 23/08/2017 05:22:49 PM 980 Views
Great column, despite my quibble above. - 23/08/2017 07:03:31 PM 692 Views
I'm still hopeful about Macron. - 25/08/2017 06:25:31 PM 865 Views
The problem with getting a new party to break the two party lock - 23/08/2017 09:18:37 PM 878 Views
And Cash Money - 24/08/2017 06:23:34 PM 710 Views
Both parties are more fractured than they have been in a very long time - 24/08/2017 07:37:14 PM 693 Views
I was of the opinion that after Rand Paul was out of the primaries, - 24/08/2017 11:17:49 PM 717 Views
Sorry but no one one who wants to end social security has a chance too win - 25/08/2017 02:19:12 AM 676 Views
Universal Basic Income may be the issue. - 25/08/2017 06:26:08 PM 659 Views
This is an excellent point. - 25/08/2017 08:12:36 PM 765 Views
I think perhaps - 25/08/2017 10:22:14 PM 757 Views
Moderates need a better narrative - 24/08/2017 05:19:14 AM 637 Views
Rejecting the extremes - 24/08/2017 02:48:12 PM 703 Views
Does it matter why they're lukewarm? They're still going to get spewed out. - 24/08/2017 01:08:30 PM 918 Views
Moderates are from Laodicea? - 24/08/2017 01:37:44 PM 652 Views
Moderates are the Cheese Pizza of politics... - 24/08/2017 05:17:55 PM 706 Views
That is a cure analogy but not really accurate - 24/08/2017 05:38:54 PM 762 Views
You know what though? - 24/08/2017 06:18:48 PM 727 Views
*laughs* - 24/08/2017 07:03:58 PM 655 Views
- 24/08/2017 07:13:53 PM 647 Views
That's one heck of an oven.... - 24/08/2017 08:54:43 PM 679 Views
lets here it for libertarian pizza *NM* - 24/08/2017 07:25:18 PM 422 Views
I won't eat cheese pizza. *NM* - 24/08/2017 07:43:03 PM 391 Views
Cheese (Actually extra cheese pizza is my favorite) - 25/08/2017 06:29:41 PM 802 Views
I enjoyed this - 24/08/2017 08:19:50 PM 796 Views
Kind of a "here is why we are screwed" *NM* - 24/08/2017 08:51:00 PM 492 Views
Because from what you've written and said - 25/08/2017 06:28:46 PM 780 Views
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. - 24/08/2017 10:53:44 PM 654 Views
Yes. You would. - 25/08/2017 01:06:47 AM 792 Views
We'll make a conservative of you yet. - 25/08/2017 02:36:01 PM 690 Views
I am unsurprised at your disagreement. - 25/08/2017 06:42:32 PM 743 Views
Re: I am unsurprised at your disagreement. - 25/08/2017 11:01:56 PM 753 Views
Well now, this will get into the meaning of truth. - 26/08/2017 01:04:14 AM 580 Views
Re: Well now, this will get into the meaning of truth. - 26/08/2017 01:16:56 AM 859 Views
I hope you don't mind me butting in on your conversation - 26/08/2017 01:46:45 AM 668 Views
Guilty as charged. - 26/08/2017 08:27:45 PM 728 Views
I'm a moderate/centrist insofar as the fact that I'm neither an overall leftist or rightist. - 25/08/2017 03:24:12 PM 631 Views
You know that communists are technically anti-statists, right? - 25/08/2017 03:57:37 PM 751 Views
Communism is an economic system. - 25/08/2017 06:55:26 PM 714 Views
It's more than that if you adopt an orthodox Marxist view. - 25/08/2017 11:07:03 PM 658 Views
Your argument sounded like this: - 27/08/2017 03:20:43 PM 933 Views
You believe in personal rights/freedoms. - 25/08/2017 06:49:30 PM 695 Views

Reply to Message