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As if there wasn't enough getting and not getting in this thread already. Pick one! Legolas Send a noteboard - 27/09/2017 12:13:13 AM

View original postThere are two politicians who made the world a worse place.

You realize those are not actually facts. They're opinions which you'd probably have to put rather more effort into convincing people of.
View original postObama with his red line. Basically gave half of Ukraine to Russia and Syria and Lebanon to Iran. And Iraq and Yemen too I guess.

I won't say the US and the EU got Ukraine right, but I will say that I'm not sure what they were supposed to have done instead. If you are, perhaps you could enlighten me.

Yemen - believe it or not, but rather a lot of people feel that the Saudis are the bad guys there at least as much as the Houthis and Iran, if not much more so. As indeed in the Middle East in general. After all, the Saudis are the ones murdering their own citizens just for being Shi'ites. Not that Iran doesn't murder its own citizens, but not simply for being Sunni.

View original postMerkel with her insane migrant policy.

Whether or not her policy was insane, how precisely is this supposed to have made the world (as opposed to Germany alone) a worse place?
View original postBut those same media outlets who harp on Rouhani being the adult gave them a pass for those huge blunders.

They've certainly taken plenty of criticisms over the decisions they made. They didn't call them 'huge blunders', no, but that's because they weren't - the decisions may not have been the right decisions, that's certainly up for debate, but it wasn't that obvious what they should've done instead.

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Almost missed this reply, hiding down here. aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 09:40:41 PM 583 Views
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Re: You said something similar a while back. And really, I just don't get it. Cannoli - 22/09/2017 11:59:19 PM 609 Views
He was in town today, stumping for Luther Strange aerocontrols - 23/09/2017 03:58:49 AM 621 Views
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