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One or two days would defeat your purpose? damookster Send a noteboard - 02/10/2017 08:15:49 PM

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These aren't isolated incidents.

Is an extra two days going to make it any easier on the people who lost loved ones? Are the people who don't want it politicized going to have changed their minds after two days?


It might make more people here willing to engage in dialogue. I doubt if anyone who was there or lost loved ones frequents this website. Nor is it likely that a post on RAFO is going to have any impact whatsoever on either policy or public opinion. But if you'd like to think so, knock yourself out.

Mook

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The US is now 273/275 for mass shootings this year! TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 06:07:38 PM 1884 Views
Perhaps we could also wait for the bodies to get cold before politicizing a tragedy? *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 07:11:18 PM 513 Views
Indeed. LiterateDog - 02/10/2017 07:32:41 PM 811 Views
yes. damookster - 02/10/2017 07:41:15 PM 829 Views
Well, to be fair, dude ain't got no crown. LiterateDog - 02/10/2017 07:43:31 PM 830 Views
I suppose lack of a crown could be disconcerting damookster - 02/10/2017 07:47:46 PM 859 Views
Does that mean uncircumcised? Tom - 02/10/2017 09:16:23 PM 761 Views
Same here. Tom - 02/10/2017 09:15:29 PM 857 Views
No. It's a willful failure of policy, just like the last thousands times. We fucking can't. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:47:16 PM 832 Views
Yes.You.Could. damookster - 02/10/2017 07:49:17 PM 845 Views
Because not politicizing the first thousand worked so well... TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:52:09 PM 848 Views
Really? damookster - 02/10/2017 07:55:22 PM 812 Views
How much time is "enough time" exactly? Just until the next one so the clock can reset? *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:01:51 PM 478 Views
double post for emphasis. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 07:49:17 PM 521 Views
Oh and "also"? That comment was preemptively aimed at the very sentiment you were expressing. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:54:12 PM 507 Views
It failed. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 07:56:19 PM 486 Views
Then you misunderstood it's purpose. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:58:15 PM 496 Views
doubtful. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:00:38 PM 714 Views
The dick move is the continual inaction and call for silence. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:05:24 PM 797 Views
One or two days would defeat your purpose? damookster - 02/10/2017 08:15:49 PM 873 Views
And what if someone goes out an shoots another 50+ people tomorrow? TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:18:31 PM 764 Views
Your post on a website with 100 active users would prevent that? *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:22:25 PM 491 Views
Just another argument aimed at silencing discussion *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:27:27 PM 480 Views
If you want discussion how about making specific points or suggestions? damookster - 02/10/2017 08:31:09 PM 802 Views
Stop attempting to prevent discourse because it offends your sensibilities. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:39:47 PM 817 Views
oh fuck off damookster - 02/10/2017 08:45:05 PM 816 Views
Oh please, the problem isn't a lack of ideas. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:04:18 PM 778 Views
You do realize that the guns used in Las Vegas may have already been illegal. damookster - 02/10/2017 09:14:47 PM 794 Views
Or it may have been modified with a completely legal $95 stock TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:30:44 PM 752 Views
Multiple firearm experts here have stated that audio analysis makes it unlikely... damookster - 02/10/2017 09:42:20 PM 809 Views
Re: Multiple firearm experts here have stated that audio analysis makes it unlikely... TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:53:23 PM 831 Views
People who go to the bother of obtaining illegal weapons in order to kill people... damookster - 02/10/2017 09:59:52 PM 788 Views
That is why you limit access to them. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:21:32 PM 466 Views
It should be noted.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:13:19 PM 785 Views
All the more reason for federal regulation on the matter *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:20:49 PM 490 Views
The federal law wouldn't do much more.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:33:46 PM 823 Views
And because a law only makes a problem slightly better TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:40:00 PM 787 Views
And that would be the difference between you and me.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:45:13 PM 801 Views
You sail in the ocean blind long enough and eventually you hit an iceberg. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:51:24 PM 817 Views
Again.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:07:20 PM 813 Views
If there's an average of 1 per day, when are we not mourning? nossy - 02/10/2017 08:03:46 PM 803 Views
How about when we have better and more complete information, for one? damookster - 02/10/2017 08:11:18 PM 743 Views
A 64 year old man walked into a hotel with 10 guns TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:17:24 PM 860 Views
Which hypothesis? *NM* nossy - 02/10/2017 08:20:51 PM 491 Views
The United States has an unaddressed problem with firearm violence. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:23:28 PM 511 Views
I agree with that premise. *NM* nossy - 02/10/2017 08:26:58 PM 471 Views
I will always agree with that, nossy - 02/10/2017 08:19:58 PM 830 Views
That was my point. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:24:56 PM 896 Views
Eh, well nossy - 02/10/2017 08:31:43 PM 791 Views
how about something a little more tangible than "your country has a problem?" *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:33:13 PM 530 Views
jeez, twice in one thread. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:33:13 PM 470 Views
Weirdly, I also agree with this nossy - 02/10/2017 08:42:26 PM 724 Views
See Roland00's reply. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:47:57 PM 719 Views
Again nossy - 02/10/2017 08:59:44 PM 739 Views
Nobody said "your country is stupid" TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:06:54 PM 752 Views
The "other side" is trying to use the emotions of the moment to pass things they couldn't otherwise random thoughts - 03/10/2017 11:57:38 AM 793 Views
Lets postpone the discussion to 10/10 Roland00 - 02/10/2017 08:36:57 PM 819 Views
I have no problem with discussion. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:40:43 PM 781 Views
But, but, you lose a news cycle that way! Tom - 02/10/2017 09:14:19 PM 779 Views
"And we wonder why we have shootings like this at all..." TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:40:40 PM 733 Views
Wow step away from the spicy nachos Tom *NM* Roland00 - 02/10/2017 09:51:00 PM 551 Views
Make that 274, 3 people dead and 2 wounded in Lawrence. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:22:21 PM 776 Views
So what you would you say the solution would be? Jeordam - 02/10/2017 08:50:54 PM 797 Views
Exactly. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:52:53 PM 433 Views
Any number of the dozens of pieces of legislation that is proposed *every time* this happens TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:11:26 PM 881 Views
And yet, almost every time shootings happen, none of those measures would have done anything. Tom - 02/10/2017 09:22:51 PM 808 Views
Speculation and ignored macro-effects TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:39:30 PM 785 Views
An honest Question Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:06:16 PM 745 Views
The second amendment is part of the problem. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:30:21 PM 504 Views
And now you just lost... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:39:21 PM 806 Views
Oh the fight is already won TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:50:00 PM 805 Views
I would disagree.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:09:36 PM 786 Views
I don't think you're very educated as to Second Amendment jurisprudence. Ghavrel - 03/10/2017 12:13:27 AM 881 Views
Why let silly things like facts get in the way of a good polemic? damookster - 03/10/2017 01:24:24 AM 823 Views
And it's difficult to overstate how much they advanced its reach. Ghavrel - 03/10/2017 04:31:58 AM 808 Views
Yes I actually knew that damookster - 03/10/2017 04:37:40 AM 848 Views
Re: Yes I actually knew that Ghavrel - 03/10/2017 09:18:08 AM 800 Views
Question for you Ghav but also for any other RAFOite Roland00 - 03/10/2017 06:51:47 AM 848 Views
It's likely the Ferguson Effect. *NM* Tom - 03/10/2017 09:47:42 PM 454 Views
with a corresponding rise in gang activity and violence *NM* damookster - 03/10/2017 10:07:18 PM 483 Views
This too needs to be studied the Ferguson Effect Roland00 - 03/10/2017 10:43:02 PM 957 Views
It was, before they first started putting limitations on it TheCrownless - 04/10/2017 05:35:27 AM 907 Views
What court cases do you think are examples of the trend constricting the 2nd Amendment? *NM* Ghavrel - 04/10/2017 05:48:41 AM 447 Views
some of these would never fly here damookster - 02/10/2017 10:14:57 PM 814 Views
And just to say it.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:18:06 PM 812 Views
Re: some of these would never fly here TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:37:24 PM 859 Views
some of these would never fly here damookster - 02/10/2017 10:14:57 PM 725 Views
So let's work through these... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:02:09 PM 908 Views
Post to my own post.....wow *NM* Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:02:19 PM 455 Views
Re: So let's work through these... TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:20:08 PM 834 Views
Ok...let's talk Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:32:58 PM 792 Views
Re: Ok...let's talk TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 11:02:44 PM 1070 Views
Dialogue....good. Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:17:46 PM 800 Views
Just what kind of reaction did you expect to get with a post like this? Legolas - 02/10/2017 10:10:34 PM 822 Views
For people to think about the problem rather than token sympathies. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:28:59 PM 867 Views
And the proof for that is....? *NM* Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:41:29 PM 493 Views
Killing people is the whole point of guns. The real issue is who gets killed. Cannoli - 02/10/2017 10:55:59 PM 877 Views
No use putting someone in prison if you don't lock the door after them *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 11:04:12 PM 463 Views
But after they get out.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:39:39 PM 778 Views
I don't think you're going about it in a very smart way, then. Legolas - 03/10/2017 12:23:33 AM 935 Views
It's never the right occasion to start talking about it. TheCrownless - 04/10/2017 05:39:15 AM 747 Views
But he was offering Candy, how can you say no to Candy? *NM* Roland00 - 02/10/2017 10:31:24 PM 504 Views
I was going to make a post to this effect, but you preempted me. I agree 100%. Ghavrel - 02/10/2017 11:15:21 PM 819 Views
Re: The US is now 273/275 for mass shootings this year! Nargs - 03/10/2017 12:58:31 AM 813 Views
Oh please TheCrownless - 04/10/2017 05:36:12 AM 768 Views
it is like the time buses were exploding in Israel, except it is Americans who are doing it AgentApple - 03/10/2017 06:19:56 PM 922 Views
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