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Yes, you know how to make weasely arguments. You went to law school. They taught you well. Just stop, though. Stop. Now. You know there is no inherent truth in the arguments you're making. Reading a work of literature is nothing like hearing loud fireworks going off. In fact, the Army has soldiers read Ajax to show them that PTSD existed in the ancient world. Psychiatrists and psychologists are pretty uniform in arguing against avoidance as therapy. You know better. Stop the sophistry and just return to reality.

You dont' know shit what you are talking about, so lets talk first about the bad faith arguement you just made where you said Ghavrel should not talk about this for he went to law school and is not studying Psychology. Instead of addressing his arguments you are making an arguement he is not allowed to talk about this for he does not have the proper credentials in your mind.

Well the same applies to you, you fucking hypocrite!

(Yes I brought this conversation up to 11.) But that is what happens you start making bad faith arguements and attacking people's ethical character on stuff like credentials and such.

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But the meat of this post is you are lying either because you are lying or you do not know what you are talking about out of ignorance. Literally the same thing you just accused Ghavrel of.


Psychiatrists and psychologists are pretty uniform in arguing against avoidance as therapy. You know better. Stop the sophistry and just return to reality.

No that is not what the psychologists and psychiatrist and such are arguing with trigger warnings. Trigger warnings are not meant to make students in class avoid subject matters. Instead it is about telling the student before hand we are going to cover X topic, and you need to have a support system such as your therapist number on file, a succide hotline, etc. This is because people who have PTSD sometimes do not make the best decisions (and many with PTSD do make the best decisions) but where a bad experience can trigger a succide, or them dropping out of class and instead of getting real help they self destruct in their dorm rooms and so on. Yes their behavior is not rational, but that is why they have an anxiety disorder, ptsd, etc for human beings are not always perfectly rational characters that always exercise our best judgement.

How many people have you know in your real life that suffer PTSD or had a traumatic incident like a rape? I know my number, and I also know people I never met in real life that are RAFOites / Wotmaniacs.

Go Fuck Yourself Tom, for assuming only your life experience matters and you get to tell other people to go fuck yourself.

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