Active Users:186 Time:30/04/2024 03:08:55 PM
Fuck you Tom Roland00 Send a noteboard - 19/10/2017 07:06:47 AM

View original post
Yes, you know how to make weasely arguments. You went to law school. They taught you well. Just stop, though. Stop. Now. You know there is no inherent truth in the arguments you're making. Reading a work of literature is nothing like hearing loud fireworks going off. In fact, the Army has soldiers read Ajax to show them that PTSD existed in the ancient world. Psychiatrists and psychologists are pretty uniform in arguing against avoidance as therapy. You know better. Stop the sophistry and just return to reality.

You dont' know shit what you are talking about, so lets talk first about the bad faith arguement you just made where you said Ghavrel should not talk about this for he went to law school and is not studying Psychology. Instead of addressing his arguments you are making an arguement he is not allowed to talk about this for he does not have the proper credentials in your mind.

Well the same applies to you, you fucking hypocrite!

(Yes I brought this conversation up to 11.) But that is what happens you start making bad faith arguements and attacking people's ethical character on stuff like credentials and such.

----




But the meat of this post is you are lying either because you are lying or you do not know what you are talking about out of ignorance. Literally the same thing you just accused Ghavrel of.


Psychiatrists and psychologists are pretty uniform in arguing against avoidance as therapy. You know better. Stop the sophistry and just return to reality.

No that is not what the psychologists and psychiatrist and such are arguing with trigger warnings. Trigger warnings are not meant to make students in class avoid subject matters. Instead it is about telling the student before hand we are going to cover X topic, and you need to have a support system such as your therapist number on file, a succide hotline, etc. This is because people who have PTSD sometimes do not make the best decisions (and many with PTSD do make the best decisions) but where a bad experience can trigger a succide, or them dropping out of class and instead of getting real help they self destruct in their dorm rooms and so on. Yes their behavior is not rational, but that is why they have an anxiety disorder, ptsd, etc for human beings are not always perfectly rational characters that always exercise our best judgement.

How many people have you know in your real life that suffer PTSD or had a traumatic incident like a rape? I know my number, and I also know people I never met in real life that are RAFOites / Wotmaniacs.

Go Fuck Yourself Tom, for assuming only your life experience matters and you get to tell other people to go fuck yourself.

Reply to message
Why Are [SOME] Millennials Wary of Freedom? - 16/10/2017 07:16:47 PM 2188 Views
Good article. - 16/10/2017 08:05:48 PM 751 Views
Indeed it is a pathology of fear. - 17/10/2017 01:59:24 AM 694 Views
This makes me especially sad. - 17/10/2017 12:47:51 PM 627 Views
never thought of it that way but excellent points *NM* - 17/10/2017 03:31:51 AM 496 Views
Definitely a possibility. - 17/10/2017 12:46:42 PM 616 Views
Do we still have WSE points? I was quite the mogul in the waning days of WoTmania. *NM* - 16/10/2017 11:36:00 PM 436 Views
/me steals your WSE points. *NM* - 17/10/2017 12:48:08 PM 401 Views
Interesting - 16/10/2017 11:46:32 PM 676 Views
Old dude, you make a good point, too. - 17/10/2017 02:01:29 AM 635 Views
Authority for Authority sake is just as Mores-less as No Respect for Authority - 17/10/2017 06:07:15 AM 711 Views
All generations experienced different cultures with different views *NM* - 17/10/2017 11:41:40 AM 410 Views
Agreed but there is a difference in severity between 1997 to 2017 vs 997 to 1017 *NM* - 18/10/2017 05:52:14 AM 418 Views
but less than 1900 vs 1920 - 18/10/2017 02:27:59 PM 599 Views
I still have hope - 17/10/2017 12:50:35 PM 698 Views
I shall endeavor to combine Tom'n'Mookie's theories into one grand theory of... - 17/10/2017 02:15:48 AM 660 Views
This article agrees with your assessment - 17/10/2017 02:30:03 PM 726 Views
I appreciate your amendment. - 17/10/2017 03:14:19 AM 899 Views
no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - 17/10/2017 11:51:08 AM 631 Views
Re: no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - uh, yes. - 17/10/2017 01:44:26 PM 650 Views
Most of us are very good at that - 17/10/2017 08:24:50 PM 654 Views
Thanks. - 17/10/2017 01:00:42 PM 590 Views
I disagree with relation to trigger warnings. - 17/10/2017 11:17:45 PM 657 Views
A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them? - 18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM 621 Views
I don't know, but I'm not entirely sure it's a big deal either way. - 18/10/2017 02:56:09 AM 581 Views
Nods - 18/10/2017 03:17:17 AM 586 Views
And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. - 18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM 752 Views
Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. - 18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM 653 Views
How would you propose such warnings be worded? - 18/10/2017 09:21:02 PM 635 Views
Do you know a lot of people who suffer from PTSD? - 19/10/2017 05:26:06 AM 787 Views
Stop. Now. - 19/10/2017 06:21:13 AM 589 Views
Avoidance isn't the purpose of those warnings, though. - 19/10/2017 06:32:16 AM 610 Views
You would ruin the literature though. And discussions around the literature. - 19/10/2017 01:21:20 PM 650 Views
That's reasonable. - 19/10/2017 11:58:56 PM 617 Views
Well argument settled becuase they already exist - 23/10/2017 01:46:55 PM 548 Views
Fuck you Tom - 19/10/2017 07:06:47 AM 736 Views
Oh come on... - 19/10/2017 05:12:46 PM 636 Views
Oh please - 19/10/2017 02:10:11 PM 715 Views
Re: Oh please - 20/10/2017 12:01:02 AM 669 Views
I'm just gonna put this out there... - 20/10/2017 07:24:55 PM 619 Views
Eh, I don't think that's accurate. - 21/10/2017 07:04:58 AM 557 Views
An unnecessary tool.... - 23/10/2017 05:14:06 PM 563 Views
Why does this reasoning apply to PTSD but not to other diseases? PTSD is a physical issue. - 24/10/2017 12:33:31 AM 582 Views
I would challenge that statment.... - 24/10/2017 05:14:17 PM 736 Views
Do you actually believe those examples are valid? *NM* - 23/10/2017 07:32:59 PM 375 Views
Agreed. - 19/10/2017 06:16:33 AM 719 Views
Interesting article. - 17/10/2017 07:41:34 PM 649 Views
Why are some HUMANS wary of freedom? - 17/10/2017 05:31:04 AM 594 Views
Maybe the victimhood thing is another kind of honor - 17/10/2017 01:02:43 PM 669 Views
Because it's easier to absolve oneself of power sometimes. For those people anyway. - 17/10/2017 01:10:41 PM 604 Views
I apologize before hand - 18/10/2017 01:11:59 AM 580 Views
I haven't read all the comments, so I apologize if I'm doubling up - 17/10/2017 01:06:00 PM 750 Views
Oh those echo chambers. - 17/10/2017 01:16:40 PM 691 Views
I hate blaming things - 17/10/2017 02:04:44 PM 703 Views
I'm not even sure "echo chamber" is the right phrase - 17/10/2017 02:17:07 PM 709 Views
I'm not sure that is the most common choice. - 17/10/2017 05:21:52 PM 740 Views
I get irritated too. But I still keep them in my news feed as well. - 17/10/2017 08:49:45 PM 605 Views
Je ne regrette rien. My memes are both spicy and piquant. *NM* - 17/10/2017 11:20:55 PM 368 Views
I'm of Russian extraction. I like my food bland. Garlic, dill, salt, pepper. It's enough for me. - 18/10/2017 12:52:27 AM 599 Views
You know, I'd not thought about that. - 18/10/2017 03:07:05 AM 648 Views
I find him intriguing as a Captain. - 18/10/2017 01:09:07 PM 586 Views
So now we are at episode 6 - 24/10/2017 12:31:06 PM 532 Views
6 was by far the best episode of the series. *NM* - 24/10/2017 08:07:55 PM 383 Views
Yes - 25/10/2017 12:50:15 PM 602 Views
But are your Memes brothy and fully of Umami? - 18/10/2017 01:17:07 AM 539 Views
Umami is an irritating word *NM* - 18/10/2017 04:59:21 PM 346 Views
Yes, ohdaddy is a much better word. *NM* - 18/10/2017 05:15:48 PM 432 Views
*NM* - 18/10/2017 05:39:12 PM 372 Views
*NM* - 18/10/2017 06:27:31 PM 361 Views
I do think some of this is specifically American and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere. - 17/10/2017 06:26:33 PM 653 Views
Agreed with all your points. - 17/10/2017 08:53:23 PM 632 Views
The Netherlands, I'm not so sure about. - 17/10/2017 11:43:54 PM 619 Views
My apologies. I see Dutch and don't think of Belgium. - 18/10/2017 12:56:26 AM 618 Views
That's alright. This is a confusing country in many ways. - 18/10/2017 08:58:15 PM 611 Views
America and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere puts a higher valuer on liberty *NM* - 19/10/2017 01:53:50 PM 393 Views
Yes, in some ways it does. *NM* - 19/10/2017 05:38:41 PM 412 Views
Simple, true fredom is includes the freedom to fail - 20/10/2017 05:43:13 PM 661 Views
Re: Simple, true fredom is/includes the freedom to fail *NM* - 20/10/2017 05:45:51 PM 436 Views
Yes it is the freedom to fail - 20/10/2017 06:36:02 PM 650 Views
This entire thread was so awesome.... - 20/10/2017 07:12:46 PM 710 Views
Jeo I think you in particular will appreciate this - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 623 Views
Interesting.....wisdom from on high.... - 20/10/2017 09:58:36 PM 554 Views
damn it *NM* - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 342 Views
I think a lot of us are thinking about trigger warnings differently. - 21/10/2017 07:07:01 AM 631 Views
Maybe, maybe not... - 23/10/2017 05:18:16 PM 532 Views
Glad you enjoyed it and that it provoked thought. - 23/10/2017 02:32:57 PM 603 Views
I see this as... - 23/10/2017 05:23:54 PM 585 Views
I kind of break them down into two types - 22/10/2017 03:25:04 AM 686 Views
I wonder how much the fall of communism has to do with this? - 24/10/2017 10:20:16 PM 662 Views
Definitely more than a bit. - 25/10/2017 12:51:55 PM 552 Views

Reply to Message