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The Pope is only infallible in certain situations. TyrReborn Send a noteboard - 11/12/2017 10:40:28 PM


"enjoys in virtue of his office, when, as the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful, who confirms his brethren in their faith (Luke 22:32), he proclaims by a definitive act some doctrine of faith or morals. Therefore his definitions, of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church, are justly held irreformable, for they are pronounced with the assistance of the Holy Spirit, an assistance promised to him in blessed Peter."

https://www.catholic.com/tract/papal-infallibility

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Pope Francis must be declared a heretic and burned. Tom - 09/12/2017 03:14:16 AM 1853 Views
Oooh, theodicy. Legolas - 09/12/2017 03:28:21 AM 977 Views
Well, God "hardened Pharaoh's heart" a couple of times. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/12/2017 09:22:05 AM 516 Views
That’s a much better song too *NM* Tom - 10/12/2017 02:05:04 PM 603 Views
That was just so he could murder all their sons and prove he is awesome. random thoughts - 11/12/2017 09:24:16 PM 935 Views
Never heard that one. The Trainspotting song “Temptation” is much better (Crowded House sucks) *NM* Tom - 10/12/2017 02:02:37 PM 557 Views
Auto-da-fé, what's an auto-da-fé? It's what you oughtn't to do but you do anyway! *NM* Roland00 - 09/12/2017 03:55:47 AM 589 Views
Revelation 22:18, 19 damookster - 09/12/2017 07:02:55 PM 849 Views
Does it have to be fire? I do not like the smell of burnt human flesh. Is it okay with the council Roland00 - 09/12/2017 11:55:31 PM 822 Views
Only fire can purify the stain of heresy. *NM* damookster - 10/12/2017 01:21:58 AM 612 Views
We have to burn you for blasphemy by comparing Francis to Christ Tom - 10/12/2017 02:04:04 PM 858 Views
I just find this deeply ironic that is all *NM* Roland00 - 10/12/2017 08:35:26 PM 541 Views
I'll search for an Italian transcript later, but... Larry - 10/12/2017 03:10:06 PM 1057 Views
It's not subjunctive per se. It's a negative imperative, damnit. Tom - 11/12/2017 02:11:53 AM 906 Views
I hadn't seen this post before I posted... TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 04:46:07 AM 842 Views
It's been 23 years since my last Latin class Larry - 11/12/2017 04:48:54 AM 1018 Views
My mother and a family friend priest drove by today... TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 04:38:49 AM 909 Views
It's because it's *not* a translation issue, and Francis is deceiving the faithful. Tom - 11/12/2017 05:46:27 AM 884 Views
And what the fuck is wrong with this website? I didn't indent numbers and I used 1, 2, 3, 4 Tom - 11/12/2017 05:47:42 AM 960 Views
Incidentally, the numbers showed up accurately in my response while quoting, so who knows? *NM* TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 07:12:44 AM 568 Views
For the record, I'm not saying you're wrong... TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 07:11:59 AM 874 Views
You know, now that I think about it, Job isn't a good reference. TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 07:21:13 AM 1011 Views
Tom is correct, but let me make the argument that the Pope is right Roland00 - 11/12/2017 08:49:35 PM 1207 Views
If it is not a translation problem (and it isn't), then the Pope is changing the words of Christ Tom - 12/12/2017 03:43:50 PM 887 Views
I've read that "heresy" comes from words meaning 'to cut' or else to 'seize or take away' Cannoli - 12/12/2017 03:56:19 PM 910 Views
Re: If it is not a translation problem (and it isn't), then the Pope is changing the words of Christ TyrReborn - 12/12/2017 06:24:58 PM 894 Views
The vicar of Christ doesn't get to change the words of Christ. damookster - 11/12/2017 08:12:22 AM 968 Views
Fair enough. *NM* TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 05:44:46 PM 537 Views
but he is infallible ???? random thoughts - 11/12/2017 09:22:02 PM 856 Views
The Pope is only infallible in certain situations. TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 10:40:28 PM 899 Views
Link not working for you? *NM* random thoughts - 12/12/2017 12:44:23 AM 573 Views
Yes, and thankfully he wasn't making a proclamation ex cathedra. Tom - 12/12/2017 01:09:25 AM 866 Views
I mean...I love me some theology... Jeordam - 11/12/2017 10:56:34 PM 942 Views
The problem is that I don't think he was thinking at all Tom - 13/12/2017 06:22:14 PM 807 Views
No arguments here Cannoli - 12/12/2017 03:51:59 PM 868 Views
Well, I needed to at least mention the Orthodoxy-Catholicism split Tom - 12/12/2017 05:01:54 PM 977 Views
Can't you just depose him. The Shrike - 13/12/2017 05:49:59 PM 822 Views
I could, but where's the fun in that? Tom - 13/12/2017 06:20:18 PM 940 Views
Because he would have to live with being deposed. The Shrike - 13/12/2017 07:05:35 PM 838 Views
As Stalin said, Нет человека, нет проблемы Tom - 13/12/2017 09:06:44 PM 912 Views
Like fire / Hellfire / This fire in my skin / This burning / Desire / Is turning me to sin *NM* Roland00 - 13/12/2017 09:21:16 PM 629 Views
How about we just send him to Avignon. The Shrike - 13/12/2017 11:31:25 PM 889 Views
If we send him in a soundproof box so all he can do is waive endlessly, sure! Tom - 14/12/2017 12:32:04 AM 905 Views
Schrodinger's Pope(s)? *NM* Roland00 - 15/12/2017 10:01:35 PM 517 Views
That would be fun. No one would know if he's alive or dead. *NM* Tom - 16/12/2017 03:50:13 AM 494 Views
Waive endlessly? Larry - 18/12/2017 03:06:39 AM 1013 Views
It's the consequence of writing this in between contract revisions Tom - 18/12/2017 02:52:15 PM 1065 Views
I've had that happen before, minus the contract legalese Larry - 20/12/2017 03:43:50 AM 876 Views
music to burn heretics by... damookster - 13/12/2017 10:44:51 PM 1011 Views
That is truly obscure Tom - 14/12/2017 12:39:43 AM 845 Views
It could be worse, my favorite 2 christmas albums are Roland00 - 14/12/2017 03:25:38 AM 860 Views
Sounds like your father was a wise man *NM* random thoughts - 14/12/2017 12:54:20 PM 546 Views
And he's still going nearly 50 years later... Simon - 16/12/2017 02:32:41 PM 1689 Views
That’s amazing. He’s still crazy. *NM* damookster - 16/12/2017 03:31:36 PM 530 Views
Agreed. *NM* Simon - 01/01/2018 01:59:14 PM 1086 Views
I'd like to thank everyone who replied to get the folder on fire. It adds a je ne sais quoi to it. *NM* Tom - 19/12/2017 05:10:02 PM 537 Views
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