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I've had that happen before, minus the contract legalese Larry Send a noteboard - 20/12/2017 03:43:50 AM

View original postThe agreement did have a lot of waivers. I'm still trying to get it finalized today because the other side is being unconscionably obnoxious and my clients aren't quite yet willing to say "take it or leave it".


View original postI don't have a problem with his position on divorce, particularly since the Pope could just bring the Western church into conformity with the Eastern church and allow up to 3 marriages due to permitting up to 2 divorces on a "for fault" basis (i.e., none of this no-fault divorce crap that we now have in US law). I don't have a problem with his statements on not denying gays communion, either - that's not the proper role of the Church.

That's pretty much my view on those matters.


View original postI have serious issues with his fuzzy stance on Liberation Theology, which is squarely at odds with the Church and the Scripture.

I'll admit some elements of Liberation Theology appeal to me, but that's the remnants of my socialist young adulthood. I believe the role of the Church is not to become rooted in materialistic concerns, unless those jibe with the eternal mission of the Church. Some seem to forget this.

Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Pope Francis must be declared a heretic and burned. Tom - 09/12/2017 03:14:16 AM 1964 Views
Oooh, theodicy. Legolas - 09/12/2017 03:28:21 AM 1059 Views
Well, God "hardened Pharaoh's heart" a couple of times. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/12/2017 09:22:05 AM 564 Views
That’s a much better song too *NM* Tom - 10/12/2017 02:05:04 PM 654 Views
That was just so he could murder all their sons and prove he is awesome. random thoughts - 11/12/2017 09:24:16 PM 1014 Views
Never heard that one. The Trainspotting song “Temptation” is much better (Crowded House sucks) *NM* Tom - 10/12/2017 02:02:37 PM 603 Views
Auto-da-fé, what's an auto-da-fé? It's what you oughtn't to do but you do anyway! *NM* Roland00 - 09/12/2017 03:55:47 AM 633 Views
Revelation 22:18, 19 damookster - 09/12/2017 07:02:55 PM 939 Views
Does it have to be fire? I do not like the smell of burnt human flesh. Is it okay with the council Roland00 - 09/12/2017 11:55:31 PM 889 Views
Only fire can purify the stain of heresy. *NM* damookster - 10/12/2017 01:21:58 AM 670 Views
We have to burn you for blasphemy by comparing Francis to Christ Tom - 10/12/2017 02:04:04 PM 941 Views
I just find this deeply ironic that is all *NM* Roland00 - 10/12/2017 08:35:26 PM 590 Views
I'll search for an Italian transcript later, but... Larry - 10/12/2017 03:10:06 PM 1129 Views
It's not subjunctive per se. It's a negative imperative, damnit. Tom - 11/12/2017 02:11:53 AM 980 Views
I hadn't seen this post before I posted... TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 04:46:07 AM 917 Views
It's been 23 years since my last Latin class Larry - 11/12/2017 04:48:54 AM 1099 Views
My mother and a family friend priest drove by today... TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 04:38:49 AM 996 Views
It's because it's *not* a translation issue, and Francis is deceiving the faithful. Tom - 11/12/2017 05:46:27 AM 969 Views
And what the fuck is wrong with this website? I didn't indent numbers and I used 1, 2, 3, 4 Tom - 11/12/2017 05:47:42 AM 1037 Views
Incidentally, the numbers showed up accurately in my response while quoting, so who knows? *NM* TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 07:12:44 AM 615 Views
For the record, I'm not saying you're wrong... TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 07:11:59 AM 953 Views
You know, now that I think about it, Job isn't a good reference. TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 07:21:13 AM 1097 Views
Tom is correct, but let me make the argument that the Pope is right Roland00 - 11/12/2017 08:49:35 PM 1301 Views
If it is not a translation problem (and it isn't), then the Pope is changing the words of Christ Tom - 12/12/2017 03:43:50 PM 959 Views
I've read that "heresy" comes from words meaning 'to cut' or else to 'seize or take away' Cannoli - 12/12/2017 03:56:19 PM 979 Views
Re: If it is not a translation problem (and it isn't), then the Pope is changing the words of Christ TyrReborn - 12/12/2017 06:24:58 PM 965 Views
The vicar of Christ doesn't get to change the words of Christ. damookster - 11/12/2017 08:12:22 AM 1038 Views
Fair enough. *NM* TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 05:44:46 PM 587 Views
but he is infallible ???? random thoughts - 11/12/2017 09:22:02 PM 929 Views
The Pope is only infallible in certain situations. TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 10:40:28 PM 972 Views
Link not working for you? *NM* random thoughts - 12/12/2017 12:44:23 AM 625 Views
Yes, and thankfully he wasn't making a proclamation ex cathedra. Tom - 12/12/2017 01:09:25 AM 942 Views
I mean...I love me some theology... Jeordam - 11/12/2017 10:56:34 PM 1023 Views
The problem is that I don't think he was thinking at all Tom - 13/12/2017 06:22:14 PM 907 Views
No arguments here Cannoli - 12/12/2017 03:51:59 PM 952 Views
Well, I needed to at least mention the Orthodoxy-Catholicism split Tom - 12/12/2017 05:01:54 PM 1054 Views
Can't you just depose him. The Shrike - 13/12/2017 05:49:59 PM 888 Views
I could, but where's the fun in that? Tom - 13/12/2017 06:20:18 PM 1017 Views
Because he would have to live with being deposed. The Shrike - 13/12/2017 07:05:35 PM 913 Views
As Stalin said, Нет человека, нет проблемы Tom - 13/12/2017 09:06:44 PM 998 Views
Like fire / Hellfire / This fire in my skin / This burning / Desire / Is turning me to sin *NM* Roland00 - 13/12/2017 09:21:16 PM 676 Views
How about we just send him to Avignon. The Shrike - 13/12/2017 11:31:25 PM 964 Views
If we send him in a soundproof box so all he can do is waive endlessly, sure! Tom - 14/12/2017 12:32:04 AM 993 Views
Schrodinger's Pope(s)? *NM* Roland00 - 15/12/2017 10:01:35 PM 565 Views
That would be fun. No one would know if he's alive or dead. *NM* Tom - 16/12/2017 03:50:13 AM 553 Views
Waive endlessly? Larry - 18/12/2017 03:06:39 AM 1089 Views
It's the consequence of writing this in between contract revisions Tom - 18/12/2017 02:52:15 PM 1141 Views
I've had that happen before, minus the contract legalese Larry - 20/12/2017 03:43:50 AM 957 Views
music to burn heretics by... damookster - 13/12/2017 10:44:51 PM 1085 Views
That is truly obscure Tom - 14/12/2017 12:39:43 AM 931 Views
It could be worse, my favorite 2 christmas albums are Roland00 - 14/12/2017 03:25:38 AM 951 Views
Sounds like your father was a wise man *NM* random thoughts - 14/12/2017 12:54:20 PM 596 Views
And he's still going nearly 50 years later... Simon - 16/12/2017 02:32:41 PM 1760 Views
That’s amazing. He’s still crazy. *NM* damookster - 16/12/2017 03:31:36 PM 582 Views
Agreed. *NM* Simon - 01/01/2018 01:59:14 PM 1139 Views
I'd like to thank everyone who replied to get the folder on fire. It adds a je ne sais quoi to it. *NM* Tom - 19/12/2017 05:10:02 PM 617 Views
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