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Honest question fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 26/07/2018 05:50:38 PM

What, in the very comprehensive and interesting reply you gave, makes you question that Putin would want Trump to kowtow to him and weaken NATO?

Means and methods are yet to be proven conclusively, of course, but the motive for Russia to interfere to make sure Hillary doesn't win and Trump does is right there in your post. As is the motive for wanting to weaken NATO dramatically. So I'm a little confused at your argument that people are wrongly assuming they know what Putin wants. Seems pretty clear we don't see it differently, but you do have a more in-depth understanding of why he wants what he wants.

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trump is not the first US president to hand the white house to the russian government moondog - 17/07/2018 07:22:36 PM 1542 Views
It's amazing to me when so-called liberals use homophobic imagery to make their points. The Shrike - 17/07/2018 07:31:28 PM 992 Views
It is unusual, isn't it? But I'm sure it's "okay" because his agenda is "virtuous". *NM* Tom - 17/07/2018 08:01:12 PM 571 Views
They are like the white kid who thinks it is ok to use the n word because they have black friends *NM* random thoughts - 30/07/2018 05:58:44 PM 554 Views
What about Ted Kennedy's alleged 1984 request to Andropov to help him win the Presidency? Tom - 17/07/2018 07:59:12 PM 982 Views
This isn't based on the Steele dossier fionwe1987 - 17/07/2018 08:50:04 PM 971 Views
Hanlon's razor, really. Legolas - 17/07/2018 11:50:17 PM 1028 Views
It wouldn't be the first time. damookster - 17/07/2018 11:57:13 PM 889 Views
I just believe the stupidity came earlier fionwe1987 - 18/07/2018 12:09:20 AM 959 Views
Apparently you also believe Putin is equally stupid. damookster - 18/07/2018 12:15:29 AM 899 Views
Why? fionwe1987 - 18/07/2018 03:35:33 AM 904 Views
Obviously damookster - 18/07/2018 03:49:34 AM 980 Views
Oh please fionwe1987 - 18/07/2018 05:39:01 AM 900 Views
Mookie Roland00 - 18/07/2018 04:13:03 PM 945 Views
Well said. fionwe1987 - 18/07/2018 06:03:17 PM 946 Views
Notice how everyone claims to understand what Russia wants? Tom - 22/07/2018 05:55:44 AM 932 Views
What does Russia actually want? Anonymous2000 - 22/07/2018 04:15:07 PM 971 Views
To be treated and respected as a significant power Tom - 23/07/2018 04:20:26 PM 1035 Views
I don't think we have had a President who was any good at foreign policy since Nixon. damookster - 23/07/2018 06:00:55 PM 961 Views
Thanks, that was a very interesting read. Legolas - 23/07/2018 10:39:07 PM 937 Views
There are other countries other than the US and Russia, but... Tom - 24/07/2018 03:44:03 PM 968 Views
Outstanding read, I need some time to digest and then I will reply with some questions. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 23/07/2018 10:57:07 PM 568 Views
New questions..... Anonymous2000 - 24/07/2018 01:19:04 AM 963 Views
So many ways to answer this Roland00 - 24/07/2018 03:16:30 AM 1020 Views
That was a good answer. *NM* Tom - 24/07/2018 04:13:50 PM 551 Views
Yeltsin picked Putin due to his experience under Sobchak Tom - 24/07/2018 03:54:20 PM 988 Views
I'm surprised this thread hasn't attracted Joel out of hibernation just to dispute you. *NM* damookster - 24/07/2018 04:04:24 PM 571 Views
I would have no idea if he did. I blocked him. He's a complete moron. *NM* Tom - 24/07/2018 04:11:25 PM 587 Views
*Claps* well said. *NM* Roland00 - 24/07/2018 03:33:41 AM 544 Views
Honest question fionwe1987 - 26/07/2018 05:50:38 PM 1000 Views
Very interesting essay Tom. *NM* Simon - 31/07/2018 03:54:26 PM 1110 Views
Here is another interesting Russian History Summary (I would also like some Tom Feedback.) Roland00 - 29/07/2018 02:36:46 AM 1018 Views
If by "interesting" you mean shitty, then perhaps. Tom - 29/07/2018 03:54:34 PM 967 Views
I’ve always suspected... damookster - 22/07/2018 06:45:28 PM 871 Views
Of course Tom - 23/07/2018 04:22:32 PM 941 Views
Mental Shorthand Roland00 - 24/07/2018 03:20:05 AM 949 Views
And how about Obama trying to defeat Netanyahu a few years ago? Anonymous2000 - 18/07/2018 03:31:00 AM 898 Views
Hey, that was also Soros *NM* AgentApple - 18/07/2018 09:13:55 AM 532 Views
Oh look. Evidence-less claims and insulting imagery. What a surprise. *NM* TyrReborn - 17/07/2018 08:24:49 PM 546 Views
Not sure what the point of the homophobic imagery is... fionwe1987 - 17/07/2018 08:38:42 PM 966 Views
I don't read much news.... Jeordam - 17/07/2018 10:55:31 PM 907 Views
Re: I don't read much news.... fionwe1987 - 17/07/2018 11:17:01 PM 958 Views
Re: I don't read much news.... Cannoli - 18/07/2018 12:19:54 AM 957 Views
It appears you don't read much news either, Cannoli... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2018 06:23:12 AM 908 Views
I agree with everything you have said, barring one thing: Ghavrel - 20/07/2018 12:14:14 PM 944 Views
Hmm fionwe1987 - 21/07/2018 03:25:03 AM 901 Views
Re: Hmm Ghavrel - 21/07/2018 03:46:12 AM 928 Views
Re: Hmm fionwe1987 - 26/07/2018 05:58:19 PM 881 Views
We see the world differently.... Jeordam - 18/07/2018 11:08:27 PM 899 Views
Moondog be better than the NYT Opinion section please *NM* Roland00 - 18/07/2018 12:17:03 AM 516 Views
As opposed to the Presidents who did it to Stalin, the actual tyrant, complete with genocide & WMDs? Cannoli - 18/07/2018 12:47:57 AM 890 Views
moondog = *NM* damookster - 04/08/2018 05:52:18 PM 504 Views
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