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The drug war has caused a lot of collateral damage, yeah. Legolas Send a noteboard - 04/06/2020 09:37:43 PM

View original postI will clarify to say that I don't believe that there is no racism in the United States. There clearly is. But in my mind, most of the heavy lifting has been done. We're trying to clean up the edges now.

I sort of agree in the sense that the major injustices have been ended, both legally and socially - the country has come a long way in less than one lifetime. But finishing the job can still take a very long time - many generations - if too many people figure that it's basically done and requires no further effort, as the Republicans tend to.
View original postI will dispute some of your points about social mobility and wages. While real wages may not have gone up as much as in the past, the studies concluding there have been limited gains completely ignore other forms of compensation (e.g., health insurance). That's not to say everyone is benefiting, but most of those being "left behind" are, for the most part, suffering the consequences of their own poor life choices. They're also victims of horrible schools which see some of the highest funding in the world. We constantly hear about "underfunded" schools. But that's just another false narrative. Some of the worse performing schools/districts get the most money. More than is used in other nations. All thrown away for administrative bloat and excessive employee benefits.

I'd have to look into that about ignoring other forms of compensation - though anyway a large portion of workers doesn't get health insurance and other such benefits. Education is definitely a big driver in life outcomes for people, I agree better schools for kids from black/minority background could make a big difference. Though fixing underperforming schools is generally easier said than done...
View original postI propose 2 things that will greatly benefit the nation and the black community especially. Ending the drug war and eliminating all public employee unions. Most of the extra attention given to black people stems from the excesses of the drug war. End it. Save money, save lives, defund gangs, all with one action. Ending the public unions will prevent them from standing in the way of firing bad police and teachers and prevent them from standing in the way of reform. A win for everyone.

I'm not sure about the eliminating public employee unions part, I don't think I'd go that far. In the end, the way they aggressively defend their acquired privileges and benefits is no different from the way large corporations lobby to keep theirs, or the way billionaires basically buy politicians in order to protect their tax benefits or even reduce taxes further. They are certainly a pain in the ass in some ways though.
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I did indeed. - 09/06/2020 08:50:04 AM 673 Views
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