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I dunno if we're disagreeing, so much as talking about different things fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 15/09/2021 03:09:03 PM

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I have a little more faith in the majority of the American public than you. To illustrate, the QAnon whack jobs involved in Jan. 6th believed they were instigating The Storm. Much of the military and the majority of Americans would join them and sweep the baby eating, child raping, evil Illuminati conspirators out of office

I'm not talking about the American public at all. I'm talking about the fact that the Republican Party, and certainly Trump's cabinet, couldn't give a damn about broader public opinion. They care about the opinion of their base, the base that counts during primaries. They're captive to the interest and views of this base, and since Trump has such strong support with this base, he is immune to what 70% of the country thinks, except in a national election, and even then, his claim that he won resonated with that base to the point of insurrection.



Didn’t happen. Yeah the hard core Trump supporters still claim it was a legitimate protest and should have gone further but most of us were appalled.

And yet, the leadership in the Republican Party continues, across multiple states, to peddle that same claim again and again. You can be appalled, but if your anger cannot translate into broad electoral defeat for the Republicans, it won't matter.
And the Republicans are well insulated from your anger, and the anger of the majority of the public, due to multiple flaws in the structure of American democracy. Which is why your insistence that public anger will force the hand of Trump's cabinet is mystifying.
I believe if credible evidence was presented that Trump was about to order a war with China, at least 70% of the public would have been outraged. And that’s estimating high on the hard Right. You can certainly disagree and I respect that viewpoint.

But I don't disagree. I only disagree that that would change anything. 70% of the public has wanted a lot of things that the Republican Party couldn't give two hoots about.
My reason for asking this question was simple. I assumed that would be your answer. And I agree opposing the chief executive is the right action. But I also believe a man of honor doesn’t do so in the shadows. He owns his act and accepts the consequences. If that means arrest and loss of life, so be it. Own it publicly. Members of the military take an oath to defend the country and Constitution with their lives. I expect it’s the same in India.

Personal consequences can be accepted, but failure to stop said war couldn't be. And the fact remains, talking to China in advance and giving them assurances was way more likely to do that than a blind belief that American democracy will somehow rescue itself from the Trump virus, when it has consistently failed to do so in the past 4 years.
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