Active Users:330 Time:03/07/2025 02:30:15 PM
You also lived through Bush, right? entyti Send a noteboard - 25/08/2022 07:25:26 PM

View original postWatergate was the one time Nikon’s goons got caught and it was the coverup that did him in. He had been using his dirty tricks squad to harass and spy on his political enemies for years - and he had a long list of them. Gordon Liddy’s crews simply bugged people illegally, following a long tradition established by Nikon’s sometimes friend, sometimes foe J. Edgar Hoover.

Nixon ordered the IRS to audit anyone who crossed him. Likewise with any other Federal agency that could be weaponized. All this shit came out in the pages and pages of depositions and testimony, and in the Oval Office tapes. The only thing that prevented Nixon from not only being impeached but also easily convicted was his beating Congress to the punch by resigning.


Well you lived it, and would be more intimate with the way events played out. All of that does sound nasty. However looking at the outcomes, I would still have to disagree with you.

Engaging in criminal behavior is one thing. Legalizing criminal behavior something else. And then there's the debacle around 9/11, lying us into war in the Middle East, and being a proponent for the bank bailouts to add the mix. Oh, and all of this is barely even portrayed with any official criticism! A much superior cake of evil to the crepe of Nixon, if you ask me. Nixon was at least caught, resigned because of it, and it is universally proclaimed as a stain on his presidency.

However, I will grant you this: to do great evil, one must stand on the shoulders of giants.


To use an organized crime mixed metaphor, Trump is Bugsy Seigal. W was Fredo. Nixon was Meyer Lansky.

To my estimation, the mafia metaphor looks more like this (Warning: major Breaking Bad overreach to follow)
Nixon: Hector Salamanca before coma
Bush: Lalo Salamanca
Clinton/Obama: Don Eladio
Biden:Hector Salamanca after coma

Trump seems to me more like Walter White type: still evil, still playing the same shitty game, but an outsider who doesn't get along with anyone in the business.

Omnipresent Lurker of WoTMB
Proud and Open Rolan Sympathiser
Fan of Everything Tool
Eternal Shiva Enthusiast
Reply to message
Does everyone remember when Liz Cheney was a monster who betrayed her lesbian sister? - 20/08/2022 11:46:38 AM 431 Views
Cheney has a career 76% rating from all the major conservative organizations. - 20/08/2022 04:47:06 PM 244 Views
2024 - 22/08/2022 03:07:40 AM 244 Views
I find it somewhat disconcerting… - 22/08/2022 03:47:01 AM 222 Views
I find it reassuring! - 22/08/2022 04:45:22 AM 218 Views
Are you following the Utah Senate race? - 22/08/2022 07:25:39 PM 216 Views
Re: Are you following the Utah Senate race? - 22/08/2022 10:00:41 PM 198 Views
Yes - 20/08/2022 11:08:52 PM 232 Views
Yes, I'm pretty sure everyone does remember. - 21/08/2022 07:44:30 PM 213 Views
MTG - 22/08/2022 03:05:20 AM 199 Views
Trump was the best president in my lifetime! - 22/08/2022 11:23:27 PM 213 Views
I was born one month after Ike’s first election. - 23/08/2022 01:26:19 AM 204 Views
Not a fan of Reagan? - 23/08/2022 01:51:40 PM 199 Views
Re: Not a fan of Reagan? - 23/08/2022 08:38:40 PM 207 Views
Largest peacetime tax increase in history? Are you fucking on drugs yourself? - 26/08/2022 03:49:59 PM 221 Views
two things can both be true - 26/08/2022 05:11:13 PM 208 Views
I’d be hard-pressed to name one since before WWI - 24/08/2022 04:20:27 AM 204 Views
Actually I would put RMN at the bottom of my list of worst Presidents. - 24/08/2022 01:41:34 PM 196 Views
Really? I'm not even sure I'd rank Nixon below Bush. - 24/08/2022 07:34:18 PM 214 Views
I would - 24/08/2022 08:36:19 PM 203 Views
I must say I agree with Legolas on this... - 24/08/2022 11:45:34 PM 201 Views
You read about the Nixon years. I was in high school when he won in ‘68. - 25/08/2022 02:37:57 AM 210 Views
You also lived through Bush, right? - 25/08/2022 07:25:26 PM 230 Views
at least two of my three were historical characters *NM* - 25/08/2022 08:50:27 PM 97 Views
James Buchanan as worst. - 26/08/2022 01:24:42 PM 222 Views
In Weimar part II, loyalty to the Führer is paramount for many Republicans. - 23/08/2022 01:49:15 PM 208 Views
There was no Führer in the Weimar republic - 23/08/2022 08:07:51 PM 216 Views
Given that I have a Masters in German History, that is not the point. But thank you. - 24/08/2022 01:57:06 PM 234 Views
I thought I was replying to someone else, actually - 25/08/2022 02:31:22 AM 223 Views
No worries - 26/08/2022 01:19:23 PM 239 Views
Very interesting comparison *NM* - 26/08/2022 05:05:48 PM 118 Views

Reply to Message