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You also lived through Bush, right? entyti Send a noteboard - 25/08/2022 07:25:26 PM

View original postWatergate was the one time Nikon’s goons got caught and it was the coverup that did him in. He had been using his dirty tricks squad to harass and spy on his political enemies for years - and he had a long list of them. Gordon Liddy’s crews simply bugged people illegally, following a long tradition established by Nikon’s sometimes friend, sometimes foe J. Edgar Hoover.

Nixon ordered the IRS to audit anyone who crossed him. Likewise with any other Federal agency that could be weaponized. All this shit came out in the pages and pages of depositions and testimony, and in the Oval Office tapes. The only thing that prevented Nixon from not only being impeached but also easily convicted was his beating Congress to the punch by resigning.


Well you lived it, and would be more intimate with the way events played out. All of that does sound nasty. However looking at the outcomes, I would still have to disagree with you.

Engaging in criminal behavior is one thing. Legalizing criminal behavior something else. And then there's the debacle around 9/11, lying us into war in the Middle East, and being a proponent for the bank bailouts to add the mix. Oh, and all of this is barely even portrayed with any official criticism! A much superior cake of evil to the crepe of Nixon, if you ask me. Nixon was at least caught, resigned because of it, and it is universally proclaimed as a stain on his presidency.

However, I will grant you this: to do great evil, one must stand on the shoulders of giants.


To use an organized crime mixed metaphor, Trump is Bugsy Seigal. W was Fredo. Nixon was Meyer Lansky.

To my estimation, the mafia metaphor looks more like this (Warning: major Breaking Bad overreach to follow)
Nixon: Hector Salamanca before coma
Bush: Lalo Salamanca
Clinton/Obama: Don Eladio
Biden:Hector Salamanca after coma

Trump seems to me more like Walter White type: still evil, still playing the same shitty game, but an outsider who doesn't get along with anyone in the business.

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