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To be clear I didn't say it should be eliminated entirely, but as for what would happen if it was... Legolas Send a noteboard - 08/07/2024 10:50:57 PM

View original postWhen that direction is to thwart the will of cities like Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, LA, Chicago, and New York, I'm all for it. When those being disenfranchised are the leftists who think crimes against property should be de-emphasized and those who try to defend their property are liable for arrest for assault, I say good! If those being left behind are these cities where illegals are given up to $1,500 dollars per month while American citizens get zilch, then fuck 'em.

View original postEliminating the Electoral College would mean the candidates that pander to the far left would always win. If that is going to happen, let it happen after I'm dead and gone.

No, it wouldn't - if you look at voters on a simple left to right spectrum, obviously an oversimplification but it'll do for now, the winner of a popular vote presidential election would be whichever candidate could capture the vote of the most centrist voter in the country, the person who had precisely as many voters to his/her right as to his/her left. A far left candidate would definitely not be able to do that, nor one that was too far right.

Among current prominent politicians, more likely winners would be people like Joe Manchin, Nikki Haley, Larry Hogan, Susan Collins, probably a bunch of governors - centrists and moderates.

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Honestly, the word's been used so much it's an established term by now. Don't think they invented it Legolas - 02/07/2024 08:54:50 PM 254 Views
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Re: FPTP sucks in general, yes, whether in the US, in France, or elsewhere. damookster - 08/07/2024 10:34:12 PM 238 Views
To be clear I didn't say it should be eliminated entirely, but as for what would happen if it was... Legolas - 08/07/2024 10:50:57 PM 277 Views
You're wrong. damookster - 09/07/2024 01:19:30 AM 242 Views
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Re: You're still looking at it from the current two-party system framework. damookster - 09/07/2024 01:45:33 PM 234 Views
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Re: The most interesting thing to me, so far, about this debate damookster - 08/07/2024 03:20:14 PM 236 Views
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Re: I think Biden and his Inner Circle are playing the clock damookster - 10/07/2024 04:14:17 PM 231 Views
Agreed that it wouldn't be a good idea for Obama and Clinton to take a leading role. Legolas - 10/07/2024 09:49:28 PM 239 Views
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