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I mostly agree, with one giant caveat Tom Send a noteboard - 05/12/2024 02:56:02 PM

The thing is that Joe knows Hunter got a job with Burisma so that Burisma could have leverage with Joe. Joe knows it was bribery. Joe got money as part of the bribery. He bragged about contravening Congressional aid until and unless Ukraine fired the prosecutor investigating Burisma. The quid pro quo is already admitted by Biden. If he weren't old and losing his mind, I think Trump's DOJ would go after him for that.

The thing is that when Trump asked legitimate and founded questions about the whole Burisma thing, Eric Ciaramella (aka "Pajama Boy" ) got a call from that fucker Vindman and started an impeachment hearing against Trump.

The Dems said that Trump should be impeached because he (1) improperly withheld Congressional aid to Ukraine in exchange for information on Burisma, (2) the accusations were baseless, and (3) it was done for political reasons.

If (1) were improper, then Biden himself should have been impeached, as well as countless Presidents who have used executive power to slow or halt Congressional funds to foreign countries as part of legitimate foreign policy.

Intent for (3) could not be proven, so either it was ok for him to do it if he could show a valid reason or any act against a political enemy is ipso facto improper. If the former, he had a valid reason. If the latter, then Senators Cory Booker, Liz Warren, Amy Klobuchar and others should have recused themselves from voting, because they were voting to remove a sitting President they were campaigning against for political advantage.

And that gets us to the heart of this: part (2). Trump was impeached for investigating real corruption on the part of the Bidens. I don't care who else might be corrupt and the "whataboutism" that flows from that. The fact is that it's now been fairly convincingly proven that the Biden family was a corrupt bribes for action enterprise. Joe pardoning Hunter after saying he wouldn't is just the final nail in the coffin of Biden's reputation.

Trump is owed an apology for that and yes, I agree with Elon that Vindman is a traitor, Ciaramella should never be allowed near government activity again (he's probably a CIA plant at the think tank he's at, sadly), and the media should finally admit the level of Biden corruption.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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No Fucks Left to Give Joe tosses Hunter a blanket pardon - 02/12/2024 09:23:33 PM 580 Views
I think if he hadn't said he wouldn't pardon his son, then this would be a non-issue. - 03/12/2024 12:53:15 PM 372 Views
I don't agree with that - it would've been a serious issue still. - 03/12/2024 05:56:18 PM 313 Views
How about this? - 04/12/2024 03:43:52 AM 293 Views
Fully agree. *NM* - 04/12/2024 06:40:15 AM 129 Views
I don't believe he'd been sentenced for those crimes, yet, had he? - 04/12/2024 07:14:04 AM 305 Views
Per 'old news', his sentencing dates were Dec 12 for the gun charge and 16 for tax evasion - 04/12/2024 01:30:11 PM 304 Views
In that case, yes, your solution is a good one. - 04/12/2024 03:58:32 PM 319 Views
Trump was already going to pardon all the J6 defendants, though. - 04/12/2024 07:18:56 AM 309 Views
Re: Trump was already going to pardon all the J6 defendants, though. - 04/12/2024 02:07:41 PM 297 Views
Ugh, I hate this 'they're all the same' rhetoric. - 04/12/2024 09:22:38 PM 345 Views
I respectfully disagree. - 04/12/2024 11:09:07 PM 262 Views
Seems like we're kind of talking past each other here. - 05/12/2024 11:39:02 PM 309 Views
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You mean his administration and Congress had those successes. - 06/12/2024 10:12:25 PM 310 Views
No, I mean him. *NM* - 07/12/2024 12:38:27 AM 213 Views
Okay, then I guess we're not debating it, as you like. *NM* - 07/12/2024 08:54:03 AM 189 Views
The achievements of the administration are attributed to the President. - 08/12/2024 10:50:43 AM 359 Views
Some people also think the earth is flat. - 08/12/2024 06:29:37 PM 322 Views
Le sigh - 08/12/2024 09:03:01 PM 355 Views
Make up your mind already. - 08/12/2024 10:30:11 PM 324 Views
I mostly agree, with one giant caveat - 05/12/2024 02:56:02 PM 365 Views
Re: I mostly agree, with one giant caveat - 05/12/2024 03:49:00 PM 276 Views
I take a bit of umbrage at that assignment personally - 06/12/2024 12:37:40 AM 361 Views
We've been over this - some of this is true, some is, at a minimum, not proven that I ever saw. - 05/12/2024 11:18:24 PM 278 Views
I know it was factually true - 06/12/2024 12:46:44 AM 388 Views
Sounds like you need to become a whistleblower and go talk to the FBI yourself, then? - 06/12/2024 11:37:00 AM 280 Views
Typically, whistle blower and attorney client privilege are not viewed as compatible. - 06/12/2024 03:57:12 PM 269 Views
I have a clearance - 06/12/2024 05:01:07 PM 327 Views
Re: I have a clearance - 06/12/2024 08:08:50 PM 303 Views
Secret evidence doesn't have to be believed - 07/12/2024 09:31:10 PM 304 Views
Re: Secret evidence doesn't have to be believed - 08/12/2024 03:46:54 PM 298 Views
Seriously? - 06/12/2024 10:28:07 PM 363 Views
Re: Seriously? - 06/12/2024 11:33:59 PM 383 Views
Did you even read that earlier post? - 07/12/2024 08:53:15 AM 355 Views
I can't believe I'm siding with Tom here - 07/12/2024 01:50:15 AM 297 Views
I guess you kinda have to with your profession. - 07/12/2024 07:46:01 PM 317 Views
Re: I guess you kinda have to with your profession. - 07/12/2024 08:07:28 PM 299 Views
See my other reply above then. *NM* - 07/12/2024 09:43:37 PM 189 Views
You're CLEARLY a Harris plant - 06/12/2024 01:07:07 AM 314 Views
Hah, you got me! - 06/12/2024 11:49:19 AM 285 Views
I'd be hesitant to link Biden with the Democrats anymore - 06/12/2024 01:24:44 AM 320 Views
Re: I'd be hesitant to link Biden with the Democrats anymore - 06/12/2024 01:47:08 AM 377 Views

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