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All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse Isaac Send a noteboard - 19/06/2010 08:36:14 PM
First to answer FT's question - simply put, I believe all characters are consistent with their roles and offered out the question to limit DF options for Fake RCs and to guard against the off side chance that mine was consistent but several other people were not. The question was deliberately phrased to give people every chance to answer yes unless there was a strong anomaly - no one has answered no, as suspected. It's real, primary purpose was to see who might be wary of giving an answer at all, and of course to get people talking again, but I'm a big believer in two birds with one stone.

Let's look at the CON question. Again, I believe everyone, including scum, can truthfully answer yes to this. We have received answers from everyone who has been present, except two, and all said yes. I exclude Talic, Blaine, and Amys as simply gone, and Hobo as having hit six days without posting, and Fox who is RBIRL

Of those who remain, all answered Yes to CON except:
Kronin - answered Kinda
Artsapat - has not answered

Note that Artsapat held off giving his reason not to answer until after everyone else who was around had said yes, except Kronin. He explains this as fear a role might be exposed, yet what roles would these be, to be blunt, I believe everyone is a Yes except possibly one oddball player and that therefore the risk is justified, as it is probably non-existent.

This draws the eye, and I will shortly explain how Kronin and Artsapat's settings are highly improbable, if not impossible, to match their other answers.

First however, let me point out the elections for chair. I noticed this afterward, when I was first going through the individual settings on Kronin, whose claim of female made line-by-line analysis of all major or recurring characters in his settings feasible. I had also noticed that Artsapat's settings did not match his MRE and MCS data in most cases, same as some of Kronin's. And that he was chair. It was an election by which he won 2-1 over DK, those two votes for Artsapat were from Kronin and himself.

Note: It is often common for DFs defending or supporting an ally to be leery of it, and often they rationalize 'But such open support would be so obvious no one would believe I'd do it' and do it anyway, yeah for WIFOMs. Trust me, DFs do do the obvious quite often. I, of all people, should know. Supporting someone who turns out dark is not proof of scumminess, but it certainly is not 'but I'd never be dumb enough to do it' proof of townies either.

Let's examine why a DF would want to answer with other than yes. Simply put, having given their settings they likely haven't picked a fake role yet, and probably did not check and see which fake settings offered characters they could claim in this regard. If you later claim to be X, and the only remaining character is is just not a logical X, you're in trouble if you said 'Yes' to consistency.

Remind me at some point to explain how any good trap in this game needs to incorporate Bait and Chaff. It's an important point that has some bearing on this matter but is fairly lengthy and I don't want to digress. There's also the advantage of 'Wad of Data' which is a bit different then chaff since it relies less on distraction and more on the target's desire to avoid great effort.

Let us look at there responses:

Kronin al'Sulc
MRE: UNC
MCS: UNC
GEN: Female
CON: Kinda
HDG:
Dr. McNinja
Barbieverse
Clue
Pokemon
American Idol

Artsapat
MRE: UNC
MCS: No
GEN: Male
CON:
HDG: No
Professional Wrestling
Monopoly, The Game
American Idol
GI Joe
The Apprentice


A quick note - both of them picked American Idol, a very strange pick for a reality TV show when both are claiming to be 'uncertain if this setting take place on modern real earth' these are obviously both blatantly fake - a reality TV show still on the air has to be the most ironclad example of Yes for MRE besides a news broadcast. However, the important thing is they both picked it, same as they both voted for Artsapat to be chair, and both refused to answer Yes to consistency... everyone else answered yes or is simply missing in the ether. Note also that both picked board games, clue and monopoly. They've both picked UNC for MRE, so let's look at the list minus Idol.

Kronin
Dr. McNinja
Barbieverse
Clue
Pokemon

Artsapat
Professional Wrestling
Monopoly, The Game
GI Joe
The Apprentice

First, Pro Wrestling is blatantly a MRE: Yes. Apprentice is another reality TV show, and there is only one person in monopoly - 'Rich Uncle Pennybags', who could definitely get a No for HDG, which he gave, but lacking any quality besides 'wealthy' would be an easy yes for consistency which was defined as 'no contradictory' and to which everyone was informed - especially Artsapat who asked after this before answering, was made explicitly clear he could answer "Yes" to whether Pennnybags was vanilla or roled.

This leaves only GI Joe - every character in that/show is either outright first-order do-gooder or dyed-in-the-wool cheesy bad guy, so a 'No' HDG answer means Cobra - personally I'm betting he's cobra commander. Regardless, he has only two scenarios for townie-dom remaining: 1) He is Rich Uncle Pennybags, or 2) He has answered the questions incorrectly and not corrected his answers even after others did with no repercussions and extensive dialogue and examples of what MRE answers were valid.

Regarding 1) Were this his real setting, odds strongly favor he'd have spent some time considering it and realized there was only on character, then answered 'board game character' instead, not wishing to have a single option for his real setting, he also answered settings after Kronin did. Furthermore, since it's clear - be he town or scum - that he drew 'inspiration' for his settings from Kronin, with American Idol and a board game, this seems an even stronger indicator the Pennybags option doesn't exist.

Regarding 2) This is possible, yet is grounds for lynch, as it amounts to strongly anti-town behavior by dint of leaving great room for scummers to maneuver out of settings traps, I obviously can't prove he didn't make a mistake or as a townie didn't lie or prevaricate.

Now to Kronin - again I draw your attention to the known acts of partnership, voting for Artsapat for Chair, and picking the same setting for him for American Idol and both having a board game in common. None of these are proof in of themselves, but keep them strongly in mind.

Kronin
Dr. McNinja
Barbieverse
Clue
Pokemon

Let's look at clue first. There are six characters in the game, three male, three female. Clue is basically to murder mystery games such as mafiascum what Lord of the Rings is to Fantasy, anyone could have done it anywhere with anything. So a 'kinda' for consistency is out, they could all hold any role or lack thereof without being inconsistent. OF the three chicks, White alone holds a vaguely mafiascum related possible role, she was originally patented as Nurse White, but this was dropped before the first edition of the game even came out.

Barbieverse - Barbie can do anything, she's literally the jack of all trades in that she comes as everything from a racecar driver, to police officer, to rocket scientist. She's also a MRE of 'Yes', because her setting is simply in default earth. This jack of all trades nature is more or less shared by other her sidekick, and to be blunt, I doubt ranagrande, a male, would be likely to be familiar with Barbie's various one-line dolls 'friends'.

Dr. Mcninja - there are only two female characters in this series, the doc's ninja-mother and an ape named Judy. This is not a really well known series, so I doubt it to begin with, but generally speaking I doubt ranagrande would have used very second tier characters from a little known webcomic. Although having read some of it, I must say it is rather humorous. It's also set in default modern earth, so it doesn't appear a great candidate for UNC, though maybe they skip around to weird places, I just read the first episode on his war with McDonalds. Ultimately, besides the character's mom and an ape being the only female characters, his MCS answer of UNC is ludicrous. "I am a secondary character in a little-known webcomic" is not a great candidate for Uncertain on a question asking if people came from a major setting or were major character.

Pokemon - The female protagonists from the game are Leaf, Kris, Lyra, May, and Dawn, plus Misty from the anime. I have difficulty seeing - from my own admittedly limited knowledge of this setting - why any of these would be likely to be 'kinda' on consistency?

Kronin explained his 'Kinda' on consistency by saying the flavor made it make sense, when queried regarding this, he did not respond and has not responded on the board and has not posted since then, going well beyond the 72 hour period, yet he can be shown to be not RBIRL, as Yunalesca, Kylia, and I can all testify he has been present on the RP Mafia Chat room during this period, as has Talic. He is a long-term and active player, a sudden disappearance just as a probing question was asked regarding an abnormal answer not associated to any RBIRL is highly suspicious.

To summarize, I feel both Kronin and Artsapat have exhibited other suspicious behavior I may detail later, but what we appear to have is two players with strong appearance of collusion - The Chair Vote and the similiar answers - as well very questionable if not outright false answers and an apparent strong desire not to answer certain questions. I'd advise everyone to check my data in case I made an error- there was lots of info, mistakes happen - but at this time I believe a strong case exists for both.

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Totally. *NM* - 10/06/2010 04:57:57 AM 797 Views
Re: Because it is always bad. Seems like the ideal reason. - 10/06/2010 05:03:15 AM 1322 Views
We might randomly lynch (or try to lynch) someone who is part of a faction - 10/06/2010 06:37:48 AM 1313 Views
Yeah, but that isn't a voting record. - 11/06/2010 04:41:29 AM 1370 Views
I don't believe in completely random lynches. - 10/06/2010 04:35:42 PM 1373 Views
I feel like random lynches are a really good place for scum to hide. - 10/06/2010 06:19:22 PM 1338 Views
'Seems' isn't 'Is', a dead townie is a dead townie - 10/06/2010 05:57:19 AM 1264 Views
Which is pretty much the point. - 10/06/2010 05:39:36 PM 1288 Views
Re: Which is pretty much the point. - 10/06/2010 06:31:40 PM 1385 Views
Re: Which is pretty much the point. - 11/06/2010 01:56:41 AM 1373 Views
Re: Which is pretty much the point. - 11/06/2010 02:18:56 AM 1247 Views
Re: Which is pretty much the point. - 11/06/2010 02:35:14 AM 1426 Views
Re: Which is pretty much the point. - 11/06/2010 12:58:25 AM 1344 Views
Incidentally, how likely do you think it is that I am a Darkfriend? - 11/06/2010 01:34:55 AM 1366 Views
Probably less than random with some caveats, over all, roughly random - 11/06/2010 02:21:24 AM 1366 Views
Re: Probably less than random with some caveats, over all, roughly random - 11/06/2010 02:40:33 AM 1399 Views
I suppose we're back to DefCon 5 - 11/06/2010 03:36:12 AM 1343 Views
Re: I suppose we're back to DefCon 5 - 11/06/2010 03:48:31 AM 1306 Views
Re: I suppose we're back to DefCon 5 - 11/06/2010 04:08:27 AM 1172 Views
Well actually technically I am kinda new. *NM* - 12/06/2010 01:22:50 PM 772 Views
Whoa, did I put Dark Shadows? - 09/06/2010 06:22:16 PM 1354 Views
Yeaaah, I don't think so. - 09/06/2010 08:13:41 PM 1234 Views
Update! Darth Katie's analysis: - 09/06/2010 11:20:36 PM 1336 Views
So sorry guys - 10/06/2010 06:31:49 AM 1326 Views
It happens, don't worry about it - 10/06/2010 06:35:25 AM 1396 Views
No problem - 10/06/2010 04:17:27 PM 1400 Views
Any chance we can get Gher to replace in? - 10/06/2010 07:30:04 PM 1518 Views
That would be great if he wanted to - 10/06/2010 08:46:55 PM 1331 Views
Actually... - 10/06/2010 08:52:19 PM 1295 Views
An addition to my Talic accusation - 10/06/2010 08:48:14 AM 1339 Views
Duffman wouldn't be awesome? - 10/06/2010 10:31:30 AM 1320 Views
It was mostly a "slightly better than random" vote - 10/06/2010 04:42:38 PM 1224 Views
Well, it did raise a good point for approach though - 11/06/2010 01:05:18 AM 1326 Views
Oh come on. - 10/06/2010 05:56:54 PM 1379 Views
I maintain it made sense - 11/06/2010 02:55:39 AM 1290 Views
Heading rival Darkfriend factions would've been awesome. - 11/06/2010 03:02:35 AM 1243 Views
Definitely - 11/06/2010 03:20:38 AM 1322 Views
Re: Oh come on. - 12/06/2010 01:56:41 PM 1235 Views
oh why so serious beet? - 10/06/2010 09:11:03 PM 1293 Views
...just watch? - 10/06/2010 11:15:20 PM 1463 Views
Combined Info (Table) - 11/06/2010 04:33:01 AM 1383 Views
The All-Seeing Eye of Sauron is upon you... let the brutal analysis begin - 11/06/2010 05:16:27 AM 1268 Views
Hmm ... I think I am working from a different definition of Modern Real Earth. - 11/06/2010 06:37:04 AM 1284 Views
Re: Hmm ... I think I am working from a different definition of Modern Real Earth. - 11/06/2010 12:50:16 PM 1345 Views
Works for me. *NM* - 11/06/2010 02:19:45 PM 727 Views
Re: The All-Seeing Eye of Sauron is upon you... let the brutal analysis begin - 12/06/2010 03:33:37 PM 1411 Views
You have an acronym fetish, don't you? *NM* - 11/06/2010 09:02:07 AM 833 Views
You know, just because someone is good or bad in their series, - 11/06/2010 05:35:04 AM 1334 Views
Yep, but the individual character will control that I think - 11/06/2010 05:42:28 AM 1359 Views
RBIRL for the weekend *NM* - 11/06/2010 12:51:17 PM 738 Views
Me too basically. *NM* - 11/06/2010 02:24:38 PM 749 Views
[realy busy in real life] - 12/06/2010 12:41:46 PM 1284 Views
RBIRL for another effing week. - 13/06/2010 01:55:52 AM 1313 Views
I'm RBIRL this week as well, through Friday. *NM* - 13/06/2010 06:40:04 AM 778 Views
I am forced to assume - 13/06/2010 02:46:47 PM 1305 Views
Oh, and I am semi-RBIRL until Friday too. *NM* - 13/06/2010 03:00:47 PM 761 Views
Re: I am forced to assume - 15/06/2010 06:44:06 AM 1369 Views
Well good luck with that too, I guess. - 15/06/2010 10:29:19 PM 1258 Views
I'm not busy at all! Let's murder someone! - 13/06/2010 04:06:04 AM 1246 Views
Re: I'm not busy at all! Let's murder someone! - 13/06/2010 02:16:40 PM 1256 Views
Why Isaac? *NM* - 13/06/2010 02:47:49 PM 770 Views
I too, unsurprisingly, would like an answer to that *NM* - 13/06/2010 05:48:29 PM 743 Views
Good point. - 13/06/2010 06:20:55 PM 1288 Views
Eh, do we ever get that much out of Day One? - 13/06/2010 06:46:31 PM 1454 Views
Kinda. - 13/06/2010 09:16:56 PM 1348 Views
Actually it's often the most productive day - 13/06/2010 09:26:25 PM 1276 Views
Before I basically disappear from this thread for about a week... - 13/06/2010 08:55:03 PM 1388 Views
Okay, pushing forward - 14/06/2010 04:29:20 PM 1562 Views
Re: Okay, pushing forward - 14/06/2010 06:50:19 PM 1278 Views
Re: Okay, pushing forward - 14/06/2010 10:27:43 PM 1311 Views
EBWOP - 15/06/2010 12:59:20 AM 1607 Views
Yes it's just day 1 - 15/06/2010 01:06:56 AM 1314 Views
Pledge: No; CON: Sure - 15/06/2010 12:31:57 AM 1367 Views
So... - 15/06/2010 01:04:11 AM 1321 Views
If you will allow me to be pedantic. - 15/06/2010 01:24:07 AM 1198 Views
Duly noted - 15/06/2010 01:38:34 AM 1250 Views
Not like they were especially contributive anyway. - 15/06/2010 02:26:34 AM 1239 Views
Re: So... - 15/06/2010 02:29:41 AM 1319 Views
Re: So... - 15/06/2010 07:52:29 AM 1220 Views
Re: So... - 16/06/2010 06:36:22 PM 1397 Views
I think scum might be willing to ask some questions. - 15/06/2010 01:43:57 AM 1272 Views
Yes, they do - 15/06/2010 02:32:57 AM 1269 Views
The pledge I am not very enthused about. - 15/06/2010 01:42:27 AM 1325 Views
Ok, I just want to say I'm sorry for not posting as much as I normally do - 15/06/2010 02:52:31 AM 1146 Views
Okay, now you're just pushing for a No-Lynch in different terms. - 15/06/2010 04:49:26 AM 1320 Views
Also... - 15/06/2010 03:12:18 PM 1365 Views
Well, the role itself is something you would not expect. - 15/06/2010 03:36:33 PM 1412 Views
That's an ambiguous but tantalizing statement... - 15/06/2010 03:59:29 PM 1392 Views
my role and char are consistant - 15/06/2010 10:04:51 AM 1314 Views
Re: my role and char are consistant - 15/06/2010 03:23:10 PM 1377 Views
Do you have a suggestion? *NM* - 15/06/2010 06:10:25 PM 748 Views
On that note... - 16/06/2010 07:02:12 PM 1400 Views
Seeing hwo you're trying to protect me from getting Lynched - 15/06/2010 12:40:27 PM 1259 Views
Re: Seeing hwo you're trying to protect me from getting Lynched - 15/06/2010 04:21:56 PM 1338 Views
Every vanilla is supposed to say yes. - 15/06/2010 06:13:08 PM 1368 Views
Which of course brings about the real problem, which is the opposite of what you say. - 15/06/2010 06:26:42 PM 1298 Views
Let me hold off on answering this, if you don't mind - 15/06/2010 07:14:25 PM 1277 Views
Fine, I'm not in a hurry. *NM* - 15/06/2010 07:17:10 PM 865 Views
Let me run another possible question by you - 15/06/2010 08:18:33 PM 1308 Views
By the way, this is sort of a revision of white flame's question - 15/06/2010 08:21:32 PM 1153 Views
At first glance, I don't see any problem with it. - 15/06/2010 09:31:44 PM 1333 Views
Let's go with it then - 15/06/2010 09:42:32 PM 1360 Views
Sure. - 15/06/2010 11:28:10 PM 1252 Views
Re: Sure. - 15/06/2010 11:45:37 PM 1207 Views
Ok so I really don't like the idea of the pledge - 15/06/2010 04:27:09 PM 1319 Views
DFs might try to skate through. - 15/06/2010 10:57:06 PM 1387 Views
Actually Gender was mine... *NM* - 16/06/2010 06:31:02 PM 722 Views
Also, yes to con, no to pledge. *NM* - 16/06/2010 07:03:42 PM 789 Views
The Big Info Compilation v 1.0 (Table) - 14/06/2010 07:40:38 PM 1457 Views
to get the game moving - 15/06/2010 08:53:38 PM 1383 Views
go on... *NM* - 15/06/2010 09:38:13 PM 799 Views
its day one, do i realy need a reason? *NM* - 15/06/2010 09:56:59 PM 802 Views
It is customary *NM* - 15/06/2010 10:01:25 PM 803 Views
well... - 15/06/2010 11:04:29 PM 1274 Views
Eh, I think I've been pretty consistent - 16/06/2010 06:35:57 AM 1247 Views
Yeah, I was a bit wary of the way he leapt on Talic too. - 16/06/2010 12:51:30 PM 1351 Views
I actually would think it proves his innocence over anything - 17/06/2010 12:18:04 AM 1416 Views
Next Question - 15/06/2010 09:56:10 PM 1271 Views
Seriously - 15/06/2010 10:58:24 PM 1348 Views
I am willing to answer if others are willing though *NM* - 15/06/2010 10:58:44 PM 766 Views
It's interesting, actually. - 16/06/2010 06:37:41 AM 1380 Views
Debatable. - 15/06/2010 11:00:39 PM 1343 Views
Strong Yes - 16/06/2010 06:38:53 AM 1322 Views
Didn't you already say you were a manly man? - 16/06/2010 12:52:57 PM 1324 Views
Well, he could also be a 'neither' or 'both'. *NM* - 16/06/2010 05:24:26 PM 812 Views
I am large; I contain multitudes - 16/06/2010 07:48:33 PM 1367 Views
HGD- No *NM* - 16/06/2010 12:11:28 PM 700 Views
I find the HDG question vague and polarizing... *NM* - 16/06/2010 07:04:59 PM 803 Views
HDG- yes - 17/06/2010 11:23:18 PM 1300 Views
Who isn't answering questions (Table) - 17/06/2010 03:13:58 PM 1254 Views
oi! - 17/06/2010 07:43:23 PM 1347 Views
Gotcha, fixed it - 17/06/2010 07:50:53 PM 1219 Views
Throw in an oi for me, too - 17/06/2010 11:22:48 PM 1324 Views
One of my answers - 18/06/2010 12:50:15 PM 1267 Views
It won't be too much longer - 18/06/2010 05:25:36 PM 1214 Views
Agreed - 18/06/2010 06:39:35 PM 1265 Views
"It" being my own notes etc, off course *NM* - 18/06/2010 06:42:42 PM 776 Views
Re: Agreed - 18/06/2010 08:02:02 PM 1497 Views
Fox is RBIRL until after this weekend - 18/06/2010 10:06:26 PM 1528 Views
HDG: Plead the 5th - 19/06/2010 09:49:08 AM 1386 Views
No longer RBIRL and will be what I mostly skimmed over in a bit - 19/06/2010 10:00:12 AM 1235 Views
Technical difficulties... back to RBIRL until fixed *NM* - 20/06/2010 12:28:41 AM 753 Views
All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse - 19/06/2010 08:36:14 PM 1264 Views
why just FOS? - 19/06/2010 09:48:25 PM 1247 Views
EBWOP Vote Artsapat - 19/06/2010 09:51:01 PM 1266 Views
I can't vote for two people at once - 19/06/2010 10:12:10 PM 1218 Views
Honestly, I'm in standby at this point. - 20/06/2010 09:31:42 AM 1300 Views
Just for you Beet, a non-acronym version - 20/06/2010 05:13:07 PM 1280 Views
Hah, nice, thanks - 20/06/2010 05:24:15 PM 1311 Views
Welcome *NM* - 20/06/2010 05:24:57 PM 756 Views
Interesting. - 20/06/2010 01:41:40 AM 1435 Views
Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse - 20/06/2010 03:43:46 AM 1352 Views
Okay, admittedly, I haven't been paying that much attention. - 20/06/2010 05:55:51 AM 1300 Views
Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse - 20/06/2010 01:29:43 PM 1342 Views
Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse - 20/06/2010 05:47:45 PM 1270 Views
I'll reply to this in bits, but first: - 20/06/2010 06:09:26 PM 1307 Views
Re: I'll reply to this in bits, but first: - 20/06/2010 06:44:33 PM 1255 Views
I just wanted a one word thingy, so people could type it easy - 20/06/2010 08:15:57 PM 1409 Views
No Comment *NM* - 22/06/2010 11:34:42 PM 739 Views
Let me extend you an offer - 20/06/2010 08:24:11 PM 1385 Views
A typo-less message implies I'm distracted? How? - 21/06/2010 04:41:17 AM 1377 Views
No, you said you were distracted, I said the message looks like you want people to think so - 21/06/2010 04:52:36 AM 1380 Views
I thought I did address the accusation. - 21/06/2010 05:06:41 AM 1288 Views
See, and I know you're gonna think that was an intentional typo to prove a point. It wasn't, honest - 21/06/2010 05:09:05 AM 1433 Views
I'm not really interested in typos one way or another - 21/06/2010 05:16:19 AM 1358 Views
I'm a Barbie girl, in a Barbie world. - 21/06/2010 05:27:27 AM 1337 Views
And now I'm gonna sleep. I'll get to your questions in the morning. - 21/06/2010 05:29:08 AM 1287 Views
Aqua aside, why did you answer UNC for MRE and MCS? - 21/06/2010 05:35:31 AM 1251 Views
Re: Aqua aside, why did you answer UNC for MRE and MCS? - 21/06/2010 02:59:05 PM 1330 Views
MRE seems to be giving a lot of people trouble *NM* - 21/06/2010 05:40:57 PM 782 Views
Maybe ask the question again and try to get confirmation? *NM* - 21/06/2010 06:47:51 PM 733 Views
I think UNC is consistent for MRE for Barbie - 21/06/2010 06:51:13 PM 1308 Views
For the record, I did eventually change my consistency to a yes. - 21/06/2010 07:17:09 PM 1296 Views
Possible, and MCS? - 21/06/2010 07:21:29 PM 1287 Views
Yeah, that's also sketchy. - 21/06/2010 07:28:24 PM 1266 Views
Re: Yeah, that's also sketchy. - 21/06/2010 08:03:27 PM 1275 Views
Kronin's Barbie, but claimed he wasn't a major character? Vote: Kronin - 21/06/2010 11:39:34 PM 1341 Views
I'd like a roleclaim. - 22/06/2010 12:48:13 AM 1316 Views
Honestly, looking back, consistency should've been a yes. - 22/06/2010 01:21:16 AM 1353 Views
Oh, and don't forget about Arty. - 22/06/2010 01:21:49 AM 1332 Views
Each day you can be a different role? That's kind of awesome *NM* - 22/06/2010 07:22:35 AM 784 Views
Well, I knew it would come down to this, as soon as you pointed a finger to me. - 21/06/2010 08:02:42 AM 1267 Views
Might as well explain my answers then. - 21/06/2010 08:52:46 AM 1365 Views
Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse - 20/06/2010 06:37:50 PM 1300 Views
Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse - 21/06/2010 07:57:59 AM 1385 Views
Wow, so I suppose these questions can be used in a town friendly way - 20/06/2010 02:06:15 PM 1330 Views
Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll - 22/06/2010 01:25:27 AM 1299 Views
Now, I'm all in favor of lynching Isaac. - 22/06/2010 01:37:37 AM 1386 Views
"You lie you die" is sound policy not only Day 1, but every Day. - 22/06/2010 01:40:46 AM 1272 Views
Vote: Artsapat - 22/06/2010 05:01:31 AM 1203 Views
Hey, that's a good idea. Vote: Artsapat *NM* - 22/06/2010 05:18:21 AM 748 Views
Re: Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll - 22/06/2010 01:43:07 AM 1253 Views
I suppose I'll join in - 22/06/2010 01:45:48 AM 1318 Views
I'm not gonna deny that I deserve this. - 22/06/2010 03:24:38 AM 1273 Views
- 22/06/2010 03:52:33 AM 1299 Views
Oh man, that was hilarious. - 22/06/2010 03:54:58 AM 1255 Views
Re: Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll - 22/06/2010 04:15:44 AM 1250 Views
Re: Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll - 22/06/2010 04:31:27 AM 1275 Views
Yea! Kill Kronin! - 22/06/2010 04:56:58 AM 1275 Views
No offense meant, bro. *NM* - 22/06/2010 05:45:22 PM 753 Views
My answers to the 2 questions asked... - 20/06/2010 05:31:22 PM 1244 Views
Just out of curiosity... - 20/06/2010 05:57:00 PM 1222 Views
Re: Just out of curiosity... - 20/06/2010 06:42:38 PM 1284 Views
Vote Table - 21/06/2010 08:51:45 PM 1230 Views
Well, I suppose the sensible thing to do here is lynch Kronin. - 22/06/2010 04:08:46 AM 1233 Views
I told you, main character was my bad. - 22/06/2010 04:20:08 AM 1213 Views
OK, I'll hammer this - 22/06/2010 07:29:38 AM 1209 Views
Kronin al'Sulc has been lynched - 22/06/2010 01:44:22 PM 1328 Views
a slight delay - 25/06/2010 05:55:03 AM 1292 Views
Re: a slight delay - 25/06/2010 07:28:21 AM 1277 Views
No worries, take your time - 25/06/2010 02:02:58 PM 1252 Views

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