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All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse Isaac Send a noteboard - 19/06/2010 08:36:14 PM
First to answer FT's question - simply put, I believe all characters are consistent with their roles and offered out the question to limit DF options for Fake RCs and to guard against the off side chance that mine was consistent but several other people were not. The question was deliberately phrased to give people every chance to answer yes unless there was a strong anomaly - no one has answered no, as suspected. It's real, primary purpose was to see who might be wary of giving an answer at all, and of course to get people talking again, but I'm a big believer in two birds with one stone.

Let's look at the CON question. Again, I believe everyone, including scum, can truthfully answer yes to this. We have received answers from everyone who has been present, except two, and all said yes. I exclude Talic, Blaine, and Amys as simply gone, and Hobo as having hit six days without posting, and Fox who is RBIRL

Of those who remain, all answered Yes to CON except:
Kronin - answered Kinda
Artsapat - has not answered

Note that Artsapat held off giving his reason not to answer until after everyone else who was around had said yes, except Kronin. He explains this as fear a role might be exposed, yet what roles would these be, to be blunt, I believe everyone is a Yes except possibly one oddball player and that therefore the risk is justified, as it is probably non-existent.

This draws the eye, and I will shortly explain how Kronin and Artsapat's settings are highly improbable, if not impossible, to match their other answers.

First however, let me point out the elections for chair. I noticed this afterward, when I was first going through the individual settings on Kronin, whose claim of female made line-by-line analysis of all major or recurring characters in his settings feasible. I had also noticed that Artsapat's settings did not match his MRE and MCS data in most cases, same as some of Kronin's. And that he was chair. It was an election by which he won 2-1 over DK, those two votes for Artsapat were from Kronin and himself.

Note: It is often common for DFs defending or supporting an ally to be leery of it, and often they rationalize 'But such open support would be so obvious no one would believe I'd do it' and do it anyway, yeah for WIFOMs. Trust me, DFs do do the obvious quite often. I, of all people, should know. Supporting someone who turns out dark is not proof of scumminess, but it certainly is not 'but I'd never be dumb enough to do it' proof of townies either.

Let's examine why a DF would want to answer with other than yes. Simply put, having given their settings they likely haven't picked a fake role yet, and probably did not check and see which fake settings offered characters they could claim in this regard. If you later claim to be X, and the only remaining character is is just not a logical X, you're in trouble if you said 'Yes' to consistency.

Remind me at some point to explain how any good trap in this game needs to incorporate Bait and Chaff. It's an important point that has some bearing on this matter but is fairly lengthy and I don't want to digress. There's also the advantage of 'Wad of Data' which is a bit different then chaff since it relies less on distraction and more on the target's desire to avoid great effort.

Let us look at there responses:

Kronin al'Sulc
MRE: UNC
MCS: UNC
GEN: Female
CON: Kinda
HDG:
Dr. McNinja
Barbieverse
Clue
Pokemon
American Idol

Artsapat
MRE: UNC
MCS: No
GEN: Male
CON:
HDG: No
Professional Wrestling
Monopoly, The Game
American Idol
GI Joe
The Apprentice


A quick note - both of them picked American Idol, a very strange pick for a reality TV show when both are claiming to be 'uncertain if this setting take place on modern real earth' these are obviously both blatantly fake - a reality TV show still on the air has to be the most ironclad example of Yes for MRE besides a news broadcast. However, the important thing is they both picked it, same as they both voted for Artsapat to be chair, and both refused to answer Yes to consistency... everyone else answered yes or is simply missing in the ether. Note also that both picked board games, clue and monopoly. They've both picked UNC for MRE, so let's look at the list minus Idol.

Kronin
Dr. McNinja
Barbieverse
Clue
Pokemon

Artsapat
Professional Wrestling
Monopoly, The Game
GI Joe
The Apprentice

First, Pro Wrestling is blatantly a MRE: Yes. Apprentice is another reality TV show, and there is only one person in monopoly - 'Rich Uncle Pennybags', who could definitely get a No for HDG, which he gave, but lacking any quality besides 'wealthy' would be an easy yes for consistency which was defined as 'no contradictory' and to which everyone was informed - especially Artsapat who asked after this before answering, was made explicitly clear he could answer "Yes" to whether Pennnybags was vanilla or roled.

This leaves only GI Joe - every character in that/show is either outright first-order do-gooder or dyed-in-the-wool cheesy bad guy, so a 'No' HDG answer means Cobra - personally I'm betting he's cobra commander. Regardless, he has only two scenarios for townie-dom remaining: 1) He is Rich Uncle Pennybags, or 2) He has answered the questions incorrectly and not corrected his answers even after others did with no repercussions and extensive dialogue and examples of what MRE answers were valid.

Regarding 1) Were this his real setting, odds strongly favor he'd have spent some time considering it and realized there was only on character, then answered 'board game character' instead, not wishing to have a single option for his real setting, he also answered settings after Kronin did. Furthermore, since it's clear - be he town or scum - that he drew 'inspiration' for his settings from Kronin, with American Idol and a board game, this seems an even stronger indicator the Pennybags option doesn't exist.

Regarding 2) This is possible, yet is grounds for lynch, as it amounts to strongly anti-town behavior by dint of leaving great room for scummers to maneuver out of settings traps, I obviously can't prove he didn't make a mistake or as a townie didn't lie or prevaricate.

Now to Kronin - again I draw your attention to the known acts of partnership, voting for Artsapat for Chair, and picking the same setting for him for American Idol and both having a board game in common. None of these are proof in of themselves, but keep them strongly in mind.

Kronin
Dr. McNinja
Barbieverse
Clue
Pokemon

Let's look at clue first. There are six characters in the game, three male, three female. Clue is basically to murder mystery games such as mafiascum what Lord of the Rings is to Fantasy, anyone could have done it anywhere with anything. So a 'kinda' for consistency is out, they could all hold any role or lack thereof without being inconsistent. OF the three chicks, White alone holds a vaguely mafiascum related possible role, she was originally patented as Nurse White, but this was dropped before the first edition of the game even came out.

Barbieverse - Barbie can do anything, she's literally the jack of all trades in that she comes as everything from a racecar driver, to police officer, to rocket scientist. She's also a MRE of 'Yes', because her setting is simply in default earth. This jack of all trades nature is more or less shared by other her sidekick, and to be blunt, I doubt ranagrande, a male, would be likely to be familiar with Barbie's various one-line dolls 'friends'.

Dr. Mcninja - there are only two female characters in this series, the doc's ninja-mother and an ape named Judy. This is not a really well known series, so I doubt it to begin with, but generally speaking I doubt ranagrande would have used very second tier characters from a little known webcomic. Although having read some of it, I must say it is rather humorous. It's also set in default modern earth, so it doesn't appear a great candidate for UNC, though maybe they skip around to weird places, I just read the first episode on his war with McDonalds. Ultimately, besides the character's mom and an ape being the only female characters, his MCS answer of UNC is ludicrous. "I am a secondary character in a little-known webcomic" is not a great candidate for Uncertain on a question asking if people came from a major setting or were major character.

Pokemon - The female protagonists from the game are Leaf, Kris, Lyra, May, and Dawn, plus Misty from the anime. I have difficulty seeing - from my own admittedly limited knowledge of this setting - why any of these would be likely to be 'kinda' on consistency?

Kronin explained his 'Kinda' on consistency by saying the flavor made it make sense, when queried regarding this, he did not respond and has not responded on the board and has not posted since then, going well beyond the 72 hour period, yet he can be shown to be not RBIRL, as Yunalesca, Kylia, and I can all testify he has been present on the RP Mafia Chat room during this period, as has Talic. He is a long-term and active player, a sudden disappearance just as a probing question was asked regarding an abnormal answer not associated to any RBIRL is highly suspicious.

To summarize, I feel both Kronin and Artsapat have exhibited other suspicious behavior I may detail later, but what we appear to have is two players with strong appearance of collusion - The Chair Vote and the similiar answers - as well very questionable if not outright false answers and an apparent strong desire not to answer certain questions. I'd advise everyone to check my data in case I made an error- there was lots of info, mistakes happen - but at this time I believe a strong case exists for both.

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Totally. *NM* - 10/06/2010 04:57:57 AM 944 Views
Re: Because it is always bad. Seems like the ideal reason. - 10/06/2010 05:03:15 AM 1524 Views
We might randomly lynch (or try to lynch) someone who is part of a faction - 10/06/2010 06:37:48 AM 1532 Views
Yeah, but that isn't a voting record. - 11/06/2010 04:41:29 AM 1582 Views
I don't believe in completely random lynches. - 10/06/2010 04:35:42 PM 1576 Views
I feel like random lynches are a really good place for scum to hide. - 10/06/2010 06:19:22 PM 1549 Views
'Seems' isn't 'Is', a dead townie is a dead townie - 10/06/2010 05:57:19 AM 1455 Views
Which is pretty much the point. - 10/06/2010 05:39:36 PM 1474 Views
Re: Which is pretty much the point. - 10/06/2010 06:31:40 PM 1588 Views
Re: Which is pretty much the point. - 11/06/2010 01:56:41 AM 1563 Views
Re: Which is pretty much the point. - 11/06/2010 02:18:56 AM 1468 Views
Re: Which is pretty much the point. - 11/06/2010 02:35:14 AM 1628 Views
Re: Which is pretty much the point. - 11/06/2010 12:58:25 AM 1551 Views
Incidentally, how likely do you think it is that I am a Darkfriend? - 11/06/2010 01:34:55 AM 1583 Views
Probably less than random with some caveats, over all, roughly random - 11/06/2010 02:21:24 AM 1581 Views
Re: Probably less than random with some caveats, over all, roughly random - 11/06/2010 02:40:33 AM 1604 Views
I suppose we're back to DefCon 5 - 11/06/2010 03:36:12 AM 1550 Views
Re: I suppose we're back to DefCon 5 - 11/06/2010 03:48:31 AM 1517 Views
Re: I suppose we're back to DefCon 5 - 11/06/2010 04:08:27 AM 1381 Views
Well actually technically I am kinda new. *NM* - 12/06/2010 01:22:50 PM 915 Views
Whoa, did I put Dark Shadows? - 09/06/2010 06:22:16 PM 1553 Views
Yeaaah, I don't think so. - 09/06/2010 08:13:41 PM 1434 Views
Update! Darth Katie's analysis: - 09/06/2010 11:20:36 PM 1538 Views
So sorry guys - 10/06/2010 06:31:49 AM 1530 Views
It happens, don't worry about it - 10/06/2010 06:35:25 AM 1585 Views
No problem - 10/06/2010 04:17:27 PM 1595 Views
Any chance we can get Gher to replace in? - 10/06/2010 07:30:04 PM 1716 Views
That would be great if he wanted to - 10/06/2010 08:46:55 PM 1546 Views
Actually... - 10/06/2010 08:52:19 PM 1496 Views
An addition to my Talic accusation - 10/06/2010 08:48:14 AM 1543 Views
Duffman wouldn't be awesome? - 10/06/2010 10:31:30 AM 1524 Views
It was mostly a "slightly better than random" vote - 10/06/2010 04:42:38 PM 1422 Views
Well, it did raise a good point for approach though - 11/06/2010 01:05:18 AM 1533 Views
Oh come on. - 10/06/2010 05:56:54 PM 1585 Views
I maintain it made sense - 11/06/2010 02:55:39 AM 1495 Views
Heading rival Darkfriend factions would've been awesome. - 11/06/2010 03:02:35 AM 1445 Views
Definitely - 11/06/2010 03:20:38 AM 1517 Views
Re: Oh come on. - 12/06/2010 01:56:41 PM 1436 Views
oh why so serious beet? - 10/06/2010 09:11:03 PM 1488 Views
...just watch? - 10/06/2010 11:15:20 PM 1657 Views
Combined Info (Table) - 11/06/2010 04:33:01 AM 1592 Views
The All-Seeing Eye of Sauron is upon you... let the brutal analysis begin - 11/06/2010 05:16:27 AM 1459 Views
Hmm ... I think I am working from a different definition of Modern Real Earth. - 11/06/2010 06:37:04 AM 1475 Views
Re: Hmm ... I think I am working from a different definition of Modern Real Earth. - 11/06/2010 12:50:16 PM 1541 Views
Works for me. *NM* - 11/06/2010 02:19:45 PM 888 Views
Re: The All-Seeing Eye of Sauron is upon you... let the brutal analysis begin - 12/06/2010 03:33:37 PM 1616 Views
You have an acronym fetish, don't you? *NM* - 11/06/2010 09:02:07 AM 986 Views
You know, just because someone is good or bad in their series, - 11/06/2010 05:35:04 AM 1543 Views
Yep, but the individual character will control that I think - 11/06/2010 05:42:28 AM 1564 Views
RBIRL for the weekend *NM* - 11/06/2010 12:51:17 PM 884 Views
Me too basically. *NM* - 11/06/2010 02:24:38 PM 903 Views
[realy busy in real life] - 12/06/2010 12:41:46 PM 1489 Views
RBIRL for another effing week. - 13/06/2010 01:55:52 AM 1507 Views
I'm RBIRL this week as well, through Friday. *NM* - 13/06/2010 06:40:04 AM 933 Views
I am forced to assume - 13/06/2010 02:46:47 PM 1496 Views
Oh, and I am semi-RBIRL until Friday too. *NM* - 13/06/2010 03:00:47 PM 916 Views
Re: I am forced to assume - 15/06/2010 06:44:06 AM 1569 Views
Well good luck with that too, I guess. - 15/06/2010 10:29:19 PM 1448 Views
I'm not busy at all! Let's murder someone! - 13/06/2010 04:06:04 AM 1435 Views
Re: I'm not busy at all! Let's murder someone! - 13/06/2010 02:16:40 PM 1461 Views
Why Isaac? *NM* - 13/06/2010 02:47:49 PM 928 Views
I too, unsurprisingly, would like an answer to that *NM* - 13/06/2010 05:48:29 PM 896 Views
Good point. - 13/06/2010 06:20:55 PM 1495 Views
Eh, do we ever get that much out of Day One? - 13/06/2010 06:46:31 PM 1653 Views
Kinda. - 13/06/2010 09:16:56 PM 1543 Views
Actually it's often the most productive day - 13/06/2010 09:26:25 PM 1490 Views
Before I basically disappear from this thread for about a week... - 13/06/2010 08:55:03 PM 1588 Views
Okay, pushing forward - 14/06/2010 04:29:20 PM 1764 Views
Re: Okay, pushing forward - 14/06/2010 06:50:19 PM 1488 Views
Re: Okay, pushing forward - 14/06/2010 10:27:43 PM 1505 Views
EBWOP - 15/06/2010 12:59:20 AM 1807 Views
Yes it's just day 1 - 15/06/2010 01:06:56 AM 1518 Views
Pledge: No; CON: Sure - 15/06/2010 12:31:57 AM 1567 Views
So... - 15/06/2010 01:04:11 AM 1520 Views
If you will allow me to be pedantic. - 15/06/2010 01:24:07 AM 1392 Views
Duly noted - 15/06/2010 01:38:34 AM 1443 Views
Not like they were especially contributive anyway. - 15/06/2010 02:26:34 AM 1438 Views
Re: So... - 15/06/2010 02:29:41 AM 1519 Views
Re: So... - 15/06/2010 07:52:29 AM 1414 Views
Re: So... - 16/06/2010 06:36:22 PM 1607 Views
I think scum might be willing to ask some questions. - 15/06/2010 01:43:57 AM 1464 Views
Yes, they do - 15/06/2010 02:32:57 AM 1477 Views
The pledge I am not very enthused about. - 15/06/2010 01:42:27 AM 1525 Views
Ok, I just want to say I'm sorry for not posting as much as I normally do - 15/06/2010 02:52:31 AM 1349 Views
Okay, now you're just pushing for a No-Lynch in different terms. - 15/06/2010 04:49:26 AM 1513 Views
Also... - 15/06/2010 03:12:18 PM 1563 Views
Well, the role itself is something you would not expect. - 15/06/2010 03:36:33 PM 1614 Views
That's an ambiguous but tantalizing statement... - 15/06/2010 03:59:29 PM 1624 Views
my role and char are consistant - 15/06/2010 10:04:51 AM 1512 Views
Re: my role and char are consistant - 15/06/2010 03:23:10 PM 1581 Views
Do you have a suggestion? *NM* - 15/06/2010 06:10:25 PM 897 Views
On that note... - 16/06/2010 07:02:12 PM 1603 Views
Seeing hwo you're trying to protect me from getting Lynched - 15/06/2010 12:40:27 PM 1450 Views
Re: Seeing hwo you're trying to protect me from getting Lynched - 15/06/2010 04:21:56 PM 1536 Views
Every vanilla is supposed to say yes. - 15/06/2010 06:13:08 PM 1562 Views
Which of course brings about the real problem, which is the opposite of what you say. - 15/06/2010 06:26:42 PM 1492 Views
Let me hold off on answering this, if you don't mind - 15/06/2010 07:14:25 PM 1475 Views
Fine, I'm not in a hurry. *NM* - 15/06/2010 07:17:10 PM 1025 Views
Let me run another possible question by you - 15/06/2010 08:18:33 PM 1505 Views
By the way, this is sort of a revision of white flame's question - 15/06/2010 08:21:32 PM 1359 Views
At first glance, I don't see any problem with it. - 15/06/2010 09:31:44 PM 1548 Views
Let's go with it then - 15/06/2010 09:42:32 PM 1564 Views
Sure. - 15/06/2010 11:28:10 PM 1455 Views
Re: Sure. - 15/06/2010 11:45:37 PM 1426 Views
Ok so I really don't like the idea of the pledge - 15/06/2010 04:27:09 PM 1519 Views
DFs might try to skate through. - 15/06/2010 10:57:06 PM 1601 Views
Actually Gender was mine... *NM* - 16/06/2010 06:31:02 PM 868 Views
Also, yes to con, no to pledge. *NM* - 16/06/2010 07:03:42 PM 938 Views
The Big Info Compilation v 1.0 (Table) - 14/06/2010 07:40:38 PM 1686 Views
to get the game moving - 15/06/2010 08:53:38 PM 1570 Views
go on... *NM* - 15/06/2010 09:38:13 PM 947 Views
its day one, do i realy need a reason? *NM* - 15/06/2010 09:56:59 PM 950 Views
It is customary *NM* - 15/06/2010 10:01:25 PM 956 Views
well... - 15/06/2010 11:04:29 PM 1478 Views
Eh, I think I've been pretty consistent - 16/06/2010 06:35:57 AM 1451 Views
Yeah, I was a bit wary of the way he leapt on Talic too. - 16/06/2010 12:51:30 PM 1549 Views
I actually would think it proves his innocence over anything - 17/06/2010 12:18:04 AM 1610 Views
Next Question - 15/06/2010 09:56:10 PM 1472 Views
Seriously - 15/06/2010 10:58:24 PM 1553 Views
I am willing to answer if others are willing though *NM* - 15/06/2010 10:58:44 PM 927 Views
It's interesting, actually. - 16/06/2010 06:37:41 AM 1576 Views
Debatable. - 15/06/2010 11:00:39 PM 1543 Views
Strong Yes - 16/06/2010 06:38:53 AM 1527 Views
Didn't you already say you were a manly man? - 16/06/2010 12:52:57 PM 1520 Views
Well, he could also be a 'neither' or 'both'. *NM* - 16/06/2010 05:24:26 PM 961 Views
I am large; I contain multitudes - 16/06/2010 07:48:33 PM 1606 Views
HGD- No *NM* - 16/06/2010 12:11:28 PM 851 Views
I find the HDG question vague and polarizing... *NM* - 16/06/2010 07:04:59 PM 948 Views
HDG- yes - 17/06/2010 11:23:18 PM 1515 Views
Who isn't answering questions (Table) - 17/06/2010 03:13:58 PM 1461 Views
oi! - 17/06/2010 07:43:23 PM 1548 Views
Gotcha, fixed it - 17/06/2010 07:50:53 PM 1417 Views
Throw in an oi for me, too - 17/06/2010 11:22:48 PM 1524 Views
One of my answers - 18/06/2010 12:50:15 PM 1466 Views
It won't be too much longer - 18/06/2010 05:25:36 PM 1415 Views
Agreed - 18/06/2010 06:39:35 PM 1466 Views
"It" being my own notes etc, off course *NM* - 18/06/2010 06:42:42 PM 925 Views
Re: Agreed - 18/06/2010 08:02:02 PM 1700 Views
Fox is RBIRL until after this weekend - 18/06/2010 10:06:26 PM 1734 Views
HDG: Plead the 5th - 19/06/2010 09:49:08 AM 1580 Views
No longer RBIRL and will be what I mostly skimmed over in a bit - 19/06/2010 10:00:12 AM 1428 Views
Technical difficulties... back to RBIRL until fixed *NM* - 20/06/2010 12:28:41 AM 902 Views
All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse - 19/06/2010 08:36:14 PM 1461 Views
why just FOS? - 19/06/2010 09:48:25 PM 1449 Views
EBWOP Vote Artsapat - 19/06/2010 09:51:01 PM 1468 Views
I can't vote for two people at once - 19/06/2010 10:12:10 PM 1425 Views
Honestly, I'm in standby at this point. - 20/06/2010 09:31:42 AM 1506 Views
Just for you Beet, a non-acronym version - 20/06/2010 05:13:07 PM 1478 Views
Hah, nice, thanks - 20/06/2010 05:24:15 PM 1513 Views
Welcome *NM* - 20/06/2010 05:24:57 PM 904 Views
Interesting. - 20/06/2010 01:41:40 AM 1639 Views
Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse - 20/06/2010 03:43:46 AM 1553 Views
Okay, admittedly, I haven't been paying that much attention. - 20/06/2010 05:55:51 AM 1503 Views
Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse - 20/06/2010 01:29:43 PM 1557 Views
Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse - 20/06/2010 05:47:45 PM 1475 Views
I'll reply to this in bits, but first: - 20/06/2010 06:09:26 PM 1521 Views
Re: I'll reply to this in bits, but first: - 20/06/2010 06:44:33 PM 1449 Views
I just wanted a one word thingy, so people could type it easy - 20/06/2010 08:15:57 PM 1639 Views
No Comment *NM* - 22/06/2010 11:34:42 PM 891 Views
Let me extend you an offer - 20/06/2010 08:24:11 PM 1588 Views
A typo-less message implies I'm distracted? How? - 21/06/2010 04:41:17 AM 1579 Views
No, you said you were distracted, I said the message looks like you want people to think so - 21/06/2010 04:52:36 AM 1580 Views
I thought I did address the accusation. - 21/06/2010 05:06:41 AM 1480 Views
See, and I know you're gonna think that was an intentional typo to prove a point. It wasn't, honest - 21/06/2010 05:09:05 AM 1645 Views
I'm not really interested in typos one way or another - 21/06/2010 05:16:19 AM 1572 Views
I'm a Barbie girl, in a Barbie world. - 21/06/2010 05:27:27 AM 1550 Views
And now I'm gonna sleep. I'll get to your questions in the morning. - 21/06/2010 05:29:08 AM 1500 Views
Aqua aside, why did you answer UNC for MRE and MCS? - 21/06/2010 05:35:31 AM 1460 Views
Re: Aqua aside, why did you answer UNC for MRE and MCS? - 21/06/2010 02:59:05 PM 1544 Views
MRE seems to be giving a lot of people trouble *NM* - 21/06/2010 05:40:57 PM 932 Views
Maybe ask the question again and try to get confirmation? *NM* - 21/06/2010 06:47:51 PM 887 Views
I think UNC is consistent for MRE for Barbie - 21/06/2010 06:51:13 PM 1515 Views
For the record, I did eventually change my consistency to a yes. - 21/06/2010 07:17:09 PM 1508 Views
Possible, and MCS? - 21/06/2010 07:21:29 PM 1498 Views
Yeah, that's also sketchy. - 21/06/2010 07:28:24 PM 1450 Views
Re: Yeah, that's also sketchy. - 21/06/2010 08:03:27 PM 1491 Views
Kronin's Barbie, but claimed he wasn't a major character? Vote: Kronin - 21/06/2010 11:39:34 PM 1541 Views
I'd like a roleclaim. - 22/06/2010 12:48:13 AM 1511 Views
Honestly, looking back, consistency should've been a yes. - 22/06/2010 01:21:16 AM 1549 Views
Oh, and don't forget about Arty. - 22/06/2010 01:21:49 AM 1537 Views
Each day you can be a different role? That's kind of awesome *NM* - 22/06/2010 07:22:35 AM 933 Views
Well, I knew it would come down to this, as soon as you pointed a finger to me. - 21/06/2010 08:02:42 AM 1470 Views
Might as well explain my answers then. - 21/06/2010 08:52:46 AM 1568 Views
Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse - 20/06/2010 06:37:50 PM 1512 Views
Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse - 21/06/2010 07:57:59 AM 1593 Views
Wow, so I suppose these questions can be used in a town friendly way - 20/06/2010 02:06:15 PM 1547 Views
Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll - 22/06/2010 01:25:27 AM 1501 Views
Now, I'm all in favor of lynching Isaac. - 22/06/2010 01:37:37 AM 1595 Views
"You lie you die" is sound policy not only Day 1, but every Day. - 22/06/2010 01:40:46 AM 1466 Views
Vote: Artsapat - 22/06/2010 05:01:31 AM 1397 Views
Hey, that's a good idea. Vote: Artsapat *NM* - 22/06/2010 05:18:21 AM 895 Views
Re: Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll - 22/06/2010 01:43:07 AM 1459 Views
I suppose I'll join in - 22/06/2010 01:45:48 AM 1520 Views
I'm not gonna deny that I deserve this. - 22/06/2010 03:24:38 AM 1471 Views
- 22/06/2010 03:52:33 AM 1503 Views
Oh man, that was hilarious. - 22/06/2010 03:54:58 AM 1458 Views
Re: Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll - 22/06/2010 04:15:44 AM 1451 Views
Re: Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll - 22/06/2010 04:31:27 AM 1479 Views
Yea! Kill Kronin! - 22/06/2010 04:56:58 AM 1471 Views
No offense meant, bro. *NM* - 22/06/2010 05:45:22 PM 904 Views
My answers to the 2 questions asked... - 20/06/2010 05:31:22 PM 1448 Views
Just out of curiosity... - 20/06/2010 05:57:00 PM 1445 Views
Re: Just out of curiosity... - 20/06/2010 06:42:38 PM 1479 Views
Vote Table - 21/06/2010 08:51:45 PM 1429 Views
Well, I suppose the sensible thing to do here is lynch Kronin. - 22/06/2010 04:08:46 AM 1422 Views
I told you, main character was my bad. - 22/06/2010 04:20:08 AM 1408 Views
OK, I'll hammer this - 22/06/2010 07:29:38 AM 1407 Views
Kronin al'Sulc has been lynched - 22/06/2010 01:44:22 PM 1538 Views
a slight delay - 25/06/2010 05:55:03 AM 1487 Views
Re: a slight delay - 25/06/2010 07:28:21 AM 1482 Views
No worries, take your time - 25/06/2010 02:02:58 PM 1461 Views

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