None of us will count it as a loss if we lynch the jester, a win for her, sure, if she is one, we kill her and she dumps into Amys or Hobo's body with a win, game continues. It's not like the town or scum have to go "Oh, just second place" if they win, it's still a win. If we don't lynch her, we leave this up as a possible future roleclaim for safety and it might encourages other mods to use the role. Long term, our best option is to nuke these sort of roles on principle.
But this all assumes she really is a jester, and she hasn't claimed that. She says she's not a vig, she says she did attack Napoleon... ironically she also said she didn't get a dawn/dusk message, which if she attacked Napoleon seems fairly unlikely, though he may have simply communicated the result via day 2 intro post.
Point being, she could have gotten herself lynched easily on day 1, or today, without drawing suspicion. In fact, were she a jester, winning by lynch but not NK, she should have tried hard yesterday, where it takes little effort to get oneself lynched and there's no chance of falling prey to a NK. She had three weeks to have come up with a method, all the while having me pan out series of way in which to have done it, but she made no attempt at all. Any of those questions, she could have arranged to have made contradictory and expected to draw attention. MRE Yes? Well nothing but high fantasy and scifi then. MCS No, claim Superman as your setting, instead of the wider DC. Getting lynched on day 1 isn't that hard, yet nothing in her posts seems designed to have gone that route. I don't see it. I could see her treading too lightly out of fear of sparking Jester worries if she'd gone all out, but one would expect to see something in her style yesterday indicating some attempt to draw suspicion.
I want to hear her response, but somehow I don't think she's trying to get lynched, and even if she is, I don't see any reason not to oblige her, it gains us valuable information, her 'faction' gets wiped out, she returns as an inactive player, we proceed safely knowing it's a two party game.
But this all assumes she really is a jester, and she hasn't claimed that. She says she's not a vig, she says she did attack Napoleon... ironically she also said she didn't get a dawn/dusk message, which if she attacked Napoleon seems fairly unlikely, though he may have simply communicated the result via day 2 intro post.
Point being, she could have gotten herself lynched easily on day 1, or today, without drawing suspicion. In fact, were she a jester, winning by lynch but not NK, she should have tried hard yesterday, where it takes little effort to get oneself lynched and there's no chance of falling prey to a NK. She had three weeks to have come up with a method, all the while having me pan out series of way in which to have done it, but she made no attempt at all. Any of those questions, she could have arranged to have made contradictory and expected to draw attention. MRE Yes? Well nothing but high fantasy and scifi then. MCS No, claim Superman as your setting, instead of the wider DC. Getting lynched on day 1 isn't that hard, yet nothing in her posts seems designed to have gone that route. I don't see it. I could see her treading too lightly out of fear of sparking Jester worries if she'd gone all out, but one would expect to see something in her style yesterday indicating some attempt to draw suspicion.
I want to hear her response, but somehow I don't think she's trying to get lynched, and even if she is, I don't see any reason not to oblige her, it gains us valuable information, her 'faction' gets wiped out, she returns as an inactive player, we proceed safely knowing it's a two party game.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
RAFO Mafia 17, Day 2: Stayin' Alive
- 26/06/2010 07:39:13 AM
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Ah ah ah ah stayin' aliiiiiiiiiiiiive
- 26/06/2010 03:48:30 PM
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I as well was attacked
- 26/06/2010 09:00:28 PM
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A beast? That's interesting
- 26/06/2010 10:08:33 PM
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If we can identify it from a particular series, we might be able to nab the attacker. *NM*
- 26/06/2010 10:14:45 PM
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Alright here is a repost of yesterday's info
- 26/06/2010 10:22:58 PM
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Alright, Here comes some analysis out the wazoo.
- 27/06/2010 06:35:59 PM
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Yes, it was a beast
- 26/06/2010 11:19:13 PM
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Was it a werewolf?
- 26/06/2010 11:30:27 PM
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No evidence to suggest it was...
- 26/06/2010 11:44:35 PM
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Re: No evidence to suggest it was...
- 26/06/2010 11:49:00 PM
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I know how I was saved
- 27/06/2010 12:02:39 AM
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Re: I know how I was saved
- 27/06/2010 12:21:59 AM
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A few ideas
- 27/06/2010 12:36:45 AM
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Re: A few ideas
- 27/06/2010 01:06:11 AM
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So, I guess Kronin/Blaine should provide their info now to the questions from yesterday
- 26/06/2010 05:05:17 PM
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Alright, questions.
- 26/06/2010 06:04:13 PM
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You forgot HDG *NM*
- 26/06/2010 11:43:40 PM
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Which is.... *NM*
- 27/06/2010 12:53:22 AM
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Going back to yesterday
- 26/06/2010 10:16:23 PM
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I am still in fact suspicious of Isaac
- 26/06/2010 11:21:58 PM
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damn
- 26/06/2010 11:33:59 PM
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Yeah, I think he should divulge. *NM*
- 27/06/2010 04:11:13 AM
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EBWOP - Elaboration.
- 27/06/2010 04:12:44 AM
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FINE. FINE. FINE
- 27/06/2010 12:27:33 PM
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Whyyyyyyyyyy
- 27/06/2010 05:34:05 PM
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This is pretty much what I expected...
- 27/06/2010 08:29:43 PM
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I'm inclined to believe his claim
- 27/06/2010 11:47:29 PM
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Well, he could be a threat as a pretty probable pro-town player, if we accept his claim.
- 28/06/2010 06:00:32 AM
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Since no one seems to have listened to my dying shouts.
- 27/06/2010 01:03:10 AM
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I hadn't really thought of that
- 27/06/2010 01:31:01 AM
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Short post, with elaboration to come later.
- 27/06/2010 03:00:43 PM
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Okay, elaboration time.
- 27/06/2010 06:19:49 PM
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Re: Okay, elaboration time.
- 28/06/2010 02:39:54 AM
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Now, what I want to know.
- 28/06/2010 04:47:17 AM
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Your basically wildly speculating with an assumption of guilt
- 28/06/2010 06:00:53 AM
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You're not seeing my point.
- 28/06/2010 05:46:59 PM
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Re: You're not seeing my point.
- 28/06/2010 06:39:05 PM
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Okay, fair enough. I guess onto other points for now.
- 28/06/2010 07:28:02 PM
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It's also possible that there are multiple characters from the same setting. *NM*
- 28/06/2010 08:58:35 PM
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So, where'd the night kill go?
- 28/06/2010 10:01:00 PM
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You know, I find that reaction a bit odd, and it adds to my suspicion of Isaac
- 28/06/2010 10:39:09 PM
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That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them
- 29/06/2010 05:46:12 AM
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Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them
- 29/06/2010 06:16:58 AM
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Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them
- 29/06/2010 06:33:22 AM
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Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them
- 29/06/2010 06:57:08 AM
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Hypocop Table!
- 27/06/2010 05:37:07 PM
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Staying Alive indeed
- 28/06/2010 12:31:47 PM
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Congrats to you, and I shall also Vote Chair: Darth_Katie
- 28/06/2010 10:15:32 PM
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Two things:
- 28/06/2010 10:34:31 PM
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For what it's worth, there was a third fraction in that game though.
- 28/06/2010 10:45:08 PM
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Also
- 28/06/2010 11:07:34 PM
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Yunalesca - innocent *NM*
- 28/06/2010 12:33:03 PM
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EBWOP - Why can't I post ANYthing in the right place? Just disregard, I'll repost in the Table *NM*
- 28/06/2010 01:28:10 PM
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Voting record.
- 28/06/2010 10:03:33 PM
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And according to ranagrande, the VNTL was just 7, with Amys, Blaine, Hobo, and Talic all inactive. *NM*
- 28/06/2010 10:17:25 PM
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you guys are so slow on the uptake you know *NM*
- 28/06/2010 10:43:58 PM
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And you've only realized that now?
- 28/06/2010 10:56:57 PM
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- 28/06/2010 10:56:57 PM
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read my posts carefully
- 28/06/2010 11:01:45 PM
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Okay, let's do that
- 29/06/2010 06:10:28 AM
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I'm a bit interested in hearing from the quiet ones
- 29/06/2010 07:31:32 AM
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Re: I'm a bit interested in hearing from the quiet ones
- 29/06/2010 04:27:18 PM
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i confessed to being the beast *NM*
- 29/06/2010 04:36:40 PM
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Well, that... doesn't sound smart.
- 29/06/2010 04:48:22 PM
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I mean, this is just an obvious way to get yourself lynched.
- 29/06/2010 04:48:49 PM
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I'm guessing she got bored with the game and wants us to lynch her *NM*
- 29/06/2010 06:26:22 PM
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Sorry. I've been so busy.
- 30/06/2010 12:54:17 AM
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Re: Sorry. I've been so busy.
- 30/06/2010 12:57:48 AM
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Re: Sorry. I've been so busy.
- 30/06/2010 01:23:06 AM
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Then please repeat it for me.
- 30/06/2010 02:08:28 AM
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I always thought it was
- 30/06/2010 02:49:57 AM
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Re: I always thought it was
- 30/06/2010 03:46:22 AM
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I didn't think there was anything that made Napoleon stand out Yesterday either.
- 30/06/2010 04:32:25 AM
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That whole thing would have worked if Yuna didn't have psychopathic flavortext...
- 30/06/2010 04:15:01 AM
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I've never heard of the rule and would actually think it anti-town for the vig not to kill
- 30/06/2010 04:34:10 AM
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Because it isn't like a lynch at all.
- 30/06/2010 06:30:04 AM
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the quiet ones...
- 01/07/2010 09:58:52 AM
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Some advice
- 01/07/2010 12:40:13 PM
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You're probably right...
- 01/07/2010 01:41:13 PM
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This has definitely been going slower than normal. Hopefully it will pick up soon.
- 02/07/2010 08:57:26 PM
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Does this damn thing work yet? >.< *NM*
- 29/06/2010 07:36:31 PM
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Holy crap it does, my account has been bugged for a little bit now and wouldnt post anything =/
- 29/06/2010 07:40:28 PM
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So, Yuna. What's your game?
- 30/06/2010 04:16:28 AM
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*laughs*
- 30/06/2010 10:30:38 AM
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Darn, I had my finger crossed for Oz, Seth Green's werewolf character in Buffy
- 30/06/2010 01:46:01 PM
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Let me just say this: If she is a Jester...
- 30/06/2010 04:10:23 PM
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I agree
- 30/06/2010 05:20:18 PM
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It seems win-win either way
- 30/06/2010 06:29:41 PM
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Screw the Jesters.
- 30/06/2010 07:22:59 PM
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It's a defense against getting lynched only if we don't have any other ways of getting rid of them
- 30/06/2010 09:12:09 PM
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Too much room for error, plus it leaves it open for future claims
- 30/06/2010 10:04:56 PM
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I almost want to say let's just ignore her... except she apparently has a NK. Lynch her, I guess
- 01/07/2010 04:10:05 AM
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Re: I almost want to say let's just ignore her... except she apparently has a NK. Lynch her, I guess
- 01/07/2010 05:43:01 AM
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Jester's are awful. They ruin the game.
- 01/07/2010 06:26:39 AM
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That apostrophe is driving me insane *NM*
- 02/07/2010 01:51:23 AM
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I didn't want to say anything. Too bad you can't edit posts
. *NM*
- 02/07/2010 01:56:57 AM
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I didn't want to say anything. Too bad you can't edit posts
. *NM*
- 02/07/2010 01:56:57 AM
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I'll allow you to edit that one if you wish to.
- 02/07/2010 04:00:05 AM
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Sigh... check the history of that post for part 2 of the comedy of errors *NM*
- 02/07/2010 04:12:33 AM
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unfortunatly im RBIRL
- 01/07/2010 10:11:22 AM
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It's the Independence Day weekend in the US, too, so
- 01/07/2010 04:55:44 PM
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Testing... (Table)
- 01/07/2010 05:18:38 PM
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Anyone can do that?
- 01/07/2010 05:26:48 PM
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Re: Anyone can do that?
- 01/07/2010 05:34:20 PM
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hmm
- 01/07/2010 05:28:35 PM
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Oh, you have to get a membership
- 01/07/2010 05:36:46 PM
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Re: Oh, you have to get a membership
- 01/07/2010 06:03:21 PM
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I am SO cheap.
- 01/07/2010 06:42:15 PM
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I donated to the site
- 02/07/2010 08:32:55 AM
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Darth_Katie has been elected Chair
- 01/07/2010 06:07:37 PM
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So... why not just vote for Yuna and end the day?
- 03/07/2010 05:56:18 AM
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I think we might've already?
- 03/07/2010 06:38:55 AM
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I think you misspelled Yunalesca as Yunalesa
- 03/07/2010 12:01:26 PM
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- 03/07/2010 04:21:54 PM
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- 03/07/2010 04:21:54 PM
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Nah, I'm not that much of a stickler for spelling
- 03/07/2010 05:35:16 PM
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.....? *NM*
- 03/07/2010 05:50:14 PM
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Someone must have blocked her vote
- 03/07/2010 07:19:50 PM
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Could be the other way 'round...
- 03/07/2010 09:20:15 PM
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Re: Could be the other way 'round...
- 03/07/2010 10:37:10 PM
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Re:
- 03/07/2010 07:07:20 PM
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- 03/07/2010 07:07:20 PM
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Maybe
- 03/07/2010 07:19:55 PM
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Whatever happened happened between edits 5 and 6 on the vote table
- 03/07/2010 07:28:33 PM
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Let's try focusing on Yuna again, see if we can make this make sense
- 04/07/2010 12:08:48 AM
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She's not answering cause she's an unstated RBIRL.
- 04/07/2010 12:27:34 AM
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Re: She's not answering cause she's an unstated RBIRL.
- 04/07/2010 12:58:52 AM
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Well, actually kill her.
- 04/07/2010 01:04:41 AM
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Re: Well, actually kill her.
- 04/07/2010 01:09:16 AM
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That might do it
- 04/07/2010 01:12:45 AM
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Anybody else maybe just want to vote to get this definitely over with? *NM*
- 04/07/2010 01:33:44 AM
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I definitely don't want to vote her
- 04/07/2010 04:10:07 AM
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Agreed...
- 04/07/2010 05:30:31 AM
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Explain that
- 04/07/2010 02:38:01 PM
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*cackles wickedly*
- 06/07/2010 04:24:01 AM
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For the record, not really supposed to post in this thread after the Day's over.
*NM*
- 06/07/2010 04:48:29 AM
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*NM*
- 06/07/2010 04:48:29 AM
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Napoleon's MIA, as far as I can tell.
- 04/07/2010 02:31:38 AM
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Re: Napoleon's MIA, as far as I can tell.
- 04/07/2010 03:34:55 AM
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Does it really matter if she wins?
- 04/07/2010 03:39:43 AM
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It means we waste a lynch though.
- 04/07/2010 04:11:50 AM
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You seem to be assuming that if she's a jester the DFs will kill her
- 04/07/2010 04:20:13 AM
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Ohhhhh I think I figured out what happened to me.
- 04/07/2010 05:28:32 AM
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If it's a vote steal, rather than a block...
- 04/07/2010 05:55:49 AM
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I think a steal makes more sense with the money transaction.
- 04/07/2010 06:09:50 AM
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Don't know if that would work...
- 04/07/2010 06:24:17 AM
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It's Artsapat, has to be
- 04/07/2010 02:32:16 PM
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I don't know anything about the Million Dollar Man
- 04/07/2010 03:28:19 PM
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On the other hand, that seems like such a scummy thing to do, steal somebody's vote. *NM*
- 04/07/2010 03:29:55 PM
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That was my thought also,
- 04/07/2010 06:07:49 PM
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Re: That was my thought also,
- 04/07/2010 06:16:34 PM
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- 04/07/2010 06:41:56 PM
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- 04/07/2010 06:41:56 PM
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Actually
- 05/07/2010 03:46:42 PM
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