Let's try focusing on Yuna again, see if we can make this make sense
Isaac Send a noteboard - 04/07/2010 12:08:48 AM
For the moment, I'm just going to assume she's town, and that she's telling us the truth on everything. Needless to say, I really doubt this, but let's try it and run through some options
She says she is not the vig, but attacked Napoleon, she also says she'd not a Heroic Do Gooder but is from Modern Earth and DC-verse.
Option #1 - Paranoid Gun Owner - Attacks anyone who targets them at night. Probelm here is that if Napoleon is a doc and targeted her, she would have attacked and killed him, but he isn't dead and he says he docced himself, not her.
Option #2 - Bomb - This person kills anyone who NKs them, but same logic, how could Napoleon defend himself if he targeted her?
Option #3 - Super Saint - Kills a hammer vote on them, he never voted for her let alone hammered her.
That's the 3 town killing role, Army veteran and PGO being identical, and she says she's not a vig. Now, she could have had a one-shot kill, but I don't see her expending that on night 1. We also have the elite bodyguard, who can kill or has a chance to kill, anyone who targets their ward. A paranoid version of this is possible, maybe a cross of the PGO and the EBG, attacking anyone who targets their ward, so that if a doc targeted X, and our paranoid guard targeted X, the paranoid guard attacks them. Again though, this breaks down if Napoleon is telling the truth, and targeted himself.
That's really it for town-based roles that can attack someone. I for one think something about this whole situation stinks, I'm sure we all do, but I suspect it makes sense too, as some sort of plot, and it's either really good or really bad but looked really good to whoever was behind it. Neither Napoleon or Yunalesca have spoken up recently, and that's pretty weird. Why hasn't Napoleon voted for Yunalesca? I mean, I could see him wanting to hold his vote for more info, but he hasn't even talked about it.
Weird options? I can think of plenty but most have huge gaping flaws in them... they may still have been done, plotting as a scummer is much harder than it might look like, plans go awry because the loophole in your plot turns out to be big enough to drive a truck through, see game 4 "Cor Amon claims mason" for an example, or Shaido half-doc, or Gher accuses cult ally, and so on. So it could be something really dumb. Even as a jester role, this is a very bad way to get yourself lynched. I can think of a dozen ways to get oneself lynched without ever raising the specter of the jester, sure wouldn't claim DC-comics with the joker coming to mind so easily either.
Pretty much no matter how you cut it though, Yuna is anti-town, and she's not answering questions, so waiting is a waste of time. Worst case scenario we kill off a town role who's acting really anti-town, most likely she's an anti-town or scum role though.
She says she is not the vig, but attacked Napoleon, she also says she'd not a Heroic Do Gooder but is from Modern Earth and DC-verse.
Option #1 - Paranoid Gun Owner - Attacks anyone who targets them at night. Probelm here is that if Napoleon is a doc and targeted her, she would have attacked and killed him, but he isn't dead and he says he docced himself, not her.
Option #2 - Bomb - This person kills anyone who NKs them, but same logic, how could Napoleon defend himself if he targeted her?
Option #3 - Super Saint - Kills a hammer vote on them, he never voted for her let alone hammered her.
That's the 3 town killing role, Army veteran and PGO being identical, and she says she's not a vig. Now, she could have had a one-shot kill, but I don't see her expending that on night 1. We also have the elite bodyguard, who can kill or has a chance to kill, anyone who targets their ward. A paranoid version of this is possible, maybe a cross of the PGO and the EBG, attacking anyone who targets their ward, so that if a doc targeted X, and our paranoid guard targeted X, the paranoid guard attacks them. Again though, this breaks down if Napoleon is telling the truth, and targeted himself.
That's really it for town-based roles that can attack someone. I for one think something about this whole situation stinks, I'm sure we all do, but I suspect it makes sense too, as some sort of plot, and it's either really good or really bad but looked really good to whoever was behind it. Neither Napoleon or Yunalesca have spoken up recently, and that's pretty weird. Why hasn't Napoleon voted for Yunalesca? I mean, I could see him wanting to hold his vote for more info, but he hasn't even talked about it.
Weird options? I can think of plenty but most have huge gaping flaws in them... they may still have been done, plotting as a scummer is much harder than it might look like, plans go awry because the loophole in your plot turns out to be big enough to drive a truck through, see game 4 "Cor Amon claims mason" for an example, or Shaido half-doc, or Gher accuses cult ally, and so on. So it could be something really dumb. Even as a jester role, this is a very bad way to get yourself lynched. I can think of a dozen ways to get oneself lynched without ever raising the specter of the jester, sure wouldn't claim DC-comics with the joker coming to mind so easily either.
Pretty much no matter how you cut it though, Yuna is anti-town, and she's not answering questions, so waiting is a waste of time. Worst case scenario we kill off a town role who's acting really anti-town, most likely she's an anti-town or scum role though.
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RAFO Mafia 17, Day 2: Stayin' Alive
- 26/06/2010 07:39:13 AM
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Ah ah ah ah stayin' aliiiiiiiiiiiiive
- 26/06/2010 03:48:30 PM
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I as well was attacked
- 26/06/2010 09:00:28 PM
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A beast? That's interesting
- 26/06/2010 10:08:33 PM
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If we can identify it from a particular series, we might be able to nab the attacker. *NM*
- 26/06/2010 10:14:45 PM
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Alright here is a repost of yesterday's info
- 26/06/2010 10:22:58 PM
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Alright, Here comes some analysis out the wazoo.
- 27/06/2010 06:35:59 PM
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Yes, it was a beast
- 26/06/2010 11:19:13 PM
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Was it a werewolf?
- 26/06/2010 11:30:27 PM
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No evidence to suggest it was...
- 26/06/2010 11:44:35 PM
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Re: No evidence to suggest it was...
- 26/06/2010 11:49:00 PM
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I know how I was saved
- 27/06/2010 12:02:39 AM
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Re: I know how I was saved
- 27/06/2010 12:21:59 AM
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A few ideas
- 27/06/2010 12:36:45 AM
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Re: A few ideas
- 27/06/2010 01:06:11 AM
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So, I guess Kronin/Blaine should provide their info now to the questions from yesterday
- 26/06/2010 05:05:17 PM
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Alright, questions.
- 26/06/2010 06:04:13 PM
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You forgot HDG *NM*
- 26/06/2010 11:43:40 PM
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Which is.... *NM*
- 27/06/2010 12:53:22 AM
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Going back to yesterday
- 26/06/2010 10:16:23 PM
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I am still in fact suspicious of Isaac
- 26/06/2010 11:21:58 PM
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damn
- 26/06/2010 11:33:59 PM
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Yeah, I think he should divulge. *NM*
- 27/06/2010 04:11:13 AM
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EBWOP - Elaboration.
- 27/06/2010 04:12:44 AM
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FINE. FINE. FINE
- 27/06/2010 12:27:33 PM
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Whyyyyyyyyyy
- 27/06/2010 05:34:05 PM
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This is pretty much what I expected...
- 27/06/2010 08:29:43 PM
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I'm inclined to believe his claim
- 27/06/2010 11:47:29 PM
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Well, he could be a threat as a pretty probable pro-town player, if we accept his claim.
- 28/06/2010 06:00:32 AM
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Since no one seems to have listened to my dying shouts.
- 27/06/2010 01:03:10 AM
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I hadn't really thought of that
- 27/06/2010 01:31:01 AM
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Short post, with elaboration to come later.
- 27/06/2010 03:00:43 PM
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Okay, elaboration time.
- 27/06/2010 06:19:49 PM
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Re: Okay, elaboration time.
- 28/06/2010 02:39:54 AM
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Now, what I want to know.
- 28/06/2010 04:47:17 AM
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Your basically wildly speculating with an assumption of guilt
- 28/06/2010 06:00:53 AM
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You're not seeing my point.
- 28/06/2010 05:46:59 PM
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Re: You're not seeing my point.
- 28/06/2010 06:39:05 PM
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Okay, fair enough. I guess onto other points for now.
- 28/06/2010 07:28:02 PM
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It's also possible that there are multiple characters from the same setting. *NM*
- 28/06/2010 08:58:35 PM
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So, where'd the night kill go?
- 28/06/2010 10:01:00 PM
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You know, I find that reaction a bit odd, and it adds to my suspicion of Isaac
- 28/06/2010 10:39:09 PM
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That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them
- 29/06/2010 05:46:12 AM
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Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them
- 29/06/2010 06:16:58 AM
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Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them
- 29/06/2010 06:33:22 AM
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Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them
- 29/06/2010 06:57:08 AM
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Hypocop Table!
- 27/06/2010 05:37:07 PM
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Staying Alive indeed
- 28/06/2010 12:31:47 PM
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Congrats to you, and I shall also Vote Chair: Darth_Katie
- 28/06/2010 10:15:32 PM
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Two things:
- 28/06/2010 10:34:31 PM
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For what it's worth, there was a third fraction in that game though.
- 28/06/2010 10:45:08 PM
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Also
- 28/06/2010 11:07:34 PM
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Yunalesca - innocent *NM*
- 28/06/2010 12:33:03 PM
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EBWOP - Why can't I post ANYthing in the right place? Just disregard, I'll repost in the Table *NM*
- 28/06/2010 01:28:10 PM
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Voting record.
- 28/06/2010 10:03:33 PM
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And according to ranagrande, the VNTL was just 7, with Amys, Blaine, Hobo, and Talic all inactive. *NM*
- 28/06/2010 10:17:25 PM
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you guys are so slow on the uptake you know *NM*
- 28/06/2010 10:43:58 PM
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And you've only realized that now?
- 28/06/2010 10:56:57 PM
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- 28/06/2010 10:56:57 PM
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read my posts carefully
- 28/06/2010 11:01:45 PM
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Okay, let's do that
- 29/06/2010 06:10:28 AM
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I'm a bit interested in hearing from the quiet ones
- 29/06/2010 07:31:32 AM
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Re: I'm a bit interested in hearing from the quiet ones
- 29/06/2010 04:27:18 PM
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i confessed to being the beast *NM*
- 29/06/2010 04:36:40 PM
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Well, that... doesn't sound smart.
- 29/06/2010 04:48:22 PM
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I mean, this is just an obvious way to get yourself lynched.
- 29/06/2010 04:48:49 PM
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I'm guessing she got bored with the game and wants us to lynch her *NM*
- 29/06/2010 06:26:22 PM
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Sorry. I've been so busy.
- 30/06/2010 12:54:17 AM
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Re: Sorry. I've been so busy.
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Re: Sorry. I've been so busy.
- 30/06/2010 01:23:06 AM
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Then please repeat it for me.
- 30/06/2010 02:08:28 AM
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I always thought it was
- 30/06/2010 02:49:57 AM
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Re: I always thought it was
- 30/06/2010 03:46:22 AM
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I didn't think there was anything that made Napoleon stand out Yesterday either.
- 30/06/2010 04:32:25 AM
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That whole thing would have worked if Yuna didn't have psychopathic flavortext...
- 30/06/2010 04:15:01 AM
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I've never heard of the rule and would actually think it anti-town for the vig not to kill
- 30/06/2010 04:34:10 AM
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Because it isn't like a lynch at all.
- 30/06/2010 06:30:04 AM
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the quiet ones...
- 01/07/2010 09:58:52 AM
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Some advice
- 01/07/2010 12:40:13 PM
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You're probably right...
- 01/07/2010 01:41:13 PM
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This has definitely been going slower than normal. Hopefully it will pick up soon.
- 02/07/2010 08:57:26 PM
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Does this damn thing work yet? >.< *NM*
- 29/06/2010 07:36:31 PM
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Holy crap it does, my account has been bugged for a little bit now and wouldnt post anything =/
- 29/06/2010 07:40:28 PM
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So, Yuna. What's your game?
- 30/06/2010 04:16:28 AM
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*laughs*
- 30/06/2010 10:30:38 AM
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Darn, I had my finger crossed for Oz, Seth Green's werewolf character in Buffy
- 30/06/2010 01:46:01 PM
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Let me just say this: If she is a Jester...
- 30/06/2010 04:10:23 PM
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I agree
- 30/06/2010 05:20:18 PM
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Screw the Jesters.
- 30/06/2010 07:22:59 PM
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It's a defense against getting lynched only if we don't have any other ways of getting rid of them
- 30/06/2010 09:12:09 PM
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Too much room for error, plus it leaves it open for future claims
- 30/06/2010 10:04:56 PM
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I almost want to say let's just ignore her... except she apparently has a NK. Lynch her, I guess
- 01/07/2010 04:10:05 AM
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Re: I almost want to say let's just ignore her... except she apparently has a NK. Lynch her, I guess
- 01/07/2010 05:43:01 AM
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Jester's are awful. They ruin the game.
- 01/07/2010 06:26:39 AM
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That apostrophe is driving me insane *NM*
- 02/07/2010 01:51:23 AM
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I didn't want to say anything. Too bad you can't edit posts
. *NM*
- 02/07/2010 01:56:57 AM
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I didn't want to say anything. Too bad you can't edit posts
. *NM*
- 02/07/2010 01:56:57 AM
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I'll allow you to edit that one if you wish to.
- 02/07/2010 04:00:05 AM
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Sigh... check the history of that post for part 2 of the comedy of errors *NM*
- 02/07/2010 04:12:33 AM
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unfortunatly im RBIRL
- 01/07/2010 10:11:22 AM
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It's the Independence Day weekend in the US, too, so
- 01/07/2010 04:55:44 PM
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Testing... (Table)
- 01/07/2010 05:18:38 PM
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Anyone can do that?
- 01/07/2010 05:26:48 PM
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Re: Anyone can do that?
- 01/07/2010 05:34:20 PM
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hmm
- 01/07/2010 05:28:35 PM
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Oh, you have to get a membership
- 01/07/2010 05:36:46 PM
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Re: Oh, you have to get a membership
- 01/07/2010 06:03:21 PM
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I am SO cheap.
- 01/07/2010 06:42:15 PM
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I donated to the site
- 02/07/2010 08:32:55 AM
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Darth_Katie has been elected Chair
- 01/07/2010 06:07:37 PM
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So... why not just vote for Yuna and end the day?
- 03/07/2010 05:56:18 AM
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I think we might've already?
- 03/07/2010 06:38:55 AM
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I think you misspelled Yunalesca as Yunalesa
- 03/07/2010 12:01:26 PM
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- 03/07/2010 04:21:54 PM
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- 03/07/2010 04:21:54 PM
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Nah, I'm not that much of a stickler for spelling
- 03/07/2010 05:35:16 PM
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.....? *NM*
- 03/07/2010 05:50:14 PM
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Someone must have blocked her vote
- 03/07/2010 07:19:50 PM
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Could be the other way 'round...
- 03/07/2010 09:20:15 PM
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Re: Could be the other way 'round...
- 03/07/2010 10:37:10 PM
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Re:
- 03/07/2010 07:07:20 PM
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- 03/07/2010 07:07:20 PM
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Maybe
- 03/07/2010 07:19:55 PM
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Whatever happened happened between edits 5 and 6 on the vote table
- 03/07/2010 07:28:33 PM
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Let's try focusing on Yuna again, see if we can make this make sense
- 04/07/2010 12:08:48 AM
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She's not answering cause she's an unstated RBIRL.
- 04/07/2010 12:27:34 AM
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Re: She's not answering cause she's an unstated RBIRL.
- 04/07/2010 12:58:52 AM
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Well, actually kill her.
- 04/07/2010 01:04:41 AM
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Re: Well, actually kill her.
- 04/07/2010 01:09:16 AM
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That might do it
- 04/07/2010 01:12:45 AM
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Anybody else maybe just want to vote to get this definitely over with? *NM*
- 04/07/2010 01:33:44 AM
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I definitely don't want to vote her
- 04/07/2010 04:10:07 AM
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Agreed...
- 04/07/2010 05:30:31 AM
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Explain that
- 04/07/2010 02:38:01 PM
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*cackles wickedly*
- 06/07/2010 04:24:01 AM
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For the record, not really supposed to post in this thread after the Day's over.
*NM*
- 06/07/2010 04:48:29 AM
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*NM*
- 06/07/2010 04:48:29 AM
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Napoleon's MIA, as far as I can tell.
- 04/07/2010 02:31:38 AM
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Re: Napoleon's MIA, as far as I can tell.
- 04/07/2010 03:34:55 AM
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Does it really matter if she wins?
- 04/07/2010 03:39:43 AM
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It means we waste a lynch though.
- 04/07/2010 04:11:50 AM
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You seem to be assuming that if she's a jester the DFs will kill her
- 04/07/2010 04:20:13 AM
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Ohhhhh I think I figured out what happened to me.
- 04/07/2010 05:28:32 AM
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If it's a vote steal, rather than a block...
- 04/07/2010 05:55:49 AM
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I think a steal makes more sense with the money transaction.
- 04/07/2010 06:09:50 AM
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Don't know if that would work...
- 04/07/2010 06:24:17 AM
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It's Artsapat, has to be
- 04/07/2010 02:32:16 PM
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I don't know anything about the Million Dollar Man
- 04/07/2010 03:28:19 PM
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On the other hand, that seems like such a scummy thing to do, steal somebody's vote. *NM*
- 04/07/2010 03:29:55 PM
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That was my thought also,
- 04/07/2010 06:07:49 PM
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Re: That was my thought also,
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- 04/07/2010 06:41:56 PM
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- 04/07/2010 06:41:56 PM
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Actually
- 05/07/2010 03:46:42 PM
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