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6/7 or 5/7 games with named characters it was a horrible gauge Isaac Send a noteboard - 24/08/2012 05:20:23 AM
I think it's very nearly if not more common then good=town bad=scum.

Yeah, I'm going to ask for a reference on that.


We have to go only by games in which their were named characters. We never even referenced named characters that I recall until your game 5 set at the battle near Tar Valon and my game 8 where we were in a town on Mat and Rand's book 1 journey path. Both games NPCs appeared as NPCs only in passing. So we can eliminate all of the first 9 games. Actually until Game 16 there is no by name reference to any established character except game 12 by Katie... where you and I got mason'd as [shudder] Twilight characters... IIRC you thought I was a scummer. However DK's game the baddies were pretty much bad and the good guys were mostly good. So in the first 15 games, 1 known character game, mostly good v bad, straigfht up.

Game 16, Mad Maud, named for a character in the series albeit a tangential one... I tihnk we may take for a given that implied alignment by book parallel was definitely non-functional there but no named character alignment. Prior to that incidentally was Gher's Robot game which had to be the most prime example of Red Herring by Mod.

Roughly around this time we had the RP mafia game, you and I aligned, and the 'townies' were all dark friends and IIRC we were book characters or tied around the Book 2 WoT prologue, whcihever I tr ynot to tihnk of that game much

So 1 exmaple, up to Game 17 - CRossover Game 2 (Katie's was #1) by Rana... yeah... just gonna link the role message summary form that one. I'm calling that 1-1 though, even excluding the cult making character judgement irrelevant I don't think "Captain Morgan, Rum Guy" is too indicative of scum nor Inspector Javert a default good guy but he was town... and that was the one where we had to kill Yuna like three times.

Moving on... #18, you again, Pirate v Ninjas... no named characters though IIRC there was a day 1 scum-turning relic.

Our third named character game is #19... Beet's game, already discussed that one, scum had ironclad named character hero claims, SKrull or not is irrelavant to context... so 2-1

#20, Yuna, named characters, anime so I cna't really discuss, ask her though, but I think it qualifies too, still call it neutral for now, 2-1-1

#21 - DK - the actual first game with real townies, but no named characters, and the first with the mod as a real NPC, mayor Katie. Good game but not applicable

#22 - Kronin, the Greek mythology game... yeah, no brainer on that one, Korinin had Plato and Socrates as scum and townie and cited his reason as "By the way, the reason Socrates was evil, while Plato was not is just that, honestly, I don't like Socrates. He's kind of a dick."

So 3-1-1

#23... Dresden Files... well that is a given

4-1-1

Game #24 - Yours, you tell me on that I don't recall that being named though

#25 - Rana, Mistborn - Not named character sin that either, except as modificaitons of ourselves, feel obliged to point out we were the nobles in mistborn as townies, very definitely not good=town there.

#26 - Jon's first mod, MacBeth, IIRC the bad guys were the sons of the king... nominally considered good guys in the tale.

5-1-1

#27, you again, no named characters.

PResent... so 5-1-1 and either 6-1 or 5-2, let Yuna decide, meaning that character alignment and role alignment were bad mutual gauges in at least 5/7 games and possibly 6/7 games.


But really, nothing you have highlighted is clearly or totally a lie, those are all sensible assumptions. That they could be wrong is not evidence of lying.


It's a lie if he knows it's not true and says it, he has no business not knowing that it was untrue and stating it as rigid fact, but I don't believe he didn't know.
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...bloody-mindedness? - 16/08/2012 01:29:40 AM 1545 Views
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Ranagrande got the serial killer on Day 1 last game, that kill is all his - 16/08/2012 05:06:13 AM 1568 Views
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RBIRL again. Sorry. - 16/08/2012 06:06:52 PM 1468 Views
What college does he go to? *NM* - 16/08/2012 06:14:36 PM 795 Views
Cornell *NM* - 19/08/2012 10:31:44 PM 841 Views
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What are we tracking as the current vote count anyway? - 19/08/2012 03:44:28 AM 1600 Views
Re: What are we tracking as the current vote count anyway? - 19/08/2012 11:17:48 AM 1461 Views
I unvoted from Yunalesca a while back. - 19/08/2012 05:09:30 PM 1588 Views
I can't believe you missed that in the first post. - 19/08/2012 11:45:42 AM 1549 Views
I usually ride in on an email link *NM* - 19/08/2012 04:00:25 PM 882 Views
eh, i'll vote where my mouth is. Vote: Fanatic-Templar *NM* - 19/08/2012 10:49:35 PM 846 Views
Well, I gues that's SOMETHING - 20/08/2012 10:51:36 AM 1613 Views
Then I'll join the vote against Beetnemesis. - 20/08/2012 05:00:16 PM 1553 Views
I think you should reconsider - 21/08/2012 05:18:30 AM 1560 Views
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By the way, that was well put - 21/08/2012 09:24:50 PM 1660 Views
Re: Well, I gues that's SOMETHING - 20/08/2012 05:21:21 PM 1615 Views
What was the argument against FT, again? - 20/08/2012 04:07:26 PM 1487 Views
I wanted to lynch Yunalesca for inactivity, and this was unkind. *NM* - 20/08/2012 05:01:18 PM 871 Views
That wasn't the case in its entire... - 20/08/2012 05:22:26 PM 1521 Views
Obviously you are a demon *NM* - 21/08/2012 05:14:12 AM 928 Views
That goes without saying. But we're supposed to lynch mafia, not demons. *NM* - 21/08/2012 06:25:31 AM 867 Views
I have returned! - 22/08/2012 01:35:32 AM 1432 Views
Roleclaim: Fantasio, (Spirou's best friend) - 22/08/2012 05:32:16 PM 1577 Views
Re: Roleclaim: Fantasio, (Spirou's best friend) - 22/08/2012 06:17:04 PM 1586 Views
You are a modern day Atticus Finch *NM* - 22/08/2012 08:21:28 PM 888 Views
So true *NM* - 22/08/2012 10:37:23 PM 876 Views
Unvote - 22/08/2012 11:16:02 PM 1575 Views
See, I've got a slight problem with that - 23/08/2012 07:52:11 AM 1603 Views
Hm I have no such sentence... - 23/08/2012 12:36:58 PM 1610 Views
I don't either but I can somewhat confirm that, also Beet lied, clearly and totally - 23/08/2012 05:18:41 PM 1605 Views
This is all true... *NM* - 23/08/2012 06:13:55 PM 931 Views
Good characters being good is far more reasonable than the opposite. - 24/08/2012 04:23:16 AM 1596 Views
6/7 or 5/7 games with named characters it was a horrible gauge - 24/08/2012 05:20:23 AM 1711 Views
I still say those previous games are irrelevant. Here's why: - 24/08/2012 05:32:55 AM 1599 Views
I can't agree here Dan - 24/08/2012 05:51:53 AM 1733 Views
(it's nothing personal) - 24/08/2012 03:29:00 PM 1564 Views
Quickly going over those you provided... - 24/08/2012 07:33:01 AM 1519 Views
my anime game - 25/08/2012 02:21:57 PM 1582 Views
What? - 23/08/2012 03:43:24 PM 1583 Views
And that's pretty unbelievable too - 23/08/2012 07:07:35 PM 1473 Views
This whole answer sounds to me... - 23/08/2012 07:17:34 PM 1449 Views
So, you think I am an evil version of Fantasio? *NM* - 24/08/2012 12:31:14 AM 905 Views
I have NEVER claimed "secret intel," and I haven't claimed a role, either - 24/08/2012 12:30:08 AM 1610 Views
How curious. - 23/08/2012 04:35:48 PM 1555 Views
Okay. - 23/08/2012 06:13:37 PM 1527 Views
Re: Okay. - 24/08/2012 04:23:18 AM 1545 Views
I'm as certain as I can be, given the circumstances. - 23/08/2012 07:14:33 PM 1569 Views
Vote: beetnemesis *NM* - 23/08/2012 08:10:38 PM 885 Views
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Because I character claimed as Fantasio, which means I am evil Fantasio - 24/08/2012 01:03:06 AM 1703 Views
Interesting way of putting it... - 24/08/2012 03:02:39 AM 1540 Views
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Probably post-hammer so... - 24/08/2012 05:58:04 AM 1846 Views
No problem with that. *NM* - 24/08/2012 01:02:56 PM 908 Views
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Any reasonable compact account - 24/08/2012 10:39:31 PM 1536 Views
...Well memory really isn't my thing... *NM* - 25/08/2012 03:51:10 AM 910 Views
My memory is awful, besides you write well - 25/08/2012 04:12:02 AM 1537 Views
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If it works *NM* - 25/08/2012 07:48:12 PM 892 Views
...It might. - 25/08/2012 09:27:59 PM 1662 Views
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What about your first game or your first Mod? - 27/08/2012 01:32:47 AM 1532 Views
I only remember the basis of my first game... - 27/08/2012 01:50:48 AM 1519 Views
That'll do Now who to guilt trip? *NM* - 27/08/2012 02:29:16 AM 847 Views
I totally remember that. Napoleon, right? You guys kept accidentally posting as one another. *NM* - 25/08/2012 12:31:05 AM 855 Views
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I do... That was annoying. *NM* - 25/08/2012 08:49:45 AM 816 Views
Sorry. *NM* - 25/08/2012 07:06:07 PM 890 Views
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