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My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. Artsapat Send a noteboard - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM
This is a recollection of all votes cast on Day 1. If there are any inaccuracies, please let me know.

01/10/2012 07:56:47 PM - Fanatic-Templar - Vote: Ranagrande
since he hasn't answered his questions yet.

Also was the first to notice that Taiga was the only non-human.
ranagrande: L-5 (Fanatic-Templar)

01/10/2012 08:53:10 PM - Taiga - Vote: Ranagrande
I agree with your opinion on Ranagrande as he indeed did not answer the questions

In answer to FT, so it could be to discharge the accusation of not being human.
ranagrande: L-4 (Fanatic-Templar, Taiga)

This was then followed by:
03/10/2012 05:28:28 PM - Stephen - Vote: Taiga
Just to stir up some action. Basically for the reason that he is the only non-human of the question respondants.

ranagrande: L-4 (Fanatic-Templar, Taiga)
Taiga: L-5 (Stephen)

04/10/2012 04:49:29 AM - Fanatic-Templar - Vote: Taiga
Sure, I'll go for this too.

ranagrande: L-5 (Taiga)
Taiga: L-4 (Stephen, Fanatic-Templar)

11/10/2012 10:37:08 PM - ? - Vote: ranagrande
I feel bad voting for Taiga because he's new And rana because he is RBIRL.(Right?)

ranagrande: L-4 (Taiga, ?)
Taiga: L-4 (Stephen, Fanatic-Templar)

Taiga pointed out that Yuna was the only non-Scooby
the only non-scooby we have among us is Yunalesca.


14/10/2012 04:50:09 PM - ? - Vota: Yunalesca
She said something about...bitca(?) to describe her character. Then took it back, saying it was a joke. She's the only non-scooby like Tyga said.

ranagrande: L-5 (Taiga)
Taiga: L-4 (Stephen, Fanatic-Templar)
Yunalesca: L-5 (?)

15/10/2012 02:47:40 PM - Artsapat - Vote: Fanatic-Templar
So instead of answering the question asked of him, he DID choose this question, this ONE question that would make Taiga stand out more.

ranagrande: L-5 (Taiga)
Taiga: L-4 (Stephen, Fanatic-Templar)
Yunalesca: L-5 (?)
Fanatic-Templar (Artsapat)

16/10/2012 12:29:14 AM - Taiga - Vote: Yunalesca
Yuna is the only known non-scooby

Taiga: L-4 (Stephen, Fanatic-Templar)
Yunalesca: L-4 (?, Taiga)
Fanatic-Templar: L-5 (Artsapat)


16/10/2012 08:48:03 PM - ranagrande - Vote: Taiga
If Taiga really is the only non-human character, he's probably scum.

Taiga: L-3 (Stephen, Fanatic-Templar, ranagrande)
Yunalesca: L-4 (?, Taiga)
Fanatic-Templar: L-5 (Artsapat)

18/10/2012 03:16:50 AM - Darth_Katie - Vote: ranagrande
I would rather take that risk on a person who's probably not going to contribute anyway (he said he'd be RBIRL indefinitely).

Taiga: L-3 (Stephen, Fanatic-Templar, ranagrande)
Yunalesca: L-4 (?, Taiga)
Fanatic-Templar: L-5 (Artsapat)
ranagrande: L-5 (Darth_Katie)

18/10/2012 08:59:25 AM - Fanatic-Templar - Vote: Yunalesca
As for being such an obvious blunder that Yuna would surely have lied if she were actually scum, eh, we've seen worse.

(i.e.: she's no Scooby)
Taiga: L-4 (Stephen, ranagrande)
Yunalesca: L-3 (?, Taiga, Fanatic-Templar)
Fanatic-Templar: L-5 (Artsapat)
ranagrande: L-5 (Darth_Katie)

18/10/2012 11:07:00 PM - ? - Vote: Taiga
This came after Taiga's philosophical treatise on "I'm good because I'm a scooby", which I will have to reread if I want to understand it.
Taiga: L-3 (Stephen, ranagrande, ?)
Yunalesca: L-4 (Taiga, Fanatic-Templar)
Fanatic-Templar: L-5 (Artsapat)
ranagrande: L-5 (Darth_Katie)

24/10/2012 02:45:00 AM - Darth_Katie mentioned she might vote for someone else if ranagrande gets modkilled.

24/10/2012 06:15:00 AM - Isaac
I'm leaning toward Rana myself I'm not seeing the case on Yuna or Taiga and it would have to be medium strong to get me to vote for a new player on Day 1


Urged by the deadline:
25/10/2012 09:32:34 PM - Artsapat - Vote: ranagrande
Out of the viable options, I'm going here:

Taiga: L-3 (Stephen, ranagrande, ?)
Yunalesca: L-4 (Taiga, Fanatic-Templar)
ranagrande: L-4 (Darth_Katie, Artsapat)

25/10/2012 09:40:47 PM - Bergioyn - Vote: ranagrande
He's one of the three options I have and since they are all about equal to me I vote rana because it's Taiga's first game and Yuna has been repeatedly lynched on day 1 lately.

Taiga: L-3 (Stephen, ranagrande, ?)
Yunalesca: L-4 (Taiga, Fanatic-Templar)
ranagrande: L-3 (Darth_Katie, Artsapat, Bergioyn)

25/10/2012 10:02:10 PM - Yunalesca - Vote: ranagrande
25/10/2012 10:58:03 PM - Taiga - Vote: ranagrande
Taiga: L-3 (Stephen, ranagrande, ?)
Yunalesca: L-5 (Fanatic-Templar)
ranagrande: L-1 (Darth_Katie, Artsapat, Bergioyn, Yunalesca, Taiga)

25/10/2012 11:36:01 PM - Stephen mentioned staying on Taiga
I don't think he should get a newbie bye. Also, rana's claim fits with his earlier posts so I think he's trustworthy.

with ? following suit (26/10/2012 02:26:55 AM)

26/10/2012 12:41:15 AM - Fanatic-Templar - Vote: ranagrande
Still a waste of a lynch, but at least it beats keeping him alive.

This was the hammer.

26/10/2012 07:19:49 AM - Isaac - Vote: ranagrande
In case we need one, I don't know what the count is, get it done, let's roll on

Taiga: L-3 (Stephen, ranagrande, ?)
ranagrande: L+1 (Darth_Katie, Artsapat, Bergioyn, Yunalesca, Taiga, Fanatic-Templar, Isaac)

And we bagged ourselves a scummer.

Some noteworthy things:
- The first person to go for ranagrande was FT. He was also the hammer on this vote.
- At a certain point in time there were no votes for ranagrande. The first to reopen the hunt for him was DK.
- Taiga may have bussed on the vote, if only to get him away from being lynched on Day 1. Then again: that's not a strategy I would guess from a beginning player in his first game.
- Isaac weighed in a little too late. May have been a scummer-strategy ("Hey, look at me, see me voting for this bad guy? It doesn't mean anything, but at least I voted" ), but I think it's more likely that he's RBIRL and wanted to at least participate and help keep the game going. (After all, we were pushing a deadline and at least two people mentioned they were not changing their vote).
- Everybody has cast a vote at some point. Last three to get in the game (DK, Bergioyn and Isaac) all voted for ranagrande.
- Stephen and ? have stood by their decision to vote for Taiga. The rest got to vote for ranagrande.

Based on this I would think that at least one of Stephen and ? is guilty. One guilty party may have bussed the vote, two seems unlikely.
I'm willing to give FT and DK a pass for now, as they initiated the vote on two separate occasions. One "but": FT may have tried to start with a vote for ranagrande, slip in a guilty insinuation to Taiga, step away as soon as it's getting dangerous for ranagrande. When he saw all was lost anyway, he hammered ranagrande and got rid of the dead weight.
Other option for scum who bussed the vote: Taiga.

The mystery deepens... I think. *MySmiley*
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Day 2: Superstar beetnemesis - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 1764 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED beetnemesis - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 857 Views
Nobody died? *NM* Bergioyn - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 568 Views
Nope *NM* beetnemesis - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 511 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. Fanatic-Templar - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 761 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* Taiga - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 484 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 519 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 590 Views
I concur. Darth_Katie - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 849 Views
Re: I concur. Yunalesca - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 851 Views
So what's the point? Darth_Katie - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 740 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. Artsapat - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 881 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. Fanatic-Templar - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 812 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that Artsapat - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 709 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 469 Views
I don't think that does work. Darth_Katie - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 913 Views
The Cairhien Game Isaac - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 752 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . Fanatic-Templar - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 676 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind Artsapat - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 733 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. Taiga - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 823 Views
Interesting results Isaac - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 731 Views
maybe a 4th option? Taiga - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 858 Views
No, I don't think so. Darth_Katie - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 1037 Views
It is, but not too likely Isaac - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 670 Views
What now? Taiga - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 794 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages Artsapat - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 807 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* Bergioyn - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 507 Views
You were targeted? Stephen - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 684 Views
Why is that anti-town? Artsapat - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 772 Views
Okay then. Stephen - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 681 Views
All kinds of RBIRL Isaac - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 785 Views
We understand Artsapat - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 847 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL Stephen - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 779 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] Artsapat - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 850 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* Artsapat - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 553 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] Fanatic-Templar - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 798 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* Darth_Katie - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 790 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* Stephen - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 564 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* Bergioyn - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 602 Views
? - not guilty *NM* Taiga - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 577 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* Yunalesca - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 566 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 539 Views
? - Guilty *NM* Isaac - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 533 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. Artsapat - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 940 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... Artsapat - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 878 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... Fanatic-Templar - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 759 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. Fanatic-Templar - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 797 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. Isaac - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 952 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. Fanatic-Templar - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 779 Views
I still haven't heard the case Isaac - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 796 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. Fanatic-Templar - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 778 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more Isaac - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 686 Views
Yuna's role Taiga - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 818 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. Bergioyn - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 727 Views
... Taiga - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 686 Views
*facepalm* Yunalesca - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 727 Views
... what? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 495 Views
What ... ? Darth_Katie - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 944 Views
Re: What ... ? Taiga - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 699 Views
Most important question! Stephen - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 721 Views
Indeed, I noticed that Artsapat - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 789 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* Taiga - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 480 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* Stephen - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 506 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* Taiga - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 538 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. Stephen - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 923 Views
I did...?? Taiga - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 695 Views
This one? ? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 714 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon Yunalesca - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 793 Views
really sorry *NM* Taiga - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 531 Views
you shouldn't necessarily claim because it's very plausible I misinterpreted the message *NM* Taiga - 07/11/2012 11:22:32 PM 465 Views
Well to me... Artsapat - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 713 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. Fanatic-Templar - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 786 Views
ok Yunalesca - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 806 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! ? - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 692 Views
No worries man. Stephen - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 712 Views
Nothing too bad... ? - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 700 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* ? - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 565 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* Bergioyn - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 447 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* ? - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 525 Views
RBIRL Artsapat - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 760 Views
So now what? *NM* ? - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 424 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? ? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 713 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, Bergioyn - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 822 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... ? - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 749 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them Isaac - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 789 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* ? - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 506 Views
Re: So now what? Artsapat - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 791 Views
I agree Taiga - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 831 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* ? - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 463 Views
Re: So now what? Stephen - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 738 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. Darth_Katie - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 963 Views
*cough cough* beetnemesis - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 707 Views
*NM* Bergioyn - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 348 Views
*NM* Taiga - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 540 Views
Well... Isaac - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 740 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* Stephen - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 570 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga Isaac - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 836 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 765 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga Isaac - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 781 Views
I should point out... Fanatic-Templar - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 681 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . Fanatic-Templar - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 822 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . Isaac - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 762 Views
RBIRL for a day or so Isaac - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 750 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* Isaac - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 528 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 522 Views
Someone else *NM* Isaac - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 540 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. Fanatic-Templar - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 733 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. Isaac - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 675 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. Bergioyn - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 815 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* Yunalesca - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 483 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan Isaac - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 705 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... ? - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 750 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. Fanatic-Templar - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 618 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. Stephen - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 745 Views
for myself Taiga - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 729 Views
Re: for myself Isaac - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 864 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan Artsapat - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 656 Views
time to make a choice Taiga - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 754 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? ? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 713 Views
I concur. Stephen - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 774 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. Stephen - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 761 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. Bergioyn - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 718 Views
again Taiga - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 746 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 674 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* ? - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 524 Views
what? why? *NM* Yunalesca - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 480 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* ? - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 547 Views
Re: again Yunalesca - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 793 Views
clarification Yunalesca - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 764 Views
Well, yeah... Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 665 Views
Umm...Idea. ? - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 794 Views
I've considered that... Fanatic-Templar - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 674 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* ? - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 511 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. Stephen - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 718 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* ? - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 564 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? Yunalesca - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 744 Views
The... ? - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 735 Views
Re: The... Yunalesca - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 703 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. Stephen - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 808 Views
True *NM* ? - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 554 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 670 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* Isaac - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 514 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 719 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? ? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 814 Views
RBIRL Yunalesca - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 789 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* beetnemesis - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 448 Views
Right... *NM* ? - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 499 Views
Left... *NM* Stephen - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 544 Views
Ah someone lives! ? - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 734 Views
Well, so do I? Artsapat - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 775 Views
I do live too.. Taiga - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 717 Views
Where did you vote? Artsapat - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 748 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* beetnemesis - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 530 Views
Unvote Fanatic-Templar - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 762 Views
But that'd make three scum... ? - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 731 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? Isaac - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1046 Views
Sure, why not. Fanatic-Templar - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 804 Views
Sure me too *NM* ? - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 546 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* Bergioyn - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 514 Views
I concur.. *NM* Taiga - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 498 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. Stephen - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 764 Views
Feeling better? *NM* ? - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 538 Views
I'm mostly recovered. Stephen - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 704 Views
That's a bold claim. Fanatic-Templar - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 669 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. Stephen - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 731 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen Isaac - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 841 Views
Vote: Stephen Fanatic-Templar - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 776 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. Stephen - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 796 Views
Ouch. Bergioyn - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 746 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* Bergioyn - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 546 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* Yunalesca - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 510 Views
Twilight beetnemesis - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 844 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* beetnemesis - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 501 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* Taiga - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 526 Views
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