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Re: for myself Isaac Send a noteboard - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM
I did vote for Ranagrande just to save my own ass, as has been suggested multiple times. As for the possibility that I bussed Rana: I seriously had to look up what 'bussing' meant, I had no clue. No, I didn't bus Rana :P I was just afraid that I was killed in the first night of my first game.


I utterly believe everything you said there, it would be true regardless of your alignment. The thing is 'bussing' for 'throw them under the bus' is something that comes intuitively to the cunning and is just the term for it, we did it before knowing the term. It's not a complex concept, my ally is probably going to die, I will make myself look more innocent by voting for him. FT and I did it to our ally and the Game Founder back in game 4, his first time as scum and my second, so I know it doesn't take a lot of experience to develop the concept, and IIRC the structure of the occasion didn't allow us to discuss it, we both enacted it without consultation, so no particular epiphany is required.

There is a bit of a learning curve, even though all the concepts of treachery we use are pretty much soaked in from normal life, but this one isn't too hard. But it probably does need a prod, had Ranagrande voted for you first and you were allies, that would be more than sufficient, but you voted for him about two weeks earlier so that theory is out. In fact that early vote would almost make you seem more innocent as a new player, except I don't find it too hard to believe a newer player might decide to vote for an ally early in the game, we had that happen back in the day too.

I am inclined to believe you about not being in cahoots with him, but not for the reasons you list, which as mentioned I am sure are true. Rather it's just that my theory revolves around Rana taking action because he was near death, and the problem is he could have gotten out of that lynch simply by posting a few times. I don't rule it out, and of course there's at least a 1 in 8 chance you're his ally anyway, but I feel the sum of possibilities makes the event essentially neutral, neither more nor less likely to be scum because of the accusation.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein

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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 2023 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 1137 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 696 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 681 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 1071 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 616 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 667 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 746 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1151 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 1101 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 1022 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1133 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 1084 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 1008 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 611 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1186 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 1006 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 918 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 974 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 1089 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 1001 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1146 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 1409 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 935 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 1035 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 1050 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 647 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 969 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 1008 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 932 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 1027 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 1105 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 1052 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 1129 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 701 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 1092 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 1038 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 738 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 754 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 737 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 722 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 684 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 699 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1212 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1148 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 1019 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 1072 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1219 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 1076 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 1039 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 997 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 926 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 1071 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 942 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 939 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 991 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 618 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1289 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 960 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 978 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 1034 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 606 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 719 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 753 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1221 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 928 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 916 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 1037 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 664 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 930 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 1046 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 1042 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 957 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 1000 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 921 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 694 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 658 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 703 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 1021 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 565 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 1055 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 1078 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 959 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 1011 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 629 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 1044 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 1059 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 579 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 1017 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1290 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 928 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 480 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 669 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 976 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 751 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 1076 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 1017 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 1037 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 1000 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 1090 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 1045 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 972 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 684 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 649 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 688 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 967 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 919 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 1081 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 714 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 990 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 983 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 871 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 1038 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 956 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 1107 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 897 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 1004 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 958 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 1047 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 1013 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 955 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 1008 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 943 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 747 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 614 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 677 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 1049 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 1012 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 912 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 1033 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 914 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 657 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 993 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 693 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 1009 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 967 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 973 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 1057 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 707 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 915 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 640 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 965 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 1039 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 1051 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 584 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 635 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 704 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 964 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 1011 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 1003 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 989 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 664 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 1001 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 985 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1279 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 1019 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 666 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 668 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 650 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 1048 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 670 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 1019 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 920 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 1035 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 1098 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 1004 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 1096 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 1006 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 662 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 636 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 1095 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 644 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 696 Views

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