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Re: for myself Isaac Send a noteboard - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM
I did vote for Ranagrande just to save my own ass, as has been suggested multiple times. As for the possibility that I bussed Rana: I seriously had to look up what 'bussing' meant, I had no clue. No, I didn't bus Rana :P I was just afraid that I was killed in the first night of my first game.


I utterly believe everything you said there, it would be true regardless of your alignment. The thing is 'bussing' for 'throw them under the bus' is something that comes intuitively to the cunning and is just the term for it, we did it before knowing the term. It's not a complex concept, my ally is probably going to die, I will make myself look more innocent by voting for him. FT and I did it to our ally and the Game Founder back in game 4, his first time as scum and my second, so I know it doesn't take a lot of experience to develop the concept, and IIRC the structure of the occasion didn't allow us to discuss it, we both enacted it without consultation, so no particular epiphany is required.

There is a bit of a learning curve, even though all the concepts of treachery we use are pretty much soaked in from normal life, but this one isn't too hard. But it probably does need a prod, had Ranagrande voted for you first and you were allies, that would be more than sufficient, but you voted for him about two weeks earlier so that theory is out. In fact that early vote would almost make you seem more innocent as a new player, except I don't find it too hard to believe a newer player might decide to vote for an ally early in the game, we had that happen back in the day too.

I am inclined to believe you about not being in cahoots with him, but not for the reasons you list, which as mentioned I am sure are true. Rather it's just that my theory revolves around Rana taking action because he was near death, and the problem is he could have gotten out of that lynch simply by posting a few times. I don't rule it out, and of course there's at least a 1 in 8 chance you're his ally anyway, but I feel the sum of possibilities makes the event essentially neutral, neither more nor less likely to be scum because of the accusation.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein

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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 2322 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 1424 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 831 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 824 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 1363 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 760 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 821 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 888 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1441 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 1414 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 1379 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1439 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 1395 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 1272 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 820 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1515 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 1314 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 1180 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 1253 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 1413 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 1317 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1443 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 1802 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 1252 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 1306 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 1315 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 790 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 1276 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 1335 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 1230 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 1332 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 1390 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 1342 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 1404 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 840 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 1360 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 1278 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 878 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 901 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 880 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 869 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 824 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 831 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1520 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1459 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 1317 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 1381 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1507 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 1358 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 1335 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 1282 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 1202 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 1339 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 1268 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 1201 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 1248 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 749 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1642 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 1218 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 1253 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 1307 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 751 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 867 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 947 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1479 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 1180 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 1187 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 1297 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 806 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 1240 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 1336 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 1343 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 1239 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 1304 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 1216 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 826 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 852 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 859 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 1287 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 708 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 1394 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 1358 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 1207 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 1303 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 772 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 1310 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 1325 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 710 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 1312 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1640 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 1186 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 611 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 802 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 1247 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 889 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 1371 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 1284 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 1334 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 1337 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 1369 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 1331 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 1233 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 817 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 787 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 840 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 1281 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 1225 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 1364 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 913 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 1262 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 1290 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 1150 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 1324 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 1192 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 1396 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 1162 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 1256 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 1234 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 1324 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 1294 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 1244 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 1257 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 1202 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 950 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 754 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 813 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 1342 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 1274 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 1186 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 1283 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 1192 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 798 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 1317 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 843 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 1285 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 1248 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 1277 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 1366 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 846 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 1170 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 788 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 1257 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 1301 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 1302 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 721 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 774 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 845 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 1249 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 1292 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 1262 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 1270 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 796 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 1312 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 1275 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1535 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 1264 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 803 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 807 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 790 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 1307 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 797 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 1433 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 1213 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 1415 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 1408 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 1270 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 1447 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 1274 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 800 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 781 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 1385 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 788 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 838 Views

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