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Re: for myself Isaac Send a noteboard - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM
I did vote for Ranagrande just to save my own ass, as has been suggested multiple times. As for the possibility that I bussed Rana: I seriously had to look up what 'bussing' meant, I had no clue. No, I didn't bus Rana :P I was just afraid that I was killed in the first night of my first game.


I utterly believe everything you said there, it would be true regardless of your alignment. The thing is 'bussing' for 'throw them under the bus' is something that comes intuitively to the cunning and is just the term for it, we did it before knowing the term. It's not a complex concept, my ally is probably going to die, I will make myself look more innocent by voting for him. FT and I did it to our ally and the Game Founder back in game 4, his first time as scum and my second, so I know it doesn't take a lot of experience to develop the concept, and IIRC the structure of the occasion didn't allow us to discuss it, we both enacted it without consultation, so no particular epiphany is required.

There is a bit of a learning curve, even though all the concepts of treachery we use are pretty much soaked in from normal life, but this one isn't too hard. But it probably does need a prod, had Ranagrande voted for you first and you were allies, that would be more than sufficient, but you voted for him about two weeks earlier so that theory is out. In fact that early vote would almost make you seem more innocent as a new player, except I don't find it too hard to believe a newer player might decide to vote for an ally early in the game, we had that happen back in the day too.

I am inclined to believe you about not being in cahoots with him, but not for the reasons you list, which as mentioned I am sure are true. Rather it's just that my theory revolves around Rana taking action because he was near death, and the problem is he could have gotten out of that lynch simply by posting a few times. I don't rule it out, and of course there's at least a 1 in 8 chance you're his ally anyway, but I feel the sum of possibilities makes the event essentially neutral, neither more nor less likely to be scum because of the accusation.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein

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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 1849 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 952 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 617 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 565 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 869 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 530 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 576 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 650 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 956 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 929 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 842 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 972 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 892 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 802 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 522 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1006 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 825 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 759 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 807 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 915 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 819 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 963 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 1183 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 746 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 877 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 885 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 560 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 778 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 844 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 771 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 860 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 925 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 867 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 943 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 612 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 885 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 899 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 644 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 655 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 641 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 619 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 596 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 590 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1008 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 973 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 822 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 873 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1033 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 864 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 868 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 842 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 758 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 885 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 788 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 755 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 802 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 539 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1073 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 775 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 814 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 862 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 518 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 592 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 571 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1016 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 761 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 770 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 874 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 575 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 778 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 863 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 876 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 772 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 814 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 764 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 608 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 485 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 575 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 842 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 466 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 789 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 899 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 812 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 859 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 551 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 865 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 901 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 503 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 830 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1087 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 782 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 391 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 581 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 810 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 658 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 909 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 844 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 858 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 736 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 909 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 847 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 812 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 574 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 566 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 581 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 805 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 747 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 888 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 536 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 788 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 816 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 692 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 845 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 805 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 937 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 729 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 823 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 802 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 866 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 850 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 797 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 826 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 744 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 566 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 531 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 600 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 863 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 839 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 743 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 872 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 743 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 561 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 811 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 610 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 822 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 814 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 785 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 895 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 599 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 737 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 562 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 795 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 881 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 867 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 499 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 542 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 621 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 799 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 853 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 800 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 833 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 581 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 836 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 801 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1123 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 875 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 587 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 551 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 548 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 865 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 587 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 813 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 739 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 838 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 914 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 840 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 898 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 818 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 592 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 554 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 925 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 554 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 574 Views

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