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So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga Isaac Send a noteboard - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM
Thanks Artsapat for compiling the vote table:

Rana: Darth_Katie, Artsapat, Bergioyn, Yunalesca, Taiga, Fanatic-Templar, Isaac

Now we can dismiss DK, Artsapat, and Bergioyn of being scum I think because it's pretty weird to bus that early on a case that amounted to 'Isn't here', no reason to bus that.

Yuna and Taiga we can't because they were also accused and bussing an ally that's absolutely absent in favor of not dying is common sense.

FT and I are still on the hook, neither of us would hesitate to hammer an ally who was absent and my defense that I don't like to bus people only applies if I have time to defend them meaningfully, I didn't so realistically I could see myself performing triage that way.

Still a vote for is always a bit less suspicious then a vote for someone else or a non-vote and ? and Stephen did vote for other people.

In this case though I just think I'm going off what I know of Rana. He's been my ally on the dark side a lot of times and I know how he thinks, if he had been trying to build a BS frame case he'd have picked the non-scooby non-new-player - Yuna, not the non-human new player, Taiga.

He didn't, and that's weird, because that's the better case to fry as FT has rmeinded me and I find myself a bit surprised I didn't turn guns on Lucy for that, and I absolutely would have if I'd been a scummer and been paying attention. In fact I can't see missing that at all if I'd been scum. Nobody likes killing brand new players on Day 1, and non-human just isn't a case.

My guess, Rana figured he was going to die and voted for his ally so that when he died scum, as modkill or lynchee, Taiga would look more innocent. It fits him, he using bussing freely. If Taiga died he'd be clean for the rest of the game and if he died Taiga would be. It's not ironclad but I can't see Rana going for that lynch as a scapegoat and we know he'd be looking for one, not for a guilty party, since he was scum. He'd want someone he could fry easiest and non-human isn't enough to lynch off of even on day 1, not for a brand new player. Not with better targets.

So I think it's Taiga, but I'm not voting yet because I still haven't digested most of the posts in the game yet and might be missing something important. Thoughts?
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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 1885 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 988 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 638 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 587 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 915 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 550 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 597 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 671 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1010 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 969 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 890 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1015 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 940 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 848 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 544 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1050 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 866 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 795 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 848 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 948 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 865 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1001 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 1257 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 782 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 915 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 927 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 580 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 815 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 882 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 815 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 898 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 962 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 916 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 984 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 635 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 919 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 946 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 665 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 676 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 664 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 644 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 617 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 627 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1048 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1018 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 881 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 908 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1078 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 900 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 903 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 877 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 793 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 921 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 823 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 789 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 843 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 558 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1134 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 815 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 849 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 899 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 540 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 627 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 592 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1054 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 798 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 805 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 910 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 595 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 814 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 902 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 911 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 808 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 868 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 800 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 632 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 506 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 598 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 882 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 487 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 820 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 940 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 853 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 890 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 572 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 902 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 939 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 522 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 883 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1140 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 816 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 413 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 599 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 845 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 679 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 944 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 883 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 897 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 778 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 949 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 888 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 847 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 591 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 587 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 600 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 843 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 780 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 926 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 558 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 829 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 851 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 735 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 904 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 839 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 974 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 767 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 863 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 844 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 912 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 884 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 832 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 863 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 781 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 585 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 552 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 618 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 898 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 873 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 777 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 908 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 785 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 584 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 861 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 627 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 868 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 853 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 817 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 935 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 620 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 777 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 578 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 833 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 919 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 900 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 519 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 562 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 643 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 830 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 885 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 839 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 864 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 598 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 872 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 838 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1160 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 907 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 607 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 573 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 569 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 915 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 606 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 870 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 782 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 896 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 958 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 879 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 953 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 853 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 608 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 574 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 973 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 575 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 596 Views

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