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So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga Isaac Send a noteboard - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM
Thanks Artsapat for compiling the vote table:

Rana: Darth_Katie, Artsapat, Bergioyn, Yunalesca, Taiga, Fanatic-Templar, Isaac

Now we can dismiss DK, Artsapat, and Bergioyn of being scum I think because it's pretty weird to bus that early on a case that amounted to 'Isn't here', no reason to bus that.

Yuna and Taiga we can't because they were also accused and bussing an ally that's absolutely absent in favor of not dying is common sense.

FT and I are still on the hook, neither of us would hesitate to hammer an ally who was absent and my defense that I don't like to bus people only applies if I have time to defend them meaningfully, I didn't so realistically I could see myself performing triage that way.

Still a vote for is always a bit less suspicious then a vote for someone else or a non-vote and ? and Stephen did vote for other people.

In this case though I just think I'm going off what I know of Rana. He's been my ally on the dark side a lot of times and I know how he thinks, if he had been trying to build a BS frame case he'd have picked the non-scooby non-new-player - Yuna, not the non-human new player, Taiga.

He didn't, and that's weird, because that's the better case to fry as FT has rmeinded me and I find myself a bit surprised I didn't turn guns on Lucy for that, and I absolutely would have if I'd been a scummer and been paying attention. In fact I can't see missing that at all if I'd been scum. Nobody likes killing brand new players on Day 1, and non-human just isn't a case.

My guess, Rana figured he was going to die and voted for his ally so that when he died scum, as modkill or lynchee, Taiga would look more innocent. It fits him, he using bussing freely. If Taiga died he'd be clean for the rest of the game and if he died Taiga would be. It's not ironclad but I can't see Rana going for that lynch as a scapegoat and we know he'd be looking for one, not for a guilty party, since he was scum. He'd want someone he could fry easiest and non-human isn't enough to lynch off of even on day 1, not for a brand new player. Not with better targets.

So I think it's Taiga, but I'm not voting yet because I still haven't digested most of the posts in the game yet and might be missing something important. Thoughts?
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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 2049 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 1160 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 710 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 697 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 1113 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 630 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 679 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 758 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1178 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 1126 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 1059 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1163 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 1115 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 1032 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 623 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1208 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 1033 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 945 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 997 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 1125 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 1032 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1166 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 1431 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 970 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 1061 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 1075 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 656 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 998 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 1034 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 958 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 1057 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 1147 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 1086 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 1149 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 717 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 1124 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 1053 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 748 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 764 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 751 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 733 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 698 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 715 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1244 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1185 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 1042 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 1096 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1244 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 1108 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 1066 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 1021 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 949 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 1098 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 972 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 955 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 1013 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 633 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1320 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 988 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 1003 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 1055 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 617 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 733 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 817 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1244 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 945 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 937 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 1066 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 680 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 961 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 1063 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 1061 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 988 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 1028 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 944 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 708 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 723 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 730 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 1046 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 581 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 1131 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 1100 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 975 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 1038 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 641 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 1067 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 1078 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 589 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 1044 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1317 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 945 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 488 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 682 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 999 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 763 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 1103 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 1046 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 1070 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 1085 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 1123 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 1073 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 998 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 695 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 663 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 703 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 999 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 948 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 1112 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 778 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 1017 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 1010 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 898 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 1067 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 976 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 1137 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 919 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 1023 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 982 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 1073 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 1033 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 977 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 1030 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 966 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 811 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 630 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 693 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 1071 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 1032 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 942 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 1053 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 939 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 667 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 1023 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 708 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 1033 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 994 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 1004 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 1082 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 721 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 934 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 653 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 993 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 1062 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 1073 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 597 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 646 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 718 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 991 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 1041 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 1038 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 1018 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 676 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 1025 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 1015 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1308 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 1045 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 676 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 677 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 665 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 1069 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 681 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 1049 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 944 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 1063 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 1141 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 1032 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 1120 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 1032 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 673 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 648 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 1119 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 655 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 710 Views

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