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So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga Isaac Send a noteboard - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM
Thanks Artsapat for compiling the vote table:

Rana: Darth_Katie, Artsapat, Bergioyn, Yunalesca, Taiga, Fanatic-Templar, Isaac

Now we can dismiss DK, Artsapat, and Bergioyn of being scum I think because it's pretty weird to bus that early on a case that amounted to 'Isn't here', no reason to bus that.

Yuna and Taiga we can't because they were also accused and bussing an ally that's absolutely absent in favor of not dying is common sense.

FT and I are still on the hook, neither of us would hesitate to hammer an ally who was absent and my defense that I don't like to bus people only applies if I have time to defend them meaningfully, I didn't so realistically I could see myself performing triage that way.

Still a vote for is always a bit less suspicious then a vote for someone else or a non-vote and ? and Stephen did vote for other people.

In this case though I just think I'm going off what I know of Rana. He's been my ally on the dark side a lot of times and I know how he thinks, if he had been trying to build a BS frame case he'd have picked the non-scooby non-new-player - Yuna, not the non-human new player, Taiga.

He didn't, and that's weird, because that's the better case to fry as FT has rmeinded me and I find myself a bit surprised I didn't turn guns on Lucy for that, and I absolutely would have if I'd been a scummer and been paying attention. In fact I can't see missing that at all if I'd been scum. Nobody likes killing brand new players on Day 1, and non-human just isn't a case.

My guess, Rana figured he was going to die and voted for his ally so that when he died scum, as modkill or lynchee, Taiga would look more innocent. It fits him, he using bussing freely. If Taiga died he'd be clean for the rest of the game and if he died Taiga would be. It's not ironclad but I can't see Rana going for that lynch as a scapegoat and we know he'd be looking for one, not for a guilty party, since he was scum. He'd want someone he could fry easiest and non-human isn't enough to lynch off of even on day 1, not for a brand new player. Not with better targets.

So I think it's Taiga, but I'm not voting yet because I still haven't digested most of the posts in the game yet and might be missing something important. Thoughts?
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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 1919 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 1026 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 655 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 606 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 950 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 567 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 612 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 692 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1050 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 1002 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 933 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1049 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 974 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 879 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 562 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1092 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 907 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 828 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 882 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 986 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 895 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1042 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 1301 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 816 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 948 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 959 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 601 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 858 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 915 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 853 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 930 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 1002 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 955 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 1026 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 651 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 965 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 984 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 685 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 696 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 684 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 677 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 633 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 647 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1081 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1053 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 916 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 943 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1108 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 944 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 936 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 906 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 833 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 954 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 850 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 823 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 882 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 575 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1174 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 848 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 885 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 935 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 556 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 652 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 611 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1092 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 830 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 831 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 939 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 614 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 842 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 936 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 941 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 849 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 901 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 832 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 648 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 518 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 613 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 917 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 499 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 851 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 974 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 886 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 918 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 586 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 937 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 965 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 536 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 917 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1171 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 845 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 431 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 612 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 871 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 696 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 975 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 918 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 932 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 811 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 982 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 917 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 879 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 607 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 607 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 615 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 871 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 812 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 960 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 574 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 859 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 881 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 778 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 931 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 866 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 1003 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 795 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 895 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 869 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 945 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 914 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 857 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 893 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 817 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 603 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 566 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 633 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 931 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 905 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 813 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 941 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 815 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 603 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 898 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 641 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 894 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 880 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 852 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 965 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 636 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 806 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 593 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 863 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 947 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 932 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 534 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 579 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 656 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 860 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 928 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 878 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 894 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 614 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 907 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 868 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1189 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 936 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 621 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 594 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 589 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 954 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 621 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 909 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 814 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 934 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 991 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 909 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 995 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 888 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 621 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 588 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 999 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 593 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 614 Views

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