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So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga Isaac Send a noteboard - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM
Thanks Artsapat for compiling the vote table:

Rana: Darth_Katie, Artsapat, Bergioyn, Yunalesca, Taiga, Fanatic-Templar, Isaac

Now we can dismiss DK, Artsapat, and Bergioyn of being scum I think because it's pretty weird to bus that early on a case that amounted to 'Isn't here', no reason to bus that.

Yuna and Taiga we can't because they were also accused and bussing an ally that's absolutely absent in favor of not dying is common sense.

FT and I are still on the hook, neither of us would hesitate to hammer an ally who was absent and my defense that I don't like to bus people only applies if I have time to defend them meaningfully, I didn't so realistically I could see myself performing triage that way.

Still a vote for is always a bit less suspicious then a vote for someone else or a non-vote and ? and Stephen did vote for other people.

In this case though I just think I'm going off what I know of Rana. He's been my ally on the dark side a lot of times and I know how he thinks, if he had been trying to build a BS frame case he'd have picked the non-scooby non-new-player - Yuna, not the non-human new player, Taiga.

He didn't, and that's weird, because that's the better case to fry as FT has rmeinded me and I find myself a bit surprised I didn't turn guns on Lucy for that, and I absolutely would have if I'd been a scummer and been paying attention. In fact I can't see missing that at all if I'd been scum. Nobody likes killing brand new players on Day 1, and non-human just isn't a case.

My guess, Rana figured he was going to die and voted for his ally so that when he died scum, as modkill or lynchee, Taiga would look more innocent. It fits him, he using bussing freely. If Taiga died he'd be clean for the rest of the game and if he died Taiga would be. It's not ironclad but I can't see Rana going for that lynch as a scapegoat and we know he'd be looking for one, not for a guilty party, since he was scum. He'd want someone he could fry easiest and non-human isn't enough to lynch off of even on day 1, not for a brand new player. Not with better targets.

So I think it's Taiga, but I'm not voting yet because I still haven't digested most of the posts in the game yet and might be missing something important. Thoughts?
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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 2351 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 1455 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 852 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 844 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 1392 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 783 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 840 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 913 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1467 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 1441 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 1404 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1477 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 1420 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 1306 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 841 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1563 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 1349 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 1214 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 1286 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 1441 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 1345 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1476 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 1836 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 1275 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 1332 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 1337 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 806 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 1306 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 1359 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 1254 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 1372 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 1422 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 1369 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 1451 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 864 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 1381 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 1302 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 896 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 916 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 900 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 889 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 850 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 858 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1547 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1490 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 1348 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 1412 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1531 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 1396 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 1373 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 1306 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 1236 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 1370 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 1295 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 1242 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 1275 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 770 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1673 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 1242 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 1290 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 1336 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 766 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 881 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 963 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1508 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 1209 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 1217 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 1324 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 824 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 1264 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 1363 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 1374 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 1264 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 1329 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 1239 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 845 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 869 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 870 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 1321 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 725 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 1429 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 1390 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 1231 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 1332 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 790 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 1345 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 1356 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 728 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 1331 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1663 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 1213 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 629 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 814 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 1270 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 907 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 1412 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 1314 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 1368 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 1369 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 1390 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 1350 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 1274 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 832 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 799 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 861 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 1317 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 1271 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 1389 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 937 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 1297 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 1325 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 1175 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 1344 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 1215 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 1427 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 1191 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 1281 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 1262 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 1342 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 1329 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 1276 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 1280 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 1233 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 969 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 770 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 823 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 1375 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 1307 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 1216 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 1307 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 1222 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 813 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 1350 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 860 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 1320 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 1287 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 1304 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 1406 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 864 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 1207 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 802 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 1288 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 1336 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 1326 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 742 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 787 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 860 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 1282 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 1317 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 1288 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 1289 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 810 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 1339 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 1302 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1562 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 1289 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 816 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 824 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 804 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 1323 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 817 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 1465 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 1241 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 1443 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 1445 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 1308 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 1475 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 1304 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 812 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 796 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 1412 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 794 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 856 Views

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