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So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga Isaac Send a noteboard - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM
Thanks Artsapat for compiling the vote table:

Rana: Darth_Katie, Artsapat, Bergioyn, Yunalesca, Taiga, Fanatic-Templar, Isaac

Now we can dismiss DK, Artsapat, and Bergioyn of being scum I think because it's pretty weird to bus that early on a case that amounted to 'Isn't here', no reason to bus that.

Yuna and Taiga we can't because they were also accused and bussing an ally that's absolutely absent in favor of not dying is common sense.

FT and I are still on the hook, neither of us would hesitate to hammer an ally who was absent and my defense that I don't like to bus people only applies if I have time to defend them meaningfully, I didn't so realistically I could see myself performing triage that way.

Still a vote for is always a bit less suspicious then a vote for someone else or a non-vote and ? and Stephen did vote for other people.

In this case though I just think I'm going off what I know of Rana. He's been my ally on the dark side a lot of times and I know how he thinks, if he had been trying to build a BS frame case he'd have picked the non-scooby non-new-player - Yuna, not the non-human new player, Taiga.

He didn't, and that's weird, because that's the better case to fry as FT has rmeinded me and I find myself a bit surprised I didn't turn guns on Lucy for that, and I absolutely would have if I'd been a scummer and been paying attention. In fact I can't see missing that at all if I'd been scum. Nobody likes killing brand new players on Day 1, and non-human just isn't a case.

My guess, Rana figured he was going to die and voted for his ally so that when he died scum, as modkill or lynchee, Taiga would look more innocent. It fits him, he using bussing freely. If Taiga died he'd be clean for the rest of the game and if he died Taiga would be. It's not ironclad but I can't see Rana going for that lynch as a scapegoat and we know he'd be looking for one, not for a guilty party, since he was scum. He'd want someone he could fry easiest and non-human isn't enough to lynch off of even on day 1, not for a brand new player. Not with better targets.

So I think it's Taiga, but I'm not voting yet because I still haven't digested most of the posts in the game yet and might be missing something important. Thoughts?
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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 2542 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 1629 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 945 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 932 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 1572 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 889 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 943 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 1003 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1637 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 1628 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 1582 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1647 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 1613 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 1483 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 934 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1772 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 1538 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 1386 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 1466 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 1616 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 1543 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1675 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 2055 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 1466 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 1505 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 1490 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 897 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 1479 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 1535 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 1431 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 1535 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 1577 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 1565 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 1651 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 968 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 1552 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 1463 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 1004 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 1015 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 992 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 985 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 949 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 948 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1748 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1663 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 1535 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 1584 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1705 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 1574 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 1555 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 1480 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 1438 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 1548 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 1468 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 1417 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 1445 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 855 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1878 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 1417 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 1471 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 1526 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 865 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 973 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 1085 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1675 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 1362 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 1381 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 1500 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 917 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 1455 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 1533 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 1552 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 1429 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 1520 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 1419 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 937 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 975 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 963 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 1510 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 820 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 1584 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 1565 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 1417 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 1499 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 885 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 1512 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 1534 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 823 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 1484 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1870 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 1382 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 724 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 907 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 1414 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 1028 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 1569 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 1476 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 1542 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 1536 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 1557 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 1518 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 1455 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 927 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 903 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 980 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 1473 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 1425 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 1559 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 1033 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 1485 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 1487 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 1355 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 1535 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 1368 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 1584 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 1363 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 1451 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 1430 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 1506 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 1519 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 1457 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 1445 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 1416 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 1065 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 869 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 904 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 1552 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 1493 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 1384 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 1461 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 1396 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 907 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 1527 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 959 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 1476 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 1615 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 1471 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 1574 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 962 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 1360 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 897 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 1443 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 1502 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 1492 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 833 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 884 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 950 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 1445 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 1492 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 1450 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 1451 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 899 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 1503 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 1503 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1721 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 1445 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 902 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 913 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 901 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 1498 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 899 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 1636 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 1401 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 1606 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 1616 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 1475 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 1661 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 1454 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 897 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 884 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 1588 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 898 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 978 Views

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