Does know one else find it odd that we have exactly as much evidence as we normally do on day 2, which is to say the day 1 voting record, and so many people seem to think we should 'no lynch'?
What info do we not have today that we normally have on day 2? Nothing, we're in very good circumstances right now, down one townie, probably two if Blaine get's modkilled, on day 2, same as normal. Why squander this by forfeiting another townie to DF NK? For what, another round of hypocop that will put our cop in more danger? By now the DFs, minus Blaine and Hopper, minus themselves, minus anyone who gave a non-true response (and they know those) probably have it narrowed down to half the players, they might well get the cop tonight. We haven't, thus far, actually done anything. We should be picking one of those Hopper voters to accuse, do the normal routine and decide whether or not to lynch.
Where are the questions? We know that the vast majority of the time a townie get's lynched on day 1 the DFs played a major role, usually all or nearly all vote for that player. Why is this being ignored?
Did anyone vote without giving a reason? Highly suspicious, asks questions.
Did anyone seem to vote on the heels of someone else? Was their a dash of voting right after someone gave a reason that seemed kinda insufficient? Very suspicious, ask questions.
We know how this usually happens, someone gets targeted, usually by a townie or two, and the DFs bandwagon. Why should this time have been different? The DFs couldn't coordinate a response, they hadn't talked yet, that's why this day 1 vote record so often yields fruit, on day 1 the DFs do not have a strategy except eliminate anyone they can to slim down the town and keep one of them from being the lynchee. One of those DFs would have votted for Hopper, and when they did many of the other DFs would have just gone along with it.
I will not vote for a no lynch, nor for Blaine - wasted vote that - until we have at least tried to push some sort of investigation, and I really wonder right now where the impetus keeps coming from implying that somehow we know nothing and this is a day 1 repeat, this is exactly the same as our normal day 2, how is it different?
What info do we not have today that we normally have on day 2? Nothing, we're in very good circumstances right now, down one townie, probably two if Blaine get's modkilled, on day 2, same as normal. Why squander this by forfeiting another townie to DF NK? For what, another round of hypocop that will put our cop in more danger? By now the DFs, minus Blaine and Hopper, minus themselves, minus anyone who gave a non-true response (and they know those) probably have it narrowed down to half the players, they might well get the cop tonight. We haven't, thus far, actually done anything. We should be picking one of those Hopper voters to accuse, do the normal routine and decide whether or not to lynch.
Where are the questions? We know that the vast majority of the time a townie get's lynched on day 1 the DFs played a major role, usually all or nearly all vote for that player. Why is this being ignored?
Did anyone vote without giving a reason? Highly suspicious, asks questions.
Did anyone seem to vote on the heels of someone else? Was their a dash of voting right after someone gave a reason that seemed kinda insufficient? Very suspicious, ask questions.
We know how this usually happens, someone gets targeted, usually by a townie or two, and the DFs bandwagon. Why should this time have been different? The DFs couldn't coordinate a response, they hadn't talked yet, that's why this day 1 vote record so often yields fruit, on day 1 the DFs do not have a strategy except eliminate anyone they can to slim down the town and keep one of them from being the lynchee. One of those DFs would have votted for Hopper, and when they did many of the other DFs would have just gone along with it.
I will not vote for a no lynch, nor for Blaine - wasted vote that - until we have at least tried to push some sort of investigation, and I really wonder right now where the impetus keeps coming from implying that somehow we know nothing and this is a day 1 repeat, this is exactly the same as our normal day 2, how is it different?
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
Rafia in Space - Day 2 - Well....
07/11/2009 06:26:13 PM
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Interesting turn of events.
07/11/2009 11:23:05 PM
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It would matter which it was...
08/11/2009 03:07:02 AM
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First: Well done, doc/roleblocker. Second: Think we have a cult?
08/11/2009 07:57:48 AM
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Should we decide on who to hypocop?
08/11/2009 08:04:24 AM
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I think randomly is the way to go today.
08/11/2009 04:16:30 PM
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Re: I think randomly is the way to go today.
08/11/2009 04:36:53 PM
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Well, yeah, that's the small risk of hypocopping- and why everyone should try to be random
08/11/2009 09:11:59 PM
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Yes, I thought it over and realized that without hypocopping we don't find the Mafia either. *NM*
09/11/2009 06:52:14 AM
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Can we do two hypocops?
09/11/2009 05:23:15 AM
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I think there's probably about an equal chance of there being a roleblocker or a doc.
09/11/2009 01:34:02 PM
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What if we have both?
09/11/2009 04:29:34 PM
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Right, let's get this started- Hypocop Thread
09/11/2009 03:26:21 PM
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I investigated Isaac, and found him to be a devourer of children and kicker of puppies. *NM*
09/11/2009 09:30:24 PM
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But is he innocent or guilty?
*NM*
09/11/2009 09:31:40 PM
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It should be intuitively obvious to even a casual observer
. *NM*
09/11/2009 11:19:32 PM
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Hypocop Table - Day 2, Complete
09/11/2009 06:26:22 PM
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I investigated Darth katie and found her to be for the shadow *NM*
09/11/2009 10:40:11 PM
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i investigated fox and ravens and foud him innocent *NM*
10/11/2009 09:34:48 AM
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* found
10/11/2009 02:16:49 PM
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Good coffee isn't made of mud.
10/11/2009 02:39:37 PM
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Re: Good coffee isn't made of mud.
10/11/2009 07:45:06 PM
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Mmm I love the smell of coffee.
10/11/2009 10:19:19 PM
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I did what ever you do and Napolean is for the dark side of the force... *NM*
10/11/2009 01:08:10 AM
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Napole<b>o</b>n. I'm saving your life here.
*NM*
10/11/2009 08:10:08 AM
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Stop!
10/11/2009 10:12:26 AM
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Re: Stop!
10/11/2009 10:21:46 AM
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So you're saying that
10/11/2009 02:05:39 PM
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Forget about it
10/11/2009 05:12:31 PM
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Got new password, all is well
10/11/2009 05:13:37 PM
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So, what next?
11/11/2009 07:06:37 AM
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Has anyone gained any revelations from last night?
11/11/2009 06:15:33 PM
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Re: Has anyone gained any revelations from last night?
11/11/2009 09:00:53 PM
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Well, that doesn't really help.
11/11/2009 09:31:20 PM
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And with no dead people...
11/11/2009 10:26:29 PM
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I'm definitely not convinced this makes Isaac innocent.
11/11/2009 11:36:06 PM
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Well... this is essentially a Day 1 reboot. I suppose we could just do another random lynch
12/11/2009 03:44:22 AM
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I guess.
12/11/2009 06:04:22 AM
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Hm... ok, let's take a look at posting habits
12/11/2009 06:58:10 AM
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I wasn't asking the roleblocker to claim. I just voiced the possibility. *NM*
13/11/2009 05:30:45 AM
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Questions about the hypocop
12/11/2009 10:17:35 PM
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I see nothing wrong.
12/11/2009 11:34:10 PM
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It probably should have been more random.
13/11/2009 12:05:11 AM
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Re: It probably should have been more random.
13/11/2009 12:39:52 AM
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Okay.
13/11/2009 02:10:21 AM
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To me it seems that from that Darth Katie and Issac are innocent...
13/11/2009 12:14:02 AM
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Ok, I really think we should stop this before we do any more damage then has already been done...
13/11/2009 12:25:39 AM
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I usually have to strangle the Day 1 No-lynch option, which makes me very visible
.
13/11/2009 04:32:28 AM
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Actually...
13/11/2009 09:38:54 AM
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The only reason I voted for him was cause Is aw his death as a win-win sutuation.
13/11/2009 06:13:03 PM
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It seems to me
13/11/2009 01:49:32 AM
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Well, I did notice that...
13/11/2009 04:37:43 AM
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While that's true...
13/11/2009 05:28:54 AM
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I meant no implication whatsoever. I was asked what I noticed, and I noticed that.
13/11/2009 06:55:18 AM
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We should choose hypocopped people in the future to prevent events like this. *NM*
13/11/2009 06:09:18 AM
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I think that would limit the cop too much.
13/11/2009 09:37:49 PM
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I think it worked well in your gaem. Where we chose two, and hypocopped one of those. *NM*
14/11/2009 08:17:37 AM
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Yeah, but there were two definite suspects then.
14/11/2009 03:17:30 PM
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Yes, I didin't mean now, but in the future, when we may have more leads/suspects. *NM*
14/11/2009 08:00:19 PM
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Re: Yes, I didin't mean now, but in the future, when we may have more leads/suspects.
14/11/2009 09:00:24 PM
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By the way...
13/11/2009 01:22:15 AM
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Hm... should we wait for Blaine to be modkilled? Or does it even matter?
13/11/2009 06:11:30 PM
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Re: Hm... should we wait for Blaine to be modkilled? Or does it even matter?
13/11/2009 06:22:05 PM
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Yeah, I doubt we're going to find out what he was before the day ends.
13/11/2009 07:19:48 PM
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Question
13/11/2009 08:11:43 PM
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I guess the no night-kill is what has people uncertain.
13/11/2009 09:08:09 PM
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I just don't like lynching people randomly.
13/11/2009 09:44:59 PM
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Well, we didn't discuss it because, in the end, it almost didn't matter
13/11/2009 10:27:29 PM
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Alright, let's look at those votes then
14/11/2009 10:56:08 AM
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Re: Alright, let's look at those votes then
14/11/2009 08:02:50 PM
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I'm getting antsy
15/11/2009 02:46:48 AM
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Why Ranagrande?
15/11/2009 03:01:00 AM
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Dunno. Gut feeling. Maybe because he killed me last game!
15/11/2009 08:03:09 AM
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I'm getting kind of antsy too.
15/11/2009 03:56:41 PM
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All right
15/11/2009 06:56:33 PM
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It's up now.
15/11/2009 08:22:58 PM
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Well, it does remind me of the MHael Steve incident a number of games back...
16/11/2009 05:57:11 AM
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Yes, I've been thinking of game 3 too
16/11/2009 06:16:13 AM
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Vote Table
15/11/2009 08:18:37 PM
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I think you're right
15/11/2009 09:26:47 PM
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Sure, I'll mount an accusation
15/11/2009 11:16:07 PM
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Ok it semms I have to clarify a little...
15/11/2009 11:23:09 PM
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Am I suspicious just because I haven't posted much, or is there a different reason? *NM*
17/11/2009 03:24:21 AM
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Quick defense
16/11/2009 05:52:58 AM
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Also: I support hypocopping Fanatic Templar or ranagrande
16/11/2009 05:57:24 AM
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I'm inclined to vote for beetnemesis.
16/11/2009 06:34:15 AM
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I actually tend to agree here.
16/11/2009 07:07:48 PM
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Psh. If I was a DF, I would have backed away from ranagrande as soon as people questioned it
17/11/2009 12:41:07 AM
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But you're backing away from Ranagrande now.
17/11/2009 01:16:17 AM
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I am not! Ranagrande is creepy!
17/11/2009 02:31:03 AM
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You totally suggested we lynch Ranagrande.
17/11/2009 04:25:12 AM
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Hm... ok, but that was really more idle discussion that a focused push for lynch
17/11/2009 05:50:44 AM
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Oh! I remember what I wanted to say!
17/11/2009 02:44:30 AM
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But why keep trying to divert attention to a Cult?
17/11/2009 03:35:28 AM
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Honestly? I just thought it sounded cool. Also, it supported the "no night kill" thing
17/11/2009 05:55:17 AM
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Cult vs crew is a cult win
18/11/2009 03:11:36 AM
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Hm? Was someone saying there were no DFs?
18/11/2009 03:19:35 AM
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I think what some of us are looking for here...
18/11/2009 03:28:25 AM
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Ahem. *Raises hand on stack of Terry Pratchett's "The Truth"*
18/11/2009 05:46:09 AM
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That's messed up
18/11/2009 05:50:01 AM
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I just finished rereading it last night
18/11/2009 05:55:17 AM
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Not really, but there was a debate about whether there could be a cult AND DFs...
18/11/2009 04:41:33 AM
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It is an interesting conundrum.
17/11/2009 05:06:04 AM
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P.S. I'm sorry if being indirectly called a lady is offensive to you.
17/11/2009 05:18:49 AM
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It's like politics.
17/11/2009 06:31:04 PM
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Honestly, I blame my new job
18/11/2009 05:52:28 AM
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Re: Honestly, I blame my new job
18/11/2009 09:23:34 AM
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No...
18/11/2009 12:47:40 PM
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actually
18/11/2009 01:15:00 PM
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Simply because you don't see any hard evidence is not enough of a reason not to vote.
18/11/2009 05:26:18 PM
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I may be swayed to vote here because as FT or Isaac had said (i forget which),
18/11/2009 06:43:15 PM
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I agree he looks pretty suspicious,
17/11/2009 03:39:18 AM
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That would be a reasonable conclusion...
17/11/2009 04:54:47 AM
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RBIRL 'til Thursday.
15/11/2009 11:10:49 PM
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reason why i voted for hopper yesterday
16/11/2009 03:22:22 AM
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Well, any reason for voting for Hopper was basically a good reason.
16/11/2009 05:32:22 AM
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RBIRL until Wednesday.
16/11/2009 02:09:34 PM
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Didn't pass the test.
18/11/2009 03:09:29 PM
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Failed by one point, I might add. Curses. *NM*
18/11/2009 03:10:39 PM
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Apparently that both sucks and blows at the same time. But sorry man. Good luck on Monday. *NM*
18/11/2009 09:52:36 PM
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Actually people...
18/11/2009 08:53:08 PM
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Re: Actually people...
18/11/2009 09:44:53 PM
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Re: Actually people...
19/11/2009 02:36:59 PM
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Is this a bad time to suggest the liklihood that fistofpainx isn't a DF?
18/11/2009 10:55:11 PM
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Re: Is this a bad time to suggest the liklihood that fistofpainx isn't a DF?
19/11/2009 02:54:19 PM
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Ok i have to say something or i will be killed
18/11/2009 11:30:38 PM
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Considering I am going to die anyway...........
18/11/2009 11:36:14 PM
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Have you completely gone off your bloody gourd?
19/11/2009 01:58:32 AM
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I suppose I actually have to write an analysis now..... Darned honor...... It'll be short though....
19/11/2009 02:38:22 AM
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I have a proposition, that might be amenable to everyone
19/11/2009 02:53:04 AM
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Whenever anyone asks for one more night, one more day...
19/11/2009 03:37:32 AM
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But... that's the OPPOSITE of the intended reaction!
19/11/2009 04:12:02 AM
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This right here is making me vote for you:
19/11/2009 03:16:00 PM
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Fair enough
19/11/2009 05:33:28 PM
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Re: Wreaking Havoc
19/11/2009 08:09:18 PM
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Super-killing machine would be the coolest role ever
19/11/2009 10:53:04 PM
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DEATH UNICORN!
19/11/2009 11:24:25 PM
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Re: DEATH UNICORN!
20/11/2009 01:33:39 AM
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I want to be in that band.
20/11/2009 03:16:29 AM
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!!!
20/11/2009 04:18:07 PM
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YES.
20/11/2009 06:01:21 PM
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Narwhals, Narwhals, swimming in the ocea, causin a commotion, Coz they are so awesome...
20/11/2009 09:30:09 PM
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I may just be digging myself a deep grave...
19/11/2009 08:37:38 PM
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I dunno ... it's hard for me to say.
19/11/2009 11:10:55 PM
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DEATH UNICORN!
19/11/2009 11:12:33 PM
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Umm ... this does not belong here. Whoopsies! *NM*
19/11/2009 11:23:40 PM
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beetnemesis has been Lynched.
20/11/2009 04:23:15 AM
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Lol Isaac didn't even vote!
20/11/2009 04:42:58 AM
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Blackout
20/11/2009 11:21:48 PM
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I'm off to explore the universe on my ethereal Death Unicorn- Farewell!
21/11/2009 12:59:20 AM
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