I'm guessing you're removing Fox for exactly the reason you said, DF or not, but this is exactly how I'd do it. Let's say right now you, me, and Hopper were the DF team. I'd say I feel kinda bad about killing both of you last game, as essentialy random sacrifices, and that while you might be guilty, we shouldn't include you on the random list, to give you a chance to play this game, DF or town. Bam, now you're both off the list. The town gets to pick randomly off a list composed of all townies. If it's not real solid, or real random (like picking a MVP or the newest player etc as 'ref' to get 10) then they need to stay on. And actually, if the newest player were a buddy DF, that would also be a great way to get them knocked off the list. "If we're going to randomly off people, and we need to deselect one more to avoid overcomplicating random selection, let's leave the newb off, give them a chance to play" Taking DK, me, and Hobo off is safe enough, since we can use the very reasons I suggested our removal as our defense, which will work and will just make whoever else gets picked have any even slimmer chance of surviving. On things like this, you have to minimize the room for the DFs to maneuver, because they are in a better position to do so and odds favor they will manage to stack the deck somehow.