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I didn't mean we shouldn't reference strategies from earlier games Bergioyn Send a noteboard - 01/02/2010 02:23:26 PM
just that something said/done in earlier game shouldn't be used as justification to vote someone.
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Rafo Mafia 4: Day 1 has ended. Gher - 27/01/2010 05:53:50 PM 3823 Views
Message received! ranagrande - 27/01/2010 06:27:15 PM 1938 Views
By lynching Isaac! Fanatic-Templar - 27/01/2010 06:48:02 PM 1753 Views
Ready to go. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 27/01/2010 06:36:35 PM 1028 Views
Got it! *NM* Darth_Katie - 27/01/2010 06:43:59 PM 1024 Views
Got mine. Wow, we really have nothing to go on, do we? *NM* beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 07:03:28 PM 1033 Views
For reals, it doesn't get much more minimal than that! *NM* Darth_Katie - 27/01/2010 09:16:44 PM 1049 Views
This is a confirmation of the prompt receival of said role message. Napoleon62 - 27/01/2010 08:30:45 PM 1810 Views
You made it up ranagrande - 27/01/2010 09:01:31 PM 1750 Views
Hmm ... Darth_Katie - 27/01/2010 09:21:59 PM 1861 Views
Ha. Napoleon62 - 28/01/2010 01:28:27 AM 1661 Views
It sounds like a real word. Darth_Katie - 28/01/2010 01:55:58 AM 1761 Views
That's because it sounds like "retrieval" Kronin al'Sulc - 28/01/2010 02:01:47 AM 1725 Views
This is true. *NM* Darth_Katie - 28/01/2010 02:17:52 AM 1058 Views
Also 'reception'. Fanatic-Templar - 28/01/2010 01:22:27 AM 1764 Views
I got mine. *NM* Bergioyn - 27/01/2010 09:00:49 PM 1037 Views
ready to win *NM* fistofpainx - 27/01/2010 09:29:52 PM 1075 Views
I got mine!! *NM* Hobo - 27/01/2010 10:45:45 PM 1031 Views
Here, received *NM* Isaac - 27/01/2010 11:01:43 PM 993 Views
Got it!! Fox and Ravens - 27/01/2010 11:34:57 PM 1673 Views
Got it White Flame of Tar Valon - 28/01/2010 01:59:00 AM 1791 Views
yup *NM* Hieshyn - 28/01/2010 05:13:37 AM 989 Views
You know, I'm still irritated we haven't been able to come up with a good R1 system beetnemesis - 28/01/2010 07:08:22 AM 1732 Views
R1? Darth_Katie - 28/01/2010 01:59:45 PM 1752 Views
Day 1 ranagrande - 28/01/2010 02:29:42 PM 1734 Views
Right, Day 1, I meant to type D1... beetnemesis - 28/01/2010 05:52:57 PM 1707 Views
Well, lacking anything else... Isaac - 28/01/2010 11:58:25 PM 1867 Views
I haven't the faintest idea what they mean. Darth_Katie - 29/01/2010 01:30:19 AM 1808 Views
I'm guessing they're an acronym. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 29/01/2010 01:44:37 AM 1041 Views
I got letters and/or numbers beetnemesis - 29/01/2010 01:58:52 AM 1878 Views
Not really Isaac - 29/01/2010 02:27:05 AM 1799 Views
Let's try something Isaac - 29/01/2010 02:47:30 AM 1747 Views
Re: Let's try something Hobo - 29/01/2010 03:07:36 AM 1732 Views
alrighty then fistofpainx - 29/01/2010 03:29:51 AM 1776 Views
That's sufficient, thanks Isaac - 29/01/2010 03:48:11 AM 1642 Views
Yea, my message has all that. Kronin al'Sulc - 29/01/2010 03:56:52 AM 1800 Views
Probably Isaac - 29/01/2010 04:10:42 AM 1704 Views
Re: Probably Fanatic-Templar - 29/01/2010 07:30:48 AM 1671 Views
True- most DFs would wait a bit, and be like the 4th or 5th to jump in beetnemesis - 29/01/2010 08:19:43 AM 1752 Views
I've got MPD beetnemesis - 29/01/2010 04:22:00 AM 1741 Views
Surprise, surprise: I do too. Darth_Katie - 29/01/2010 06:21:04 AM 1745 Views
Remember when we killed the Serial Killer on Day 1? That was fun. Let's do that! *NM* beetnemesis - 29/01/2010 08:20:24 AM 989 Views
GREAT. Darth_Katie - 29/01/2010 11:23:06 PM 1681 Views
Seconded. Kronin al'Sulc - 30/01/2010 03:46:21 AM 1768 Views
I have MPD and number under 14. *NM* Bergioyn - 29/01/2010 06:18:59 AM 1072 Views
Me too, but... ranagrande - 29/01/2010 04:04:35 PM 1713 Views
I doubt there is anything else. Hobo - 29/01/2010 11:09:02 PM 1805 Views
I have MPD and number under 14 as well White Flame of Tar Valon - 29/01/2010 08:08:57 PM 1840 Views
MPD #1 Hieshyn - 30/01/2010 02:57:35 AM 1640 Views
I like to think of the first kill as a sacrifice to the Gods of Mafia beetnemesis - 30/01/2010 04:14:17 AM 1827 Views
Re: I like to think of the first kill as a sacrifice to the Gods of Mafia Isaac - 30/01/2010 04:27:53 AM 1737 Views
High priests cannot be sacrificed! beetnemesis - 30/01/2010 04:53:38 PM 1645 Views
Ha, that's what YOU think. Darth_Katie - 30/01/2010 05:15:44 PM 1746 Views
Some cultures, they make the best sacrifices Isaac - 30/01/2010 05:47:46 PM 1733 Views
Hm... let's rule out F&R, too beetnemesis - 30/01/2010 06:46:27 PM 1792 Views
This is sort of what I mean Isaac - 30/01/2010 08:02:17 PM 1672 Views
I think I am most suspicious of Blaine right now ranagrande - 30/01/2010 07:49:03 PM 1767 Views
Yeah, silence isn't neccessarily damning in this case beetnemesis - 30/01/2010 11:15:09 PM 1670 Views
I want to roleclaim. Fanatic-Templar - 30/01/2010 07:08:11 PM 1766 Views
That is, well, surprising Isaac - 30/01/2010 08:28:04 PM 1798 Views
Yeah, but I think it's best to do it now. Fanatic-Templar - 30/01/2010 09:38:49 PM 1658 Views
That sounds like solid reasoning to me ranagrande - 30/01/2010 10:07:05 PM 1769 Views
It is good reasoning. Darth_Katie - 30/01/2010 11:24:31 PM 1642 Views
RBIRL for the next week or so. Blaine - 01/02/2010 01:02:48 AM 1793 Views
Wrong place Blaine - 01/02/2010 01:06:57 AM 1616 Views
this is an odd development fistofpainx - 30/01/2010 09:19:03 PM 1725 Views
Not to my knowledge, no. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 30/01/2010 09:35:02 PM 970 Views
Hm. I wonder if we're all robots inside of a Mafia simulator. *NM* beetnemesis - 30/01/2010 11:20:25 PM 925 Views
There's an idea. Darth_Katie - 30/01/2010 11:25:56 PM 1707 Views
AI gone rogue could easily be an SK... *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 31/01/2010 12:42:19 AM 921 Views
Goddamn, do I hate Miller roles. Kronin al'Sulc - 31/01/2010 12:39:32 AM 1834 Views
Well, I'm back... Napoleon62 - 31/01/2010 01:43:17 AM 1717 Views
Why do fencers keep appearing without me knowing of it?!? Kronin al'Sulc - 31/01/2010 02:48:22 AM 1741 Views
Sabre... Napoleon62 - 31/01/2010 03:18:12 AM 1752 Views
HELL YEAH! Fox and Ravens - 31/01/2010 08:39:52 AM 1761 Views
Oh, and I had my first real tournament today... Napoleon62 - 31/01/2010 03:23:45 AM 1762 Views
Huzzah! Kronin al'Sulc - 31/01/2010 04:41:02 AM 1726 Views
How about a club with a nail in it? Darth_Katie - 31/01/2010 05:50:18 AM 1725 Views
Eh. Just don't listen to Issac too much. beetnemesis - 31/01/2010 04:47:53 AM 1712 Views
I wanna say F-T, just cause I hate Millers. Kronin al'Sulc - 31/01/2010 05:10:07 AM 1644 Views
But do you think a DF would try something that DFs already did in the game we just played? Darth_Katie - 31/01/2010 05:53:24 AM 1728 Views
And on a third hand... Fanatic-Templar - 31/01/2010 07:00:22 AM 1781 Views
So... back to neutral. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 31/01/2010 03:27:58 PM 896 Views
You don't find that statement dubious? Isaac - 31/01/2010 04:14:47 PM 1717 Views
Yeah, that's a bit fishy. *NM* Darth_Katie - 31/01/2010 04:18:17 PM 934 Views
Yeah it is... ranagrande - 31/01/2010 04:55:29 PM 1798 Views
You make a fair point. Kronin al'Sulc - 31/01/2010 04:38:44 PM 1760 Views
I knew Yunalseca was a Darkfriend... Fanatic-Templar - 31/01/2010 07:17:33 PM 1687 Views
Everyone! Deep breaths... beetnemesis - 31/01/2010 11:50:39 PM 1710 Views
That's a pretty big thing to forget though. Darth_Katie - 01/02/2010 01:39:44 AM 1680 Views
Re: That's a pretty big thing to forget though. beetnemesis - 01/02/2010 01:59:16 AM 1695 Views
Who said anything about forgetting? Fanatic-Templar - 01/02/2010 02:53:49 AM 1721 Views
It brings you protection from guilty Cop results. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 01/02/2010 03:01:22 AM 1063 Views
And among that, Fox and Ravens - 01/02/2010 04:54:26 AM 1802 Views
No... Fanatic-Templar - 01/02/2010 06:25:07 AM 1713 Views
Man... I hate defending people I'm not sure about beetnemesis - 01/02/2010 07:14:13 AM 1746 Views
I agree with beet here. Bergioyn - 01/02/2010 07:42:12 AM 1694 Views
Offer alternatives then Isaac - 01/02/2010 11:18:47 AM 1738 Views
I didn't mean we shouldn't reference strategies from earlier games Bergioyn - 01/02/2010 02:23:26 PM 1716 Views
Oh, that's what you're talking about. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 01/02/2010 12:27:30 PM 963 Views
I agree, more or less Isaac - 31/01/2010 05:55:11 AM 1753 Views
Re: I agree, more or less White Flame of Tar Valon - 31/01/2010 03:34:10 PM 1746 Views
Tracker is a role that sees who his target performs a Night Action on... Kronin al'Sulc - 31/01/2010 03:49:24 PM 1616 Views
Idk what all this talk about a Tracker is over. Darth_Katie - 31/01/2010 04:17:17 PM 1655 Views
I was the one who said it. Kronin al'Sulc - 31/01/2010 04:39:53 PM 1726 Views
Re: I agree, more or less Isaac - 31/01/2010 04:19:33 PM 1703 Views
Re: I agree, more or less White Flame of Tar Valon - 31/01/2010 07:41:07 PM 1713 Views
That's a standard Miller. Fanatic-Templar - 31/01/2010 07:46:33 PM 1711 Views
The reason people say I should die... Fanatic-Templar - 31/01/2010 07:40:38 PM 1813 Views
I don't think Gher made a lot of changes. Darth_Katie - 31/01/2010 04:23:42 PM 1780 Views
Eh. I think this is going to end like Hopper. beetnemesis - 31/01/2010 11:58:52 PM 1701 Views
What I don't like is the fact that Millers are often not told they're Millers. Kronin al'Sulc - 01/02/2010 12:08:14 AM 1724 Views
Well, he could still be Mafia and have appropriate flavor. Darth_Katie - 01/02/2010 01:46:58 AM 1719 Views
I'm just trying to take everything into account. Kronin al'Sulc - 01/02/2010 02:33:15 AM 1717 Views
I know, I'm just sayin' *NM* Darth_Katie - 01/02/2010 02:53:31 AM 966 Views
We can't just lynch Isaac on the off chance that he might be a DF. Darth_Katie - 31/01/2010 05:42:08 AM 1732 Views
Sure we could Hieshyn - 31/01/2010 05:26:43 PM 1675 Views
Alright, from my reading, Fox and Ravens - 31/01/2010 10:53:52 PM 1698 Views
I don't think we should reveal numbers yet beetnemesis - 01/02/2010 12:05:07 AM 1570 Views
Yeah, number revelation would probably not be the best thing... Napoleon62 - 01/02/2010 12:19:49 AM 1725 Views
RBIRL for the next week or so Blaine - 01/02/2010 01:08:53 AM 1776 Views
RE: I didn't mean we shouldn't reference strategies from earlier games (horizontal scroll avoidance) Isaac - 01/02/2010 02:46:35 PM 1813 Views
Oh, I totally agree beetnemesis - 01/02/2010 05:07:32 PM 1645 Views
I agree too. Darth_Katie - 01/02/2010 05:18:58 PM 1723 Views
I really just meant that I don't think F-T's claim of not knowing about Yuna's claim is Bergioyn - 01/02/2010 06:16:11 PM 1700 Views
* is not enough, typo in above message *NM* Bergioyn - 01/02/2010 06:16:45 PM 1129 Views
You still haven't explained what the purpose of such a lie would be. Fanatic-Templar - 01/02/2010 07:15:35 PM 1673 Views
I think the rationale was this: beetnemesis - 01/02/2010 07:38:41 PM 1624 Views
That's a good breakdown Fox and Ravens - 01/02/2010 07:58:44 PM 1673 Views
Beg Pardon? Isaac - 01/02/2010 08:07:20 PM 1688 Views
Oof, I meant Cop, not tracker beetnemesis - 01/02/2010 08:41:56 PM 2052 Views
It's true, Isaac likes to be a leader, rather than a doer. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 01/02/2010 11:17:02 PM 967 Views
Coward. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 01/02/2010 11:17:21 PM 994 Views
LOL, it's not like I twiddle my thumbs Kronin Isaac - 02/02/2010 12:53:26 AM 1691 Views
Kidding, kidding. Forgot a *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 02/02/2010 01:25:55 AM 923 Views
Er... what just happened, here? *NM* beetnemesis - 02/02/2010 12:55:51 AM 1026 Views
I made a pointless post, decided to turn it into a semi-sarcastic insult. Kronin al'Sulc - 02/02/2010 01:27:48 AM 1705 Views
There's not really anything to explain Isaac - 01/02/2010 09:20:57 PM 1742 Views
Re: There's not really anything to explain Fanatic-Templar - 01/02/2010 10:03:57 PM 1716 Views
Re: There's not really anything to explain Isaac - 01/02/2010 10:33:49 PM 1769 Views
Re: There's not really anything to explain Fanatic-Templar - 01/02/2010 11:11:37 PM 1743 Views
Maybe you should ask one of the others to explain this to me Isaac - 02/02/2010 12:01:48 AM 1667 Views
Re: Maybe you should ask one of the others to explain this to me Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 01:15:41 AM 1752 Views
Different situation Isaac - 02/02/2010 01:39:15 AM 1776 Views
Re: Different situation Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 04:48:30 AM 1768 Views
What, is the shadow in amador still going? Napoleon62 - 02/02/2010 08:09:41 PM 1795 Views
It's very still going. Kronin al'Sulc - 03/02/2010 11:41:13 PM 1581 Views
Right, so: A New Target beetnemesis - 01/02/2010 08:03:28 PM 1862 Views
Re: Right, so: A New Target Isaac - 01/02/2010 08:20:06 PM 1613 Views
Re: Right, so: A New Target *NM* beetnemesis - 01/02/2010 08:48:25 PM 911 Views
Message get eaten? *NM* Isaac - 01/02/2010 09:21:34 PM 942 Views
Apparantly... It was just a minor thing, lemme see if I remember... beetnemesis - 02/02/2010 12:44:28 AM 1715 Views
Right, so: Defending Myself Kronin al'Sulc - 01/02/2010 11:30:38 PM 1813 Views
Accusations should not be mutually exclusive ranagrande - 01/02/2010 11:50:45 PM 1694 Views
F-T will not disppear, but I feel like that what he wants. Kronin al'Sulc - 02/02/2010 12:25:33 AM 1793 Views
Shrug. Someone asked for alternatives, I came up with one beetnemesis - 02/02/2010 12:37:28 AM 1857 Views
RBIRL Darth_Katie - 02/02/2010 01:30:41 AM 1606 Views
Hmm...more accusations beyond beet's Fox and Ravens - 02/02/2010 06:02:51 AM 1665 Views
That's interesting. Darth_Katie - 02/02/2010 02:09:52 PM 1721 Views
Re: That's interesting. Isaac - 02/02/2010 05:19:47 PM 1676 Views
Fair question, but it's actually pretty straightforward. Isaac - 02/02/2010 04:41:18 PM 1832 Views
Your logic isn't terrible... Fox and Ravens - 02/02/2010 04:54:54 PM 1640 Views
Re: Your logic isn't terrible... Isaac - 02/02/2010 05:42:43 PM 1705 Views
Re: Your logic isn't terrible... Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 08:42:27 PM 1784 Views
Re: Your logic isn't terrible... Isaac - 02/02/2010 09:05:29 PM 1687 Views
Oh you mathematicians. Fox and Ravens - 02/02/2010 09:24:55 PM 1633 Views
Re: The random thing beetnemesis - 02/02/2010 04:59:42 PM 1863 Views
Nah, I anticipated this would make me the prime lynch candidate. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 08:48:19 PM 1808 Views
Re: Nah, I anticipated this would make me the prime lynch candidate. Isaac - 02/02/2010 09:23:43 PM 1742 Views
This is sort of deja vu Isaac - 02/02/2010 10:37:57 PM 1766 Views
We need to invent a new role: "Itchy Trigger Finger" beetnemesis - 02/02/2010 11:21:46 PM 1679 Views
Okay, so I've been reading, but I kept meaning to post on my comp. Sorry. Hobo - 02/02/2010 06:21:12 AM 1765 Views
I never tried to stop any discussion ranagrande - 02/02/2010 12:46:54 PM 1750 Views
Like I said, I don't find it very suspicious, but it was just something I had seen. Hobo - 02/02/2010 11:14:53 PM 1752 Views
Kronin is at least as suspicious as Issac, or F-T beetnemesis - 02/02/2010 05:09:56 PM 1721 Views
That's pretty bold claim of intention. Darth_Katie - 02/02/2010 05:18:40 PM 1724 Views
Perhaps I meant more that they've picked an inclination? beetnemesis - 02/02/2010 05:50:26 PM 1679 Views
Hmm. Darth_Katie - 03/02/2010 09:20:50 PM 1782 Views
Re: Hmm. beetnemesis - 04/02/2010 07:08:35 PM 1730 Views
I don't think we should clear F-T just yet... Napoleon62 - 02/02/2010 08:18:22 PM 1756 Views
Vote: Fanatic-Templar fistofpainx - 03/02/2010 04:36:52 AM 1792 Views
Fair enough, though I think we should give it some more time. Fox and Ravens - 03/02/2010 05:16:40 AM 1742 Views
What's funny is that at first I thought F-T was voting for YOU beetnemesis - 03/02/2010 07:12:39 AM 1712 Views
Re: Vote: Fanatic-Templar White Flame of Tar Valon - 03/02/2010 03:13:57 PM 1824 Views
Speaking of time... Kronin al'Sulc - 03/02/2010 03:28:42 PM 1776 Views
Only if it starts to grind to a halt. *NM* Gher - 03/02/2010 04:50:32 PM 1010 Views
Re: Only if it starts to grind to a halt. White Flame of Tar Valon - 03/02/2010 06:52:54 PM 1788 Views
Yes. Gher - 03/02/2010 07:55:54 PM 1762 Views
Sounds like a good system to me. *NM* Darth_Katie - 03/02/2010 09:22:15 PM 966 Views
Those are basically my exact thoughts on the matter as well *NM* ranagrande - 03/02/2010 09:12:35 PM 991 Views
Er... IS it active? I feel like we've kinda exhausted everything beetnemesis - 03/02/2010 11:19:29 PM 1655 Views
Hahaha. well, it was! Fox and Ravens - 04/02/2010 12:59:13 AM 1658 Views
Unless that's what he wants us to think... *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 04/02/2010 01:06:43 AM 931 Views
Exactly. Darth_Katie - 04/02/2010 01:20:54 AM 1763 Views
"No lynch" is a bad idea. At the very least, let's lynch someone random *NM* beetnemesis - 04/02/2010 04:07:00 AM 973 Views
Everybody knows my perspective on no lynches...or at least I suspect they do. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 04/02/2010 04:09:17 AM 1015 Views
So you'd rather lynch someone random over F-T? Why? Darth_Katie - 04/02/2010 04:35:40 AM 1761 Views
Because I think F-T is almost definitely not a DF beetnemesis - 04/02/2010 06:58:15 AM 1736 Views
Re: Because I think F-T is almost definitely not a DF Hobo - 04/02/2010 07:07:37 AM 1617 Views
Well, yeah- a chance of getting a DF is better than no chance at all beetnemesis - 04/02/2010 07:04:27 PM 1687 Views
But there is a chance F-T is a DF. Darth_Katie - 04/02/2010 07:34:37 PM 1679 Views
Fair enough... beetnemesis - 04/02/2010 07:49:26 PM 1680 Views
I agree with D_K actually Napoleon62 - 04/02/2010 08:32:09 PM 1778 Views
Vote: Fanatic-Templar Isaac - 04/02/2010 09:42:01 PM 1740 Views
Hah! Time-delayed RCs, I love it *NM* beetnemesis - 04/02/2010 11:17:35 PM 958 Views
You think F-T has less than a 29% (4/14) chance to be a DF? Kronin al'Sulc - 04/02/2010 08:55:34 PM 1622 Views
If a given random person is 30%, then yes, I think F-T is 29% or less beetnemesis - 04/02/2010 11:20:26 PM 1713 Views
Re: Because I think F-T is almost definitely not a DF Fox and Ravens - 04/02/2010 08:29:03 PM 1625 Views
Vote: Fanatic-Templar Kronin al'Sulc - 04/02/2010 08:58:16 PM 1728 Views
Re: Vote: Fanatic-Templar White Flame of Tar Valon - 04/02/2010 09:28:09 PM 1608 Views
I regret that I have only one life to give to the Light... Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 11:00:56 PM 1716 Views
You know, you're still at L-3. Kronin al'Sulc - 04/02/2010 11:14:40 PM 1908 Views
L-2, as it were. Darth_Katie - 04/02/2010 11:41:10 PM 1676 Views
Just had to make me incorrect? Kronin al'Sulc - 04/02/2010 11:55:02 PM 1642 Views
I couldn't resist. *NM* Darth_Katie - 05/02/2010 01:07:59 AM 956 Views
Kronin al'Sulc - 05/02/2010 01:15:51 AM 1751 Views
Well, neither Bergioyn or Blaine have weighed in for a while. Darth_Katie - 05/02/2010 01:38:05 AM 1726 Views
Mafia > schooling. Kronin al'Sulc - 05/02/2010 01:42:17 AM 1662 Views
No, it's actually L-1 ranagrande - 05/02/2010 03:17:32 AM 1885 Views
Wrong again. Hobo - 05/02/2010 03:23:29 AM 1689 Views
Yeah, but I wasn't sure if I'd still be alive next time I came around . Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 03:12:19 AM 1674 Views
Isaac - 05/02/2010 12:20:04 AM 1754 Views
I don't anyone will target you with a night action tonight, frankly. Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 03:14:26 AM 1721 Views
Fanatic-Templar has been lynched. Gher - 05/02/2010 03:54:43 AM 1778 Views
I want to say one non-game related thing Fox and Ravens - 07/02/2010 06:21:40 PM 1711 Views
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