'cause what you're basically saying here is that we're not going to get any information from Beet's lynch. Where are we supposed to get stuff to work with then? I mean, that's about all we talked about Yesterday in some form or the other. I agree that it's not very clear-cut at all and there are a lot of ifs and uncertainties, but idk if we can just dismiss it outright. At the very least, we can probably be sure that at least a few DFs took part. Granted, I am not really sure how far that can get us, but there it is.



I was thinking this too when I was trying to come up with reasons why the RBer wouldn't want to come forward. But it doesn't make much sense for there to be an innocent back-up RBer if the original RBer is scum. Idk, it's a really weird situation. I'd like to think that Gher isn't playing enormous mind games with us by including deputies for roles that don't actually exist, but I could be wrong. He could really be that mean.















I agree we shouldn't mass claim Today. If there is a Doc and especially a Cop still hanging around (and there almost certainly is a Cop, at least), then we want to give them at least another Night to work their magic. With likely such a high ratio of scum to townies, they're more likely than not to hit on a Mafia Tonight.




I don't want to drag this Day out longer than necessary either, but right now I think we are working with some very limited information. If I had to pick one person right now who looked the most suspicious to me, just from reviewing the events of the Day, it would be Fox and Ravens. Just a lot of really coincidental stuff that doesn't really add up all that well. I know that I said Yesterday that I thought he was probably Town, but now that I go back and look at it, a lot of his actions could be cast in a more sinister light. One of the big things from Yesterday was that he was so adamant in his accusation against Ranagrande despite the lack of evidence. Surely, I said, no DF would ever be so silly in their pursuit of a Townie who had nothing on them? But perhaps Fox simply ended up sticking with Ranagrande so long after it was pointed out the case was non-existent because he didn't want to be accused of flip-flopping. He'd already been accused of flip-flopping in the case of Hieshyn, so perhaps he didn't want to push his luck and just stuck with the "I'm a Townie stubbornly following my intuition" model. He did switch his vote from Ranagrande to Beet at the end once it became obvious that his target of choice wasn't going to be lynched. Now there's something to be said for pragmatism, but still. Facts are facts. Of course, anything can be construed into scummy behavior; I'm just saying this is what stuck out to me when I was doing the Vote Table. What do you all think?