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That's what I mean right there. j-whitt987 Send a noteboard - 19/01/2011 06:48:38 PM
Copyright infringement refers to passing off copyrighted materials as your own and making a profit off of them. The entities that make illegal copies of shows and movies available are guilty of copyright infringement.


When someone downloads a show from a torrent site it's not being profited off of. (Is that even a correct sentence?) If no body is profiting how is that considered copyright infringement? What is the punishable crime if it's not copyright infringement or stealing?

This doesn't really cover what is happening when an individual downloads something, not paying, for their own personal enjoyment. We are not talking about a good, a physical thing. But yet, the 'show' is a commodity/service, something that is provided with the intent that something of value be traded for the right to possess and use the commodity.

The idea that this is stealing is the same as the idea that if your neighbor is paying for cable TV and if you piggyback off the source to get cable as well, you are thus said to be 'stealing cable'. You aren't making the commodity unavailable for someone else. You are however not paying for something that is intended to be paid for, in some manner or other, and are thus limiting the possible sale or total potential value of a property.

The legal system still really hasn't caught up with technology and in how goods and services are being transacted in digital markets.
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Re: you can't legally record and distribute TV shows - 19/01/2011 09:52:48 PM 1436 Views
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Ignorance of the law is not a valid defence *NM* - 21/01/2011 01:21:25 PM 630 Views
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A lot of it's volume. - 19/01/2011 05:32:03 PM 1271 Views
Your argument lacks merit. - 19/01/2011 05:50:11 PM 1276 Views
Agreed. - 19/01/2011 06:01:13 PM 1103 Views
Both terms lack accuracy in this case really. - 19/01/2011 06:37:29 PM 1534 Views
That's what I mean right there. - 19/01/2011 06:48:38 PM 1284 Views
The punishable crime is - 21/01/2011 01:57:54 PM 1465 Views
Re: Your argument lacks merit. - 20/01/2011 03:40:20 PM 1225 Views
In my opinion - 19/01/2011 09:22:29 PM 1244 Views
The battle is over, the internet won - 19/01/2011 10:12:50 PM 1220 Views
We need to distinguish between a crime and a tort. - 19/01/2011 10:17:30 PM 1374 Views
Very interesting. - 19/01/2011 10:28:35 PM 1391 Views
Another scrabble word for you is "delict". That's what we call tort in Scotland. - 19/01/2011 10:37:08 PM 1279 Views
I saw. - 19/01/2011 10:41:27 PM 1210 Views
It won't get you very many points. - 19/01/2011 10:37:26 PM 1131 Views
I would set me up for tortellini. - 19/01/2011 10:40:45 PM 1186 Views
Also in most circumstances you could use "trot" instead. *NM* - 19/01/2011 10:42:26 PM 709 Views
Very nice legal overview, also I like Scotland's approach a lot - 19/01/2011 11:21:47 PM 1200 Views
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