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Robert? scalius Send a noteboard - 25/05/2011 10:04:09 PM
I may have some details wrong, but I'm pretty sure as far as Joff is concerned, Robert is his father. Joff tries to emulate Robert and wants to be like his father. Now consider how Robert treats Cersi....

Joff is just treating women like his father does. Add in the influence of Cersi's political scheming and manipulation, and you end up with one wretched Joff.
I would slave, to pave the way, to sink your ship of fools.
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GoT 1.07 "You Win or You Die" (Early viewers thread) SPOILERS imlad - 24/05/2011 01:49:47 AM 1624 Views
Re: GoT 1.07 "You Win or You Die" (Early viewers thread) SPOILERS everynametaken - 24/05/2011 03:32:57 AM 984 Views
Yes, I kind of like Cersei as well..... trzaska2000 - 24/05/2011 04:51:38 AM 826 Views
And who turned Joffrey into that little douche? Legolas - 24/05/2011 11:15:05 PM 1049 Views
Robert? scalius - 25/05/2011 10:04:09 PM 745 Views
his mother... aragornital - 28/05/2011 02:39:40 PM 764 Views
They already are trying to blame her (in the show) nossy - 02/06/2011 02:23:08 PM 764 Views
Holy Crap was that ending perfect....."I did warn you not to trust me" - trzaska2000 - 24/05/2011 04:40:33 AM 814 Views
Strange... This is the first episode that disappointed me A Deathwatch Guard - 30/05/2011 09:09:20 AM 777 Views
I see your point but disagree Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 09:20:23 AM 733 Views
I agree, those scenes were very necessary..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:01:06 PM 595 Views
Hmhm yes and no Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:07:52 PM 736 Views
You know, GRRM likely was very supportive of the scene..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:10:58 PM 638 Views
Maybe, but GRRM isn't God and I allow myself to have a differing opinion *NM* Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:13:14 PM 331 Views
Brothels are a way of life in this epic story and play an important role. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 02:32:25 AM 382 Views
No they don't. Chas - 31/05/2011 11:08:36 PM 673 Views
Apparently you haven't read the books because they are all over in them. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:45:58 PM 311 Views
Afer reading your profile, you did read the books, but missed all the brothels in them. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:47:51 PM 349 Views
I recall the brothels Chas - 01/06/2011 12:56:32 AM 788 Views
It's HBO, it's GRRM, what do you expect? trzaska2000 - 01/06/2011 01:31:51 AM 607 Views
HBO has made some fantastic shows. Chas - 01/06/2011 10:39:44 PM 630 Views
The stuff Littlefinger said was really important and needed to be in there. Darth_Katie - 04/06/2011 07:13:41 PM 664 Views
Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:03:40 PM 628 Views
What I remember from the books.....SPOILERS Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:11:27 PM 651 Views
Re: Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS Chas - 31/05/2011 11:15:37 PM 641 Views
Agreed! Another awesome epside! ironclad - 30/05/2011 10:04:59 PM 919 Views
One other thing to think/worry about..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 11:04:47 PM 701 Views
You can't stay away from spoilers, can you? ironclad - 30/05/2011 11:59:39 PM 679 Views
Re: You can't stay away from spoilers, can you? dacole - 31/05/2011 05:49:33 AM 617 Views
There will be lots of white-walker stuff in season 3 (spoilers in case you don't get it) Bramhodoulos - 31/05/2011 08:54:13 AM 834 Views
You make an interesting point *future spoilers* ironclad - 31/05/2011 10:47:29 AM 760 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* imlad - 31/05/2011 01:21:06 PM 721 Views
Wow, that would be a bitching ending..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:29:49 PM 609 Views
If imlad is right, I am pretty sure.. ironclad - 31/05/2011 04:38:32 PM 651 Views
heh? everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:50:10 PM 711 Views
I figure there is a way out of that imlad - 01/06/2011 12:01:08 PM 584 Views
Re: heh? Chas - 01/06/2011 10:41:47 PM 583 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* dacole - 01/06/2011 02:50:26 AM 788 Views
Yup, love my spoilers! trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:25:34 PM 545 Views
I've been thinking about that nossy - 02/06/2011 02:33:30 PM 655 Views
The problem I have with it is the heavy handedness of some scenes snoopcester - 31/05/2011 12:14:13 PM 685 Views
Is that because you know the books/story..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:27:38 PM 616 Views
It might be snoopcester - 31/05/2011 04:37:03 PM 685 Views
Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above A Deathwatch Guard - 31/05/2011 07:17:34 PM 635 Views
Re: Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above snoopcester - 31/05/2011 08:58:44 PM 573 Views
What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 09:19:18 PM 613 Views
Re: What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? Chas - 31/05/2011 11:13:35 PM 646 Views
Baelish did put a dagger to Ned's throat imlad - 01/06/2011 12:06:42 PM 598 Views
I stand corrected. *NM* Chas - 01/06/2011 10:35:49 PM 332 Views
Ah, my mistake... kinda A Deathwatch Guard - 01/06/2011 03:58:46 AM 625 Views
haha nossy - 02/06/2011 02:34:43 PM 798 Views
I assume at some point they are going to tie the two story lines together? random thoughts - 01/06/2011 02:43:12 PM 543 Views
Well....(small spoiler) scalius - 01/06/2011 04:39:47 PM 624 Views
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