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Robert? scalius Send a noteboard - 25/05/2011 10:04:09 PM
I may have some details wrong, but I'm pretty sure as far as Joff is concerned, Robert is his father. Joff tries to emulate Robert and wants to be like his father. Now consider how Robert treats Cersi....

Joff is just treating women like his father does. Add in the influence of Cersi's political scheming and manipulation, and you end up with one wretched Joff.
I would slave, to pave the way, to sink your ship of fools.
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GoT 1.07 "You Win or You Die" (Early viewers thread) SPOILERS imlad - 24/05/2011 01:49:47 AM 1927 Views
Re: GoT 1.07 "You Win or You Die" (Early viewers thread) SPOILERS everynametaken - 24/05/2011 03:32:57 AM 1282 Views
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And who turned Joffrey into that little douche? Legolas - 24/05/2011 11:15:05 PM 1396 Views
Robert? scalius - 25/05/2011 10:04:09 PM 1071 Views
his mother... aragornital - 28/05/2011 02:39:40 PM 1066 Views
They already are trying to blame her (in the show) nossy - 02/06/2011 02:23:08 PM 1090 Views
Holy Crap was that ending perfect....."I did warn you not to trust me" - trzaska2000 - 24/05/2011 04:40:33 AM 1157 Views
Strange... This is the first episode that disappointed me A Deathwatch Guard - 30/05/2011 09:09:20 AM 1087 Views
I see your point but disagree Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 09:20:23 AM 1046 Views
I agree, those scenes were very necessary..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:01:06 PM 918 Views
Hmhm yes and no Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:07:52 PM 997 Views
You know, GRRM likely was very supportive of the scene..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:10:58 PM 949 Views
Maybe, but GRRM isn't God and I allow myself to have a differing opinion *NM* Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:13:14 PM 491 Views
Brothels are a way of life in this epic story and play an important role. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 02:32:25 AM 534 Views
No they don't. Chas - 31/05/2011 11:08:36 PM 995 Views
Apparently you haven't read the books because they are all over in them. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:45:58 PM 449 Views
Afer reading your profile, you did read the books, but missed all the brothels in them. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:47:51 PM 515 Views
I recall the brothels Chas - 01/06/2011 12:56:32 AM 1093 Views
It's HBO, it's GRRM, what do you expect? trzaska2000 - 01/06/2011 01:31:51 AM 931 Views
HBO has made some fantastic shows. Chas - 01/06/2011 10:39:44 PM 950 Views
The stuff Littlefinger said was really important and needed to be in there. Darth_Katie - 04/06/2011 07:13:41 PM 991 Views
Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:03:40 PM 958 Views
What I remember from the books.....SPOILERS Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:11:27 PM 951 Views
Re: Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS Chas - 31/05/2011 11:15:37 PM 973 Views
Agreed! Another awesome epside! ironclad - 30/05/2011 10:04:59 PM 1230 Views
One other thing to think/worry about..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 11:04:47 PM 1038 Views
You can't stay away from spoilers, can you? ironclad - 30/05/2011 11:59:39 PM 991 Views
Re: You can't stay away from spoilers, can you? dacole - 31/05/2011 05:49:33 AM 911 Views
There will be lots of white-walker stuff in season 3 (spoilers in case you don't get it) Bramhodoulos - 31/05/2011 08:54:13 AM 1132 Views
You make an interesting point *future spoilers* ironclad - 31/05/2011 10:47:29 AM 1090 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* imlad - 31/05/2011 01:21:06 PM 997 Views
Wow, that would be a bitching ending..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:29:49 PM 927 Views
If imlad is right, I am pretty sure.. ironclad - 31/05/2011 04:38:32 PM 950 Views
heh? everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:50:10 PM 1035 Views
I figure there is a way out of that imlad - 01/06/2011 12:01:08 PM 883 Views
Re: heh? Chas - 01/06/2011 10:41:47 PM 904 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* dacole - 01/06/2011 02:50:26 AM 1125 Views
Yup, love my spoilers! trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:25:34 PM 853 Views
I've been thinking about that nossy - 02/06/2011 02:33:30 PM 988 Views
The problem I have with it is the heavy handedness of some scenes snoopcester - 31/05/2011 12:14:13 PM 991 Views
Is that because you know the books/story..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:27:38 PM 927 Views
It might be snoopcester - 31/05/2011 04:37:03 PM 1028 Views
Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above A Deathwatch Guard - 31/05/2011 07:17:34 PM 957 Views
Re: Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above snoopcester - 31/05/2011 08:58:44 PM 901 Views
What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 09:19:18 PM 927 Views
Re: What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? Chas - 31/05/2011 11:13:35 PM 958 Views
Baelish did put a dagger to Ned's throat imlad - 01/06/2011 12:06:42 PM 912 Views
I stand corrected. *NM* Chas - 01/06/2011 10:35:49 PM 484 Views
Ah, my mistake... kinda A Deathwatch Guard - 01/06/2011 03:58:46 AM 946 Views
haha nossy - 02/06/2011 02:34:43 PM 1089 Views
I assume at some point they are going to tie the two story lines together? random thoughts - 01/06/2011 02:43:12 PM 870 Views
Well....(small spoiler) scalius - 01/06/2011 04:39:47 PM 943 Views
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