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Robert? scalius Send a noteboard - 25/05/2011 10:04:09 PM
I may have some details wrong, but I'm pretty sure as far as Joff is concerned, Robert is his father. Joff tries to emulate Robert and wants to be like his father. Now consider how Robert treats Cersi....

Joff is just treating women like his father does. Add in the influence of Cersi's political scheming and manipulation, and you end up with one wretched Joff.
I would slave, to pave the way, to sink your ship of fools.
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GoT 1.07 "You Win or You Die" (Early viewers thread) SPOILERS imlad - 24/05/2011 01:49:47 AM 1874 Views
Re: GoT 1.07 "You Win or You Die" (Early viewers thread) SPOILERS everynametaken - 24/05/2011 03:32:57 AM 1224 Views
Yes, I kind of like Cersei as well..... trzaska2000 - 24/05/2011 04:51:38 AM 1073 Views
And who turned Joffrey into that little douche? Legolas - 24/05/2011 11:15:05 PM 1321 Views
Robert? scalius - 25/05/2011 10:04:09 PM 1014 Views
his mother... aragornital - 28/05/2011 02:39:40 PM 1011 Views
They already are trying to blame her (in the show) nossy - 02/06/2011 02:23:08 PM 1021 Views
Holy Crap was that ending perfect....."I did warn you not to trust me" - trzaska2000 - 24/05/2011 04:40:33 AM 1090 Views
Strange... This is the first episode that disappointed me A Deathwatch Guard - 30/05/2011 09:09:20 AM 1029 Views
I see your point but disagree Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 09:20:23 AM 996 Views
I agree, those scenes were very necessary..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:01:06 PM 856 Views
Hmhm yes and no Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:07:52 PM 950 Views
You know, GRRM likely was very supportive of the scene..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:10:58 PM 885 Views
Maybe, but GRRM isn't God and I allow myself to have a differing opinion *NM* Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:13:14 PM 448 Views
Brothels are a way of life in this epic story and play an important role. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 02:32:25 AM 499 Views
No they don't. Chas - 31/05/2011 11:08:36 PM 920 Views
Apparently you haven't read the books because they are all over in them. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:45:58 PM 418 Views
Afer reading your profile, you did read the books, but missed all the brothels in them. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:47:51 PM 468 Views
I recall the brothels Chas - 01/06/2011 12:56:32 AM 1042 Views
It's HBO, it's GRRM, what do you expect? trzaska2000 - 01/06/2011 01:31:51 AM 878 Views
HBO has made some fantastic shows. Chas - 01/06/2011 10:39:44 PM 890 Views
The stuff Littlefinger said was really important and needed to be in there. Darth_Katie - 04/06/2011 07:13:41 PM 929 Views
Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:03:40 PM 894 Views
What I remember from the books.....SPOILERS Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:11:27 PM 889 Views
Re: Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS Chas - 31/05/2011 11:15:37 PM 918 Views
Agreed! Another awesome epside! ironclad - 30/05/2011 10:04:59 PM 1176 Views
One other thing to think/worry about..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 11:04:47 PM 973 Views
You can't stay away from spoilers, can you? ironclad - 30/05/2011 11:59:39 PM 940 Views
Re: You can't stay away from spoilers, can you? dacole - 31/05/2011 05:49:33 AM 866 Views
There will be lots of white-walker stuff in season 3 (spoilers in case you don't get it) Bramhodoulos - 31/05/2011 08:54:13 AM 1077 Views
You make an interesting point *future spoilers* ironclad - 31/05/2011 10:47:29 AM 1035 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* imlad - 31/05/2011 01:21:06 PM 938 Views
Wow, that would be a bitching ending..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:29:49 PM 870 Views
If imlad is right, I am pretty sure.. ironclad - 31/05/2011 04:38:32 PM 893 Views
heh? everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:50:10 PM 975 Views
I figure there is a way out of that imlad - 01/06/2011 12:01:08 PM 823 Views
Re: heh? Chas - 01/06/2011 10:41:47 PM 849 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* dacole - 01/06/2011 02:50:26 AM 1053 Views
Yup, love my spoilers! trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:25:34 PM 800 Views
I've been thinking about that nossy - 02/06/2011 02:33:30 PM 928 Views
The problem I have with it is the heavy handedness of some scenes snoopcester - 31/05/2011 12:14:13 PM 932 Views
Is that because you know the books/story..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:27:38 PM 872 Views
It might be snoopcester - 31/05/2011 04:37:03 PM 963 Views
Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above A Deathwatch Guard - 31/05/2011 07:17:34 PM 902 Views
Re: Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above snoopcester - 31/05/2011 08:58:44 PM 844 Views
What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 09:19:18 PM 871 Views
Re: What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? Chas - 31/05/2011 11:13:35 PM 901 Views
Baelish did put a dagger to Ned's throat imlad - 01/06/2011 12:06:42 PM 859 Views
I stand corrected. *NM* Chas - 01/06/2011 10:35:49 PM 449 Views
Ah, my mistake... kinda A Deathwatch Guard - 01/06/2011 03:58:46 AM 885 Views
haha nossy - 02/06/2011 02:34:43 PM 1037 Views
I assume at some point they are going to tie the two story lines together? random thoughts - 01/06/2011 02:43:12 PM 816 Views
Well....(small spoiler) scalius - 01/06/2011 04:39:47 PM 888 Views
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