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Well he does cite Firefly as the superior show. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 16/10/2009 09:01:01 PM
Three of the females from Firefly (and a case could be made for Kaylee) don't fit the "I'm crying and I need your penis" role. Inara had a ton w/o trying, River was more likely to kick one off your body than anything else, and Zoe was the penical owner in that relationship.

Can't comment on his other shows though. I've only seen parts of Buffy and Angel, and Dollhouse is still unfolding into something that seems to be more "I'm a guy and I think you need me, so I'm coming to save you whether you need it or not, but I will probably find out otherwise in the end." Worst sentence ever.


In the first place, Firefly has the fewest hours of running time of any of them. Being in its second season, Dollhouse has to have passed it up. I have long felt that the short run of Firefly (and given my way WOULD have allowed JW all the rope to hang himself as possible), might have been the best thing to happen to that show, as it kept the flaws from emerging. He's dead-on-balls-accurrate about Buffy in regard to the chick-power thing. He did state that Angel and Firefly were both male PoV, male-perspective shows, so presumably this attack on Whedon's alleged feminism would not have applied. There WAS, however, the episode where Wash felt threatened by Zoe's & Mal's history, and inveigled his way onto the mission with Mal, where they got kidnapped by Mr. Nishka, and then the rest of the episode was about Wash asserting his macho side, losing the Hawaiian shirts and going all commando-sleeveless-vest on the rescue mission, and having Zoe make him soup at the end before they go hop into bed together. So much for Zoe the mighty feminist icon. And when she comes to ransom Mal & Wash, and the crimelord tells her she can only have one back, she picks her husband over her war-time comrade-in-arms & commander, before Nishka can even get the words out. Whether you approve of the choice or not, it was hardly the choice of a writer who is trying to portray a woman taking the typical masculine role. So much for "bros before hos"...
Cannoli
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A heretic blasphemes St Joss of Whedon. - 16/10/2009 07:03:29 PM 1075 Views
I have two disagreements. - 16/10/2009 07:20:49 PM 560 Views
Well he does cite Firefly as the superior show. - 16/10/2009 09:01:01 PM 687 Views
About why she saved Wash from Nishka. - 17/10/2009 03:49:06 AM 615 Views
I agree with Seriana. - 17/10/2009 05:42:33 AM 523 Views
Eh, the soup thing was fine - 17/10/2009 10:58:08 PM 491 Views
I don't believe that's a word. - 16/10/2009 10:50:00 PM 569 Views
Interesting article. - 16/10/2009 08:07:47 PM 483 Views
Penny in Dr Horrible - 16/10/2009 10:12:58 PM 855 Views
Not having seen the movies he wrote scripts for... - 16/10/2009 10:34:09 PM 479 Views
That was also the magic bullet episode. - 16/10/2009 11:40:11 PM 479 Views
Re: That was also the magic bullet episode. - 17/10/2009 01:27:32 PM 553 Views
You never saw Toy Story? *NM* - 16/10/2009 11:55:55 PM 219 Views
I'd kind of forgotten he worked on that too, but no, actually. *NM* - 17/10/2009 01:16:35 PM 245 Views
You, sir, have no inner child. *NM* - 17/10/2009 03:29:17 PM 215 Views
<3 cracked. *NM* - 16/10/2009 11:51:42 PM 348 Views
I strongly disagree with the Wash thing. - 16/10/2009 11:54:16 PM 631 Views
Interesting tidbit. - 16/10/2009 11:57:14 PM 542 Views
Huh. Neat. - 17/10/2009 12:22:11 AM 546 Views
Wait, when do we learn about his past in Serenity? - 19/10/2009 03:42:34 AM 537 Views
It was between the lines. I will share my evidence. - 19/10/2009 05:32:25 AM 645 Views
Maybe. But I think Book is honestly religious. - 19/10/2009 09:43:49 PM 581 Views
Yes. - 17/10/2009 03:53:16 AM 452 Views
I don't actually mind the killing happy characters thing, but it IS JW's most noted trait *NM* - 18/10/2009 12:15:00 AM 314 Views
It is what he's known for, though sometimes I wonder why. (General Joss spoilers) - 19/10/2009 05:50:55 AM 515 Views
Hm. (Buffy S7 spoilers) - 19/10/2009 11:39:26 AM 528 Views
Re: - 19/10/2009 04:33:40 PM 629 Views
the first thing is the only one that's really rational - 19/10/2009 05:46:05 AM 605 Views
It's true. - 19/10/2009 05:54:07 AM 468 Views
see, that's the one that always gets me too... - 20/10/2009 06:10:57 PM 525 Views

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