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Penny in Dr Horrible Zeeb Send a noteboard - 16/10/2009 10:12:58 PM
Seriously though, I agree with every word he says here, except about Dollhouse, of which I have only seen the first 3 episodes, & Dr. Horrible, which I only saw about 5 minutes of. Absolutely every word throughout the rest of the review, I wholeheartedly support. I have NEVER read an entertainment article I have agreed with more.


I know a lot of women who are very annoyed with Whedon's proclamations of being a feminist because he has female characters who kick ass (but only if they have magical powers, or a huge gun) and apparently that's all you need.

I also do wonder about the idea that if FIREFLY had gone on any further he'd have also ruined what was great about that show. Apparently he was already considering killing off Inara at the time the show ended, and obviously he killed Wash just for the hell of it.

Penny's death in DR HORRIBLE may work if it sets up the sequel properly, but as it stands as the ending to a one-off special it comes across as rather pointless.

I do like Whedon's shows, on the whole, but he definitely has some weird ideas at times.


Surely Penny dying is the entire point of Dr Horrible! To me it seems like Joss is playing with the typical view of villains and heroes and in the end the 'badguy' feels nothing in what should have been his greatest and most proud moment - where his goal of joining Bad Horse et al. is realised - all because the girl of his dreams is dead and it's his fault. I can't think of a better ending, although of course it sucks and not just because I have a crush on Felicia Day.

Wash dying on the other hand was just rubbish and made me whuh a great deal. But then you kinda need that to happen sometimes as otherwise the author/whatever gets accused of never killing anyone, which is clearly stupid.
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A heretic blasphemes St Joss of Whedon. Cannoli - 16/10/2009 07:03:29 PM 962 Views
I have two disagreements. nossy - 16/10/2009 07:20:49 PM 454 Views
(by which I mean a bunch of typing that somehow turned into 1.5 moderately relevant comments.) *NM* nossy - 16/10/2009 07:25:07 PM 179 Views
Well he does cite Firefly as the superior show. Cannoli - 16/10/2009 09:01:01 PM 596 Views
About why she saved Wash from Nishka. Seriana Sedai - 17/10/2009 03:49:06 AM 515 Views
I agree with Seriana. nossy - 17/10/2009 05:42:33 AM 424 Views
I didn't say she was wrong or that feminists are right, I just presented what their position'd be Cannoli - 18/10/2009 12:11:25 AM 580 Views
Eh, the soup thing was fine beetnemesis - 17/10/2009 10:58:08 PM 395 Views
I don't believe that's a word. Aemon - 16/10/2009 10:50:00 PM 462 Views
Interesting article. Werthead - 16/10/2009 08:07:47 PM 389 Views
Penny in Dr Horrible Zeeb - 16/10/2009 10:12:58 PM 692 Views
So the guy hates Whedon as much as some love him. Craig - 16/10/2009 08:44:39 PM 375 Views
Actually, it suggests he likes Whedon's work, but hates Whedon's posturing & fan excesses. *NM* Cannoli - 16/10/2009 09:02:03 PM 230 Views
I thought that through the first half or so of the article. Craig - 16/10/2009 11:53:34 PM 369 Views
As far as I can have an opinion on them, I agree with all of his points *NM* ironclad - 16/10/2009 09:50:30 PM 203 Views
Not having seen the movies he wrote scripts for... Legolas - 16/10/2009 10:34:09 PM 381 Views
That was also the magic bullet episode. Werthead - 16/10/2009 11:40:11 PM 380 Views
Re: That was also the magic bullet episode. Legolas - 17/10/2009 01:27:32 PM 455 Views
Guns jerk up when fired, especially if you are a sissy poser like Warren. 1st Buffy, 2nd Tara Cannoli - 18/10/2009 12:13:44 AM 567 Views
You never saw Toy Story? *NM* Craig - 16/10/2009 11:55:55 PM 180 Views
I'd kind of forgotten he worked on that too, but no, actually. *NM* Legolas - 17/10/2009 01:16:35 PM 201 Views
You, sir, have no inner child. *NM* Craig - 17/10/2009 03:29:17 PM 167 Views
<3 cracked. *NM* Jessie - 16/10/2009 11:51:42 PM 303 Views
I strongly disagree with the Wash thing. Nate - 16/10/2009 11:54:16 PM 520 Views
Interesting tidbit. Craig - 16/10/2009 11:57:14 PM 436 Views
Huh. Neat. Nate - 17/10/2009 12:22:11 AM 452 Views
Wait, when do we learn about his past in Serenity? Ghavrel - 19/10/2009 03:42:34 AM 444 Views
It was between the lines. I will share my evidence. Nate - 19/10/2009 05:32:25 AM 546 Views
Maybe. But I think Book is honestly religious. Ghavrel - 19/10/2009 09:43:49 PM 478 Views
Yes. Seriana Sedai - 17/10/2009 03:53:16 AM 352 Views
I don't actually mind the killing happy characters thing, but it IS JW's most noted trait *NM* Cannoli - 18/10/2009 12:15:00 AM 272 Views
It is what he's known for, though sometimes I wonder why. (General Joss spoilers) Nate - 19/10/2009 05:50:55 AM 416 Views
Hm. (Buffy S7 spoilers) Legolas - 19/10/2009 11:39:26 AM 415 Views
Re: TaskmasterJack - 19/10/2009 04:33:40 PM 526 Views
...Echo is the baddest ass Kung Fu Whore TV has ever seen... Lol! She IS a naughty little doll. *NM* everynametaken - 18/10/2009 01:36:57 AM 214 Views
the first thing is the only one that's really rational temeraire - 19/10/2009 05:46:05 AM 506 Views
It's true. Nate - 19/10/2009 05:54:07 AM 369 Views
see, that's the one that always gets me too... temeraire - 20/10/2009 06:10:57 PM 425 Views
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