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How is there "No Song?" newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 09/05/2010 12:44:22 AM
A Song was used in the AoL to promote healthy, blight-free, crop growth. That song involved Ogier, Aiel, and Nym. Tinkers are modern-day descendants of the Aiel. The present-day Tinkers seek a Song that is important to them, a song which they think they "lost." The Tinkers feel that this Song is important to them and the world.
It seems fairly clear that the Song they are seeking is the Song that their predecessors sang. This is way more "intuitively obvious" than the identity of Asmodean's killer.
Yes, SINT made some mistakes in his/her/its post. Yes, Ogier are not artificial. Yes, Nym were "made" by humans in the AoL. Still, we don't know anything about how they reproduce. It's possible that the Green Man managed to "plant" a new one. It's also possible that one is in a stasis box.
Those latter two points are not necessary to support what I'm saying, but I felt I should still comment.
In any case, I do not understand why folks claim that there is no Song...
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The Song--how it worked and why it was lost--OGIERS ARE NOT ARTIFICIAL saidarisnowtainted - 06/05/2010 03:25:18 AM 2034 Views
there is no Song. None. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. Bupkis. damookster - 06/05/2010 04:22:38 AM 1379 Views
Spread the word Brother Mook! *NM* krassos - 06/05/2010 05:53:13 PM 570 Views
+1 *NM* Jim - 07/05/2010 05:41:20 AM 564 Views
There is a song, and maybe Rand will return it to them. FanEditor10 - 12/05/2010 07:31:32 AM 1172 Views
I don't feel like going into the Song nonsense again. As for the Tinkers/Jenn... krassos - 12/05/2010 11:51:34 PM 1360 Views
They DID fail the Aes Sedai; at least in their own eyes. FanEditor10 - 16/05/2010 04:59:38 AM 3897 Views
seriously? damookster - 17/05/2010 01:03:09 AM 1056 Views
The Jenn didn't fail the Aes Sedai. krassos - 17/05/2010 04:06:47 PM 1122 Views
it seems more likely that the sin is giving up the Way of the Leaf Jim - 19/05/2010 11:14:38 PM 1256 Views
FYI, more likely to be Perrin, IMO newyorkersedai - 13/05/2010 02:06:49 AM 1357 Views
because Rand was the very first person ever to see that at Rhuidan? damookster - 13/05/2010 05:04:40 AM 1084 Views
I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM 1222 Views
Yeah, RJ said this even Etzel - 06/05/2010 11:54:23 AM 1255 Views
I thought RJ said something about the Ogier being from another planet? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:44:21 PM 1159 Views
This can be inferred from discussion of the Book of Translation *NM* Marshall - 10/05/2010 10:04:05 PM 589 Views
The song was "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. It was lost when the last ter'angreal Ipod broke. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:41:42 PM 1138 Views
LOL *NM* GateKeeper - 06/05/2010 05:37:32 PM 556 Views
Must be Mister Mister playing on the radio or stero *NM* echooff - 06/05/2010 08:12:36 PM 559 Views
According To The Big Book Of Bad Art ClubCaved - 07/05/2010 11:25:20 PM 2205 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art Gaidal Craig - 08/05/2010 08:29:39 PM 1127 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art File Leader - 09/05/2010 01:48:49 AM 1809 Views
Nonsense. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 04:10:30 AM 1080 Views
I think you just found the answer to the Last Battle... *NM* The Count - 09/05/2010 06:12:56 PM 598 Views
Elayne might be able to do it this way.... Mjolner - 10/05/2010 03:55:14 AM 1109 Views
--Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... Tweak - 08/05/2010 03:07:55 AM 1184 Views
Re: --Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... saidarisnowtainted - 10/05/2010 09:59:42 PM 1125 Views
How is there "No Song?" newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 12:44:22 AM 1198 Views
Re: How is there "No Song?" Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 01:38:36 AM 1308 Views
Oh, ok. But... newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 05:26:54 AM 1072 Views
If we want to talk about flashbacks... damookster - 09/05/2010 05:22:34 PM 1130 Views
In addition: The Jenn Aiel had their own paradise construct. krassos - 09/05/2010 06:12:40 PM 1461 Views
I doubt it. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:38:39 PM 1180 Views
LTT asked it because he was bonkers newyorkersedai - 10/05/2010 05:22:06 AM 1122 Views
I agree. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 12:35:43 AM 1160 Views
That's not how his insanity was portrayed. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 02:23:08 AM 1114 Views
If it weren't a Seed Song, why're the Nym needed? if not needed why did they forget how to sing? Mjolner - 11/05/2010 04:48:12 AM 1084 Views
From where did you get the idea that Nym were needed? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:11:15 AM 1115 Views
I got the part about the Nym from a sub thread in this post. One you commented on. Keep up man. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 05:42:14 AM 1157 Views
My only post in other subthreads is a joke response to File Leader, I think? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 06:52:22 AM 1174 Views
The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 01:41:10 PM 1006 Views
Re: The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 07:49:02 PM 1121 Views
Thx for the support, Mjolnir, but I don't agree because newyorkersedai - 12/05/2010 04:17:52 AM 1143 Views
Re: I doubt it. BlackAdder - 11/05/2010 03:36:34 AM 1112 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:12:35 AM 1045 Views
I agree RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/05/2010 02:55:54 PM 1049 Views
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