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How is there "No Song?" newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 09/05/2010 12:44:22 AM
A Song was used in the AoL to promote healthy, blight-free, crop growth. That song involved Ogier, Aiel, and Nym. Tinkers are modern-day descendants of the Aiel. The present-day Tinkers seek a Song that is important to them, a song which they think they "lost." The Tinkers feel that this Song is important to them and the world.
It seems fairly clear that the Song they are seeking is the Song that their predecessors sang. This is way more "intuitively obvious" than the identity of Asmodean's killer.
Yes, SINT made some mistakes in his/her/its post. Yes, Ogier are not artificial. Yes, Nym were "made" by humans in the AoL. Still, we don't know anything about how they reproduce. It's possible that the Green Man managed to "plant" a new one. It's also possible that one is in a stasis box.
Those latter two points are not necessary to support what I'm saying, but I felt I should still comment.
In any case, I do not understand why folks claim that there is no Song...
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The Song--how it worked and why it was lost--OGIERS ARE NOT ARTIFICIAL saidarisnowtainted - 06/05/2010 03:25:18 AM 1961 Views
there is no Song. None. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. Bupkis. damookster - 06/05/2010 04:22:38 AM 1276 Views
Spread the word Brother Mook! *NM* krassos - 06/05/2010 05:53:13 PM 530 Views
+1 *NM* Jim - 07/05/2010 05:41:20 AM 524 Views
There is a song, and maybe Rand will return it to them. FanEditor10 - 12/05/2010 07:31:32 AM 1093 Views
I don't feel like going into the Song nonsense again. As for the Tinkers/Jenn... krassos - 12/05/2010 11:51:34 PM 1254 Views
They DID fail the Aes Sedai; at least in their own eyes. FanEditor10 - 16/05/2010 04:59:38 AM 3768 Views
seriously? damookster - 17/05/2010 01:03:09 AM 983 Views
The Jenn didn't fail the Aes Sedai. krassos - 17/05/2010 04:06:47 PM 1046 Views
it seems more likely that the sin is giving up the Way of the Leaf Jim - 19/05/2010 11:14:38 PM 1164 Views
FYI, more likely to be Perrin, IMO newyorkersedai - 13/05/2010 02:06:49 AM 1277 Views
because Rand was the very first person ever to see that at Rhuidan? damookster - 13/05/2010 05:04:40 AM 1010 Views
I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM 1152 Views
Yeah, RJ said this even Etzel - 06/05/2010 11:54:23 AM 1180 Views
I thought RJ said something about the Ogier being from another planet? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:44:21 PM 1084 Views
This can be inferred from discussion of the Book of Translation *NM* Marshall - 10/05/2010 10:04:05 PM 550 Views
The song was "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. It was lost when the last ter'angreal Ipod broke. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:41:42 PM 1057 Views
LOL *NM* GateKeeper - 06/05/2010 05:37:32 PM 517 Views
Must be Mister Mister playing on the radio or stero *NM* echooff - 06/05/2010 08:12:36 PM 519 Views
According To The Big Book Of Bad Art ClubCaved - 07/05/2010 11:25:20 PM 2120 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art Gaidal Craig - 08/05/2010 08:29:39 PM 1050 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art File Leader - 09/05/2010 01:48:49 AM 1737 Views
Nonsense. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 04:10:30 AM 1005 Views
I think you just found the answer to the Last Battle... *NM* The Count - 09/05/2010 06:12:56 PM 556 Views
Elayne might be able to do it this way.... Mjolner - 10/05/2010 03:55:14 AM 1032 Views
--Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... Tweak - 08/05/2010 03:07:55 AM 1120 Views
Re: --Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... saidarisnowtainted - 10/05/2010 09:59:42 PM 1058 Views
How is there "No Song?" newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 12:44:22 AM 1112 Views
Re: How is there "No Song?" Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 01:38:36 AM 1197 Views
Oh, ok. But... newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 05:26:54 AM 984 Views
If we want to talk about flashbacks... damookster - 09/05/2010 05:22:34 PM 1046 Views
In addition: The Jenn Aiel had their own paradise construct. krassos - 09/05/2010 06:12:40 PM 1376 Views
I doubt it. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:38:39 PM 1104 Views
LTT asked it because he was bonkers newyorkersedai - 10/05/2010 05:22:06 AM 1048 Views
I agree. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 12:35:43 AM 1072 Views
That's not how his insanity was portrayed. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 02:23:08 AM 1037 Views
If it weren't a Seed Song, why're the Nym needed? if not needed why did they forget how to sing? Mjolner - 11/05/2010 04:48:12 AM 992 Views
From where did you get the idea that Nym were needed? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:11:15 AM 1023 Views
I got the part about the Nym from a sub thread in this post. One you commented on. Keep up man. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 05:42:14 AM 1073 Views
My only post in other subthreads is a joke response to File Leader, I think? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 06:52:22 AM 1087 Views
The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 01:41:10 PM 925 Views
Re: The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 07:49:02 PM 1039 Views
Thx for the support, Mjolnir, but I don't agree because newyorkersedai - 12/05/2010 04:17:52 AM 1052 Views
Re: I doubt it. BlackAdder - 11/05/2010 03:36:34 AM 1036 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:12:35 AM 976 Views
I agree RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/05/2010 02:55:54 PM 976 Views
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