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There is a song, and maybe Rand will return it to them. FanEditor10 Send a noteboard - 12/05/2010 07:31:32 AM
other than that minor detail....


oh, and from where comes the idea that Ogier are an artificial construct?


I don't believe that. I think the "song" the Tinkers are looking for is the song that Rand saw his ancestor Aiel singing when he went to Rhuidean. The Aiel, Nym, and Ogier were standing around a field singing the song. I think perhaps Rand will be the means by which the song is returned.

How did the Tinkers end up following the way of the leaf? They don't have Aiel coloring or build, and most of the Jenn Aiel still went to the Waste as "punishment" for failing the Aes Sedai.
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The Song--how it worked and why it was lost--OGIERS ARE NOT ARTIFICIAL saidarisnowtainted - 06/05/2010 03:25:18 AM 2281 Views
there is no Song. None. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. Bupkis. damookster - 06/05/2010 04:22:38 AM 1614 Views
Spread the word Brother Mook! *NM* krassos - 06/05/2010 05:53:13 PM 709 Views
+1 *NM* Jim - 07/05/2010 05:41:20 AM 683 Views
There is a song, and maybe Rand will return it to them. FanEditor10 - 12/05/2010 07:31:32 AM 1428 Views
I don't feel like going into the Song nonsense again. As for the Tinkers/Jenn... krassos - 12/05/2010 11:51:34 PM 1622 Views
They DID fail the Aes Sedai; at least in their own eyes. FanEditor10 - 16/05/2010 04:59:38 AM 4272 Views
seriously? damookster - 17/05/2010 01:03:09 AM 1298 Views
The Jenn didn't fail the Aes Sedai. krassos - 17/05/2010 04:06:47 PM 1355 Views
it seems more likely that the sin is giving up the Way of the Leaf Jim - 19/05/2010 11:14:38 PM 1557 Views
FYI, more likely to be Perrin, IMO newyorkersedai - 13/05/2010 02:06:49 AM 1591 Views
because Rand was the very first person ever to see that at Rhuidan? damookster - 13/05/2010 05:04:40 AM 1323 Views
I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM 1451 Views
Yeah, RJ said this even Etzel - 06/05/2010 11:54:23 AM 1511 Views
I thought RJ said something about the Ogier being from another planet? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:44:21 PM 1414 Views
This can be inferred from discussion of the Book of Translation *NM* Marshall - 10/05/2010 10:04:05 PM 726 Views
The song was "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. It was lost when the last ter'angreal Ipod broke. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:41:42 PM 1369 Views
LOL *NM* GateKeeper - 06/05/2010 05:37:32 PM 676 Views
Must be Mister Mister playing on the radio or stero *NM* echooff - 06/05/2010 08:12:36 PM 731 Views
According To The Big Book Of Bad Art ClubCaved - 07/05/2010 11:25:20 PM 2451 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art Gaidal Craig - 08/05/2010 08:29:39 PM 1366 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art File Leader - 09/05/2010 01:48:49 AM 2090 Views
Nonsense. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 04:10:30 AM 1343 Views
I think you just found the answer to the Last Battle... *NM* The Count - 09/05/2010 06:12:56 PM 727 Views
Elayne might be able to do it this way.... Mjolner - 10/05/2010 03:55:14 AM 1355 Views
--Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... Tweak - 08/05/2010 03:07:55 AM 1415 Views
Re: --Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... saidarisnowtainted - 10/05/2010 09:59:42 PM 1354 Views
How is there "No Song?" newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 12:44:22 AM 1460 Views
Re: How is there "No Song?" Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 01:38:36 AM 1553 Views
Oh, ok. But... newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 05:26:54 AM 1306 Views
If we want to talk about flashbacks... damookster - 09/05/2010 05:22:34 PM 1395 Views
In addition: The Jenn Aiel had their own paradise construct. krassos - 09/05/2010 06:12:40 PM 1722 Views
I doubt it. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:38:39 PM 1461 Views
LTT asked it because he was bonkers newyorkersedai - 10/05/2010 05:22:06 AM 1362 Views
I agree. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 12:35:43 AM 1431 Views
That's not how his insanity was portrayed. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 02:23:08 AM 1372 Views
If it weren't a Seed Song, why're the Nym needed? if not needed why did they forget how to sing? Mjolner - 11/05/2010 04:48:12 AM 1341 Views
From where did you get the idea that Nym were needed? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:11:15 AM 1361 Views
I got the part about the Nym from a sub thread in this post. One you commented on. Keep up man. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 05:42:14 AM 1425 Views
My only post in other subthreads is a joke response to File Leader, I think? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 06:52:22 AM 1437 Views
The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 01:41:10 PM 1279 Views
Re: The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 07:49:02 PM 1362 Views
Thx for the support, Mjolnir, but I don't agree because newyorkersedai - 12/05/2010 04:17:52 AM 1382 Views
Re: I doubt it. BlackAdder - 11/05/2010 03:36:34 AM 1376 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:12:35 AM 1276 Views
I agree RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/05/2010 02:55:54 PM 1348 Views
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