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There is a song, and maybe Rand will return it to them. FanEditor10 Send a noteboard - 12/05/2010 07:31:32 AM
other than that minor detail....


oh, and from where comes the idea that Ogier are an artificial construct?


I don't believe that. I think the "song" the Tinkers are looking for is the song that Rand saw his ancestor Aiel singing when he went to Rhuidean. The Aiel, Nym, and Ogier were standing around a field singing the song. I think perhaps Rand will be the means by which the song is returned.

How did the Tinkers end up following the way of the leaf? They don't have Aiel coloring or build, and most of the Jenn Aiel still went to the Waste as "punishment" for failing the Aes Sedai.
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The Song--how it worked and why it was lost--OGIERS ARE NOT ARTIFICIAL saidarisnowtainted - 06/05/2010 03:25:18 AM 1941 Views
there is no Song. None. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. Bupkis. damookster - 06/05/2010 04:22:38 AM 1262 Views
Spread the word Brother Mook! *NM* krassos - 06/05/2010 05:53:13 PM 524 Views
+1 *NM* Jim - 07/05/2010 05:41:20 AM 517 Views
There is a song, and maybe Rand will return it to them. FanEditor10 - 12/05/2010 07:31:32 AM 1077 Views
I don't feel like going into the Song nonsense again. As for the Tinkers/Jenn... krassos - 12/05/2010 11:51:34 PM 1238 Views
They DID fail the Aes Sedai; at least in their own eyes. FanEditor10 - 16/05/2010 04:59:38 AM 3745 Views
seriously? damookster - 17/05/2010 01:03:09 AM 970 Views
The Jenn didn't fail the Aes Sedai. krassos - 17/05/2010 04:06:47 PM 1032 Views
it seems more likely that the sin is giving up the Way of the Leaf Jim - 19/05/2010 11:14:38 PM 1146 Views
FYI, more likely to be Perrin, IMO newyorkersedai - 13/05/2010 02:06:49 AM 1259 Views
because Rand was the very first person ever to see that at Rhuidan? damookster - 13/05/2010 05:04:40 AM 996 Views
I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM 1135 Views
Yeah, RJ said this even Etzel - 06/05/2010 11:54:23 AM 1163 Views
I thought RJ said something about the Ogier being from another planet? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:44:21 PM 1070 Views
This can be inferred from discussion of the Book of Translation *NM* Marshall - 10/05/2010 10:04:05 PM 543 Views
The song was "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. It was lost when the last ter'angreal Ipod broke. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:41:42 PM 1042 Views
LOL *NM* GateKeeper - 06/05/2010 05:37:32 PM 511 Views
Must be Mister Mister playing on the radio or stero *NM* echooff - 06/05/2010 08:12:36 PM 512 Views
According To The Big Book Of Bad Art ClubCaved - 07/05/2010 11:25:20 PM 2103 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art Gaidal Craig - 08/05/2010 08:29:39 PM 1037 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art File Leader - 09/05/2010 01:48:49 AM 1721 Views
Nonsense. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 04:10:30 AM 992 Views
I think you just found the answer to the Last Battle... *NM* The Count - 09/05/2010 06:12:56 PM 547 Views
Elayne might be able to do it this way.... Mjolner - 10/05/2010 03:55:14 AM 1017 Views
--Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... Tweak - 08/05/2010 03:07:55 AM 1103 Views
Re: --Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... saidarisnowtainted - 10/05/2010 09:59:42 PM 1042 Views
How is there "No Song?" newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 12:44:22 AM 1097 Views
Re: How is there "No Song?" Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 01:38:36 AM 1177 Views
Oh, ok. But... newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 05:26:54 AM 970 Views
If we want to talk about flashbacks... damookster - 09/05/2010 05:22:34 PM 1029 Views
In addition: The Jenn Aiel had their own paradise construct. krassos - 09/05/2010 06:12:40 PM 1358 Views
I doubt it. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:38:39 PM 1087 Views
LTT asked it because he was bonkers newyorkersedai - 10/05/2010 05:22:06 AM 1030 Views
I agree. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 12:35:43 AM 1056 Views
That's not how his insanity was portrayed. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 02:23:08 AM 1020 Views
If it weren't a Seed Song, why're the Nym needed? if not needed why did they forget how to sing? Mjolner - 11/05/2010 04:48:12 AM 973 Views
From where did you get the idea that Nym were needed? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:11:15 AM 1007 Views
I got the part about the Nym from a sub thread in this post. One you commented on. Keep up man. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 05:42:14 AM 1060 Views
My only post in other subthreads is a joke response to File Leader, I think? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 06:52:22 AM 1070 Views
The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 01:41:10 PM 911 Views
Re: The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 07:49:02 PM 1021 Views
Thx for the support, Mjolnir, but I don't agree because newyorkersedai - 12/05/2010 04:17:52 AM 1036 Views
Re: I doubt it. BlackAdder - 11/05/2010 03:36:34 AM 1016 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:12:35 AM 961 Views
I agree RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/05/2010 02:55:54 PM 961 Views
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